...no they haven't. Humans have the largest penis among primates by both absolute and relative size. In fact, by relative size humans have some of the largest penises among all mammals and animals.

Sex is pretty damn crucial element in a sexual relationship.

Sex is typically one of the key needs for any human being. It is very much critical in a monogamous sexual relationship. Penis size is not critical, because women typically simply aren't extremely selective over it even when it comes to sex. Human cock can't do what a dog cock can? Well a dog cock can't do what my fist or a power tool of a megadildo can. That is not what it's about. It's about psychology and context, not the physical nature of stimulation to genitalia.

If Brad isn't the object of Ann's sexual desires, then I guess her "love and respect" is shy a little bit something, isn't it? Something that most people would find imperative in this spot.

Will? Really?

Women (people) that prefer sex with a dog to sex with a human being even after eliminating the social stigma are rare.

No, it won't. It will only disturb a relationship that wasn't much of a relationship to begin with.

This post has been edited by Thaurunas on Oct 28 2009, 04:47 PM

^_^ Thanks Alice. I do not enjoy others speaking for myself when I am capable of doing so. I have experienced the pains that accompany having words attributed to myself that I never spoke. It is not a situation that should go uncorrected. :) :o :o
You seem to have really hit a nerve with Thaurunas. I look forward to more of with lively debate.

:wub: Enjoy your Halloween. It is truly a holiday for the wee ones. :kiss: :kiss:

Thaurunas ...
Human males do have the largest penises among the primates. Upright walking permits a man to dangle and not get tangled. A chimp or other ape has a problem with a swinging penis since they they travel with a different gait and also many spend time in trees. A large penis for other primates is a disadvantage. However, large testicles in chimps is a result of the promiscuous breeding of females. Similarly, large human penises correlate with societies of promiscuous breeding females and penis size is not an advantage in monogamous societies.

There are many dogs that have larger penises than humans while much smaller in body size. The sheath holds the dog penis close to his belly so it does not get in the way as he runs. You have seen the dangling penis of an unsheathed dog; impossible for him to chase his prey. Dogs also has an os bone that permits him to penetrate before erection. And, the dog has a knot when erect. Don't try to compete cock for cock with a dog.

Yes, one can be stimulated in many ways including toys and fists. Some would even consider a horse but that is not the argument.
A human can stimulate a woman quite differently from a dog. A human has a complex mind and can communicate in ways that a dog can never even conceive. Much of a woman's arousal is in her mind. A human can play with her mind as no dog ever could.

Also, a man has lips that can suck and fingers than can touch and probe as no dog can.

A relationship where sex is the primary element will fade and fail. There is significantly more to a relationship than sex. In fact as I have repeated many times love is not sex and sex is not love.
The relationship between a woman and her dog is very, very different from that with her husband or her lover. These relationships are not mutually exclusive unless the participants decide to make it exclusive.

Ann and Brad had to work their relationship with the addition of the dog. As you observed, most women will not want to lose her human lover just because she now has her dog. The relationship with a human, male or female, is much more complex than with a dog. The bond that holds Ann and Brad together while they work it out is love.

Perhaps you would have left Ann ... Brad did not. But don't impugn that Brad is a wimp because he tolerated the abuse by Ann while this is transpiring. His love for Ann kept him engaged as the adjustments and attitudes changed.

Thank you for the discussion. Interesting. A ten for you.
Always
Alice

Exactly my point.

A relationship where it is not a CRUCIAL element though, is not much of a relationship. It is not a relationship between a man and a woman then - but between a human and another human. Which is great too, but the two shouldn't be confused...

Thankfully, most women would never have this dilemma, because they have a sexual relationship with the man.

What I'm getting at was not what happened after introduction of the dog - it was what was going on before, made painfully apparent by the introduction of the dog. What was going on was that Ann was never sexually attracted to Brad. Sex twice a week and no blowjobs? Well... Before the dog you could have said she has a low sex drive. But not anymore. Turns out she has a sex drive that possibly even trumps most women - but Brad never got to see any of it. That is a little depressing to me.

Awww... :P I would respond with the same but I'm 96 posts short =(

This post has been edited by Thaurunas on Nov 8 2009, 12:39 AM

Alice, you are wonderful! I am in the process of catching up on your storys and they are so thoughtfully written! Please also continue with your wisdom and advise.
Intelligent women have always turned me on.
Messy :heart:

This post has been edited by messygirl on Nov 8 2009, 04:38 AM

Very well stated ALICE! I will give you a ten. You are always erudite and to the point.

always,

hoseboy

Bump!

Kind Readers
A quick update ... bumped into Ann ... not literally ... she has a little "bump" and is a few months along ... not a litter, silly, but from the ultrasound they believe that she is a girl ... sometimes a "girl" is born a bashful boy. But Ann does not share the K9 side of her life with me ... to her, I am one who is clueless to this life style, a straight prude ... but there is more to share that has been inadvertantly divulged to others.
Alice

Alice, I have read many of your stories and have loved all of them. However, I think this story is the best of them all.
I, personally would love to see my wife mounted by our dog. However, she won't even consider it, and, of course, I would never try to force her to. However, it does seem to me to be like you have touched on now and then and that is this: A man can do things a dog can't and a dog can do things a man can't. Therefore, it seems to me that for a woman to have both a male lover and a dog lover would be the very best of both worlds. A dog might f*ck faster, be a few degrees warmer body wise, cum more and longer, and have a longer, wider tongue for oral sex, but on the other hand, a man can suck a clit and a dog can't, a man has hands to use all over a woman like no dog can. And I won't even go into all the ways he can tell her of his love for her, her beauty, how he can take care of her when she is sick, depressed, etc. In short, I say again, it seems like that for a woman, a man and dog would be the best of both worlds. And yes, for sure it would depend on a mans outlook. Some men can handle it and some can't and for sure a male had best watch for what he wishes as it might come true. As for myself, I would love to watch my loving wife take our dog's cock deep inside her and watch her knotted and getting filled with his cum. And I don't think it would bother me at all---just make me all the hornier---because in the end, I know for a fact that I can do things to my wife that he can't.
Alice, thank you again for all your wonderful stories.