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Posted: Jan 24 2007, 12:24 PM
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Hi

As long as your aren’t hurting anyone or any animal, anything goes.

Ive seen some stuff that upset me, especially using a loverley dog as a dildo. there are some people who will pay to see that and that’s there choice

If we all have respect for all creatures (even my x-husband) we could all enjoy sex in its many forms

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Posted: Jan 24 2007, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE (energydog @ Jan 24 2007, 09:22 AM)
You were/are THE Coyote? Wow, have you seen a final version of the film? Specific incidents aside, as a generalized movie about zoophilics/beasties how does the movie make our lifestyle appear?

Unfortunately, I have not even yet seen the final version of the film. At the end of the year, things came so fast. Around October, there was some final film to be shot, and I asked the director when he thought it would be completed. He said he would love to make Sundance with it, but said the current funding meant he expected another 9 months or so to work on it on or off, get final post production done, etc. Then Thinkfilms picked it up and threw in funding. A bit more film was shot at the end of november after that. I joked with the way the production was rushing, I could see him on the plane on the way to Utah still doing editing on his laptop and joked about it. He said that the idea was not funny - because it might be almost true.
I wanted and he promised to try to get a screening of it before Sundance, but it couldn't happen. The 11th of January I had to retake some audio ( some of what I said in an interview early in the last year got messed up) He sent me the audio guy to redo, since he was in the color lab doing color correction, as the cinematographer had to rush back east with a sick family member. So down to the wire it went.

I went into it with a great amount of trepidation, asked a lot of questions before I started to find out where it was going, if it was just going to be just another tabloid shocker headline, or any similar FUD generator. When i laid down the first audio interview, his questions were in line with truly wanting to just understand, and that put me at ease. Not completely, because anything can be edited and twisted, but as the year went on, I got a good vibe in the fact it was going to be ok. Its going to make non zoos think a lot - not all, you will still have those who dont care either way, but thats how it is in anything we do in life.

I still have a knot (no pun here, move along- heh) in my stomach on the finished film, but I think its going to be good.
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Posted: Jan 24 2007, 05:03 PM
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Even if we may find it to be a good film - as far as I know, hardly anyone knows the exact content of the film - people out there may/will react different. And how they will react, nobody knows. I have seeen some positive reviews of this film, and some not so positive. The not so positive all had religious aspects. One of the most funny was something like "On Sunday 21 while people were in chuchr, a film [.......] was shown ...(etc) Well, they did not show that film in the church, did they? ;)
Again, many feel able to udge about something they know next to nothing about, and I shall say no more, just look forward to see the movie.
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Posted: Jan 24 2007, 06:01 PM
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I have thought about this
have wrighten 3 posts and ran from them.
I fear for this comunity I have friends here.

The real world is a horrable plase
In it they choose what and how they want included within.
They through me out 30 + years ago and never knew me.
It was a game to them. I never looked back
I learned many things and the real world leaves me alown
Fair and balanced they are not and never will be.

Trust no one there, power is all they care about and will traid there very survival for it and gold.

In the real world you can not walk with out hurting something or some one. Kindness, love, caring is lost and you would be taken with it..
They will never stop hurting us or anything dispite the fact in the end they hurt them selves as much or more

I will be with my rocks
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Posted: Jan 24 2007, 08:11 PM
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this "A Real Man" guy is gay. Screamingly gay. I bet he goes to strip clubs and drunkenly fondles the women just to prove how awesome he is, then he goes hunting and shoots a deer and lifts the carcass for weight then goes home and watches the game in his log cabin with his manly ass friends, coon skin cap and trophy heads on the wall. Oh, and he drinks BUD cause he's JUST THAT MANLY
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Posted: Jan 25 2007, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE (rus80 @ Jan 24 2007, 11:01 AM)
I have thought about this
have wrighten 3 posts and ran from them.
I fear for this comunity I have friends here.

The real world is a horrable plase
In it they choose what and how they want included within.
They through me out 30 + years ago and never knew me.
It was a game to them. I never looked back
I learned many things and the real world leaves me alown
Fair and balanced they are not and never will be.

Trust no one there, power is all they care about and will traid there very survival for it and gold.

In the real world you can not walk with out hurting something or some one. Kindness, love, caring is lost and you would be taken with it..
They will never stop hurting us or anything dispite the fact in the end they hurt them selves as much or more

I will be with my rocks
Rus

Quite negitive, but he`s right... I can`t wait to see this video. I dont like the people that are posting over there, but I still want to see it. Maybe non-zoos will have a relevation, Most likely they wont. What do you think the chances are, guys?

Why aren't people posting here? You`d think I`d be a hot topic...
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Posted: Jan 25 2007, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE (HORSEPLEASURER @ Jan 25 2007, 12:09 AM)

Quite negitive, but he`s right... I can`t wait to see this video. I dont like the people that are posting over there, but I still want to see it. Maybe non-zoos will have a relevation, Most likely they wont. What do you think the chances are, guys?



I have to say, if people are already so dead set against it, the chances of them actually seeing it are virtually non-existent. I saw lots of negative posts against Brokeback Mountain in there (even though they are 2 completely different movies), and even though I personally have never seen it, I've heard it is hardly anything to be outraged by (and think of how many people refused to watch the movie based on subject matter alone).


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Posted: Jan 25 2007, 02:49 AM
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QUOTE (silverwolf768 @ Jan 24 2007, 07:32 PM)

I have to say, if people are already so dead set against it, the chances of them actually seeing it are virtually non-existent. I saw lots of negative posts against Brokeback Mountain in there (even though they are 2 completely different movies), and even though I personally have never seen it, I've heard it is hardly anything to be outraged by (and think of how many people refused to watch the movie based on subject matter alone).



Bah. After re-reading my response, it might sound like I have something against Brokeback Mountain, but its just that I have not seen it, and the only opportunity I would have to watch it would be when everyone (everyone being my family) is around, and I don't like to have to justify my actions to anybody if I feel I don't have to, so its a conversation I would like to avoid. I also haven't ruled out the fact that I might in fact be gay.

Sorry about the potential misunderstanding, I'm just trying to keep things clear before an issue could come up ( I also couldn't edit my message. I've seen "edit timers" on other forums, so that might be why). I'll be quiet now lol.
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Posted: Jan 25 2007, 03:41 AM
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Edit times out
Then Wild saves me..If that is possable

Back to my rocks

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Posted: Jan 25 2007, 04:13 AM
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Wow, I only read a few of those replies, pretty frightening but sometimes a bit funny in a way. What a parade of ignorance.

I've heard before, the sun-sentinel site comments area can get pretty wild, so it's sort of a magnet for that kind of activity anyway. Putting zoo into it is like throwing oil on the fire.


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edited to add, one reason for having an editing timeout is, so spammers can't post something harmless, then come back later and completely change the content of the post - adding links, etc.

This post has been edited by Barb Dyer on Jan 25 2007, 04:15 AM
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Posted: Jan 25 2007, 06:37 AM
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Some people are always going to moralize and they are welcome to keep their opinions to themselves. Likewise, I don't think sex is something to be broadcast from the top of the hill, hetro, homo or zoo... I think it's just poor taste and something left best to individuals.

However, there is always the public face to things and I do suspect that the media is taking more of a liking to zoophilia/bestiality as a topic, It'll be up to individuals to decide how they show themselves with this greater attention. This movie won't be the last of it all....
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Posted: Jan 25 2007, 07:04 AM
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After reading a couple pages of those replies, it seems that 90% of them are influenced by some kind of religious foundation. I think the real tragedy in this whole hub-bub is that this religious idealism is the foundation of the laws in this country...

How can you fight something that's backed up by God? Or someone who's spouting out rhetoric that is supposedly directly from God?

I think our hope lies in the fact that there is a very large silent majority out there. I think people might be coming around. Look at the "homosexual revolution" over the last decade. Particularly in the younger generations, there's a sense of total acceptance...or maybe, an inability to be surprised or disgusted. Acceptance might be pushing it. But it's kinda hard to be "weird" anymore. Especially in the sexual arena.

But I guess the solution is the same for everything: EDUCATION!
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Posted: Jan 25 2007, 08:37 AM
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well with me the more i here about it the more i want to see the movie . :D
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Posted: Jan 25 2007, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE (energydog @ Jan 23 2007, 01:04 PM)
**** I suggest everyone do a quick read of the review then scroll down a bit, just above the space for posting your own comments you'll see a link to read all the comments. Its these comments by zoos and non zoos alike that I found to be the most interesting. The now number over 1400 comments after only 2 days of the original article. I hope you find them enlightening as I did as to what we may expect from the general population to the revelation of zoophilia/bestiality.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/sou...mostemailedlink

Please post your comments on the site and post your reactions to those comments here. It should make for some interesting reading.

I went to the posted link, I did see the film review-but never saw the "comments" section you mentioned there. did their server get overloaded and they shut that part off??
I too, await to see how the whole production turned out.
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Posted: Jan 25 2007, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE (Cow_Poke @ Jan 24 2007, 11:53 PM)
QUOTE (energydog @ Jan 23 2007, 01:04 PM)
**** I suggest everyone do a quick read of the review then scroll down a bit, just above the space for posting your own comments you'll see a link to read all the comments.  Its these comments by zoos and non zoos alike that I found to be the most interesting.  The now number over 1400 comments after only 2 days of the original article.  I hope you find them enlightening as I did as to what we may expect from the general population to the revelation of zoophilia/bestiality.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/sou...mostemailedlink

Please post your comments on the site and post your reactions to those comments here.  It should make for some interesting reading.

I went to the posted link, I did see the film review-but never saw the "comments" section you mentioned there. did their server get overloaded and they shut that part off??
I too, await to see how the whole production turned out.
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Well, maybe something happened when you went to the page, but it is fine for me, here is a direct link. :wub:

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/south-fl...RUR9RV5OVVIVNEL
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