Lamentha,

The man who died had his colon ruptured. This is a real danger with large stallions and bulls. He was taken to the hospital by a friend and they traced the man back to the ranch from video of the car that dropped him off. The dead man had done that many times and there are many videos of him (Mr. Hands) floating around the internet. The Sheriff's report said there was no evidence of animal abuse, so they couldn't charge the other man. They therefore made a law that defines zoo sex as abuse so they can arrest the next person (which just happened apparently).

OZ

The whole idea of getting caught scares me. But I think I am relatively safe considering I have my own animals and I am careful about where I love them. My personal feeling is that I take the very best care of my animals that I can. They are well cared for, and are healthy both psychologically and physically. I never force myself on them, I have a deep love and respect for them, and they seem to enjoy the sensual contact as much as I do. I should be allowed to interract with them however I choose. Unfortunately the law doesn't see it that way.

We all try to be as carefull as we can and I know no one on the board that is active would never injure any one. Nor do we want to visit friends laid up injured. We all need to remember to try to restrict our partners to those we know and in a way to releave pressure not normally there if we have to.
It is not like there are classes in this so please those who are interested in larger animals ask and talk about it here.
There are some very well informed people here talk to them, ask what if, how.
Start slow by hand before exposing your self to mechanical injury. Know what your partners breeding habits are before you start. Remember they may be seasonal breeders, spring can be a turn on in its self.
lastly
A long Long time ago I helped out a dog in the early am in an alley. No one was up but us and a vidio camera I did not see. Hay we had a good time he got a hand job but I had to move.

Take care all
Rus

Has anyone else read Harper Lee's To Kill A Mockingbird? I can't help but think of it any time this kind of trial comes up.

As to the bloke in question on this occasion, he has two choices. (Assuming he wasnt actually cruel.) He can try and convince the jury the dog wasn't in danger of being harmed, and (on the unlikely chance he's successful) he could get off.

Or alternatively he could make the price as high as possible (in military terms) by counter charging his wife with being an accessory to animal cruelty. She did after all film him, rather than call the police or try to intervene.

Rona

Well counter charging the wife is useless. With regard to felony level cases, its not a matter who turned him once he's charged. Because the state is the complaintant after the alleged offender is charged. As in "State of Washington vs. John Doe" so, short of his wife saying the pictures are faked, and that she filed a false report, there is no way he's not going to court on this.

He can't be one of us... the pics the wife took aren't in the homemade section :whistling:

Just some advice (oddly enough coming from someone with NO zoo experience :rolleyes:)

Zoophilia is a private thing. But it's not something that should be kept too quiet. In other words, don't fear getting caught. The people who do either actually ABUSE their pets, didn't think properly, or in this case happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. And the people who are caught make up a SMALL percentage of the total zoophiles.
In other words, it's not like PETA's going to burst through your door, search your computer and take your pet in for questioning. Just be alert, and especially keep your pet and you safe during the process.

And yes, this is probably big news to the non-zoo people. Probably the first thought going through their mind is "That sick, twisted man". Which, really, the wife's much more twisted than he is. Calling the cops on your OWN husband without even talking to him? :angry:

Recently (I think the link was on here), an article ran about zoophiles, that said we "train our pets to passively accept sexual advances", and even said that we're the same people who "molest children and abuse the elderly"... why that wasn't an editorial is beyond me.

In short, love your pet with you heart and not your lust. Be safe, alert, and gentle. And above all, don't live in constant fear of getting caught. So far, the percentages are on our side :)

I do not think any one should be afraid
I am convinced we need to keep a low profile.
Life styles out side of blessed sex are by virtue of shear numbers condemed we do not need to be swepted into it.
No one will read our e or mail but to have some one find you is not good.
Your head goes up you will go down it is the way it is. The news will do the rest.
Rus

What kind of humans could do that to an animal, an old and blind one? :(


:censored: SOBs :angry:

Well cant say much till we find out how big the mare is or was
They may think some evil tied her up she ran and went over.
Vet could tell right away if he looked for it just not who. Our vets cary rape kits beleave it or not as they respond to criminal complaints.
Dont get paniced
They do not care about any kind owner. but if I could not shoot the fool I would be looking for evidence to track him.
I have never discused this life style with any of our vets but I have never had any of them say damaging things about zoo etc. I have spent a long time with them armpit deep in mares chatting about many things.
I have never used breeding hobbles eather they just do not do the job and are dangerous to everyone.

We must be quiet kind out of sight.
Best safest with our own animals
If I see this I would stop it If one of us knew about something like this abuse drop a 25 cent piece.
for every one this must be fought quietly and stoped.
Rus

Yes, but the point of counter-charging would not be to get off, but to make the wife pay a heavy price for what she did. It's like if an enemy is charging your position, and you know they'll kill you, even if you surrender. In that situation, the only thing you can do is take as many of them with you as possible.

This post has been edited by Rona on Oct 29 2006, 10:26 PM

Oz, you took the words right out of my mouth.

This story sounds like a breakup retaliation on her part. I think this may have been a mutual interest and that shows by the phone pictures that were taken. I think this goes to show why im a Zoo and dont trust a lot of human. Its sad :(

apologies for writing a topic of this same subject, moderators.

This makes..forces, even, zoophiles to believe that nearly no other human being may be trusted. I mean for the own wife to turn her man in..its just horrible and of much deceit.

From what I am hearing the "loving" woman owner {she hath not the kindness to be called the animal's guardian} took the pitbull in question to the local pound where she is being sentenced to death simply for being with a human and because the wife does not want the living being anymore {a poor excuse to have the dog culled}. The man suffers serious charges..possibly death {possibly}..the dog to be put to death.....I was not aware that we still lived in the time of the old testament in biblical times..

The dog's being put to death!!?? *head explodes* WTF? That makes absolutely no sense at all... That's like they're admitting that the dog is at fault just as much as the man is! If the dog's a pitiful, violated, innocent victum, why are they punishing her as well? Since when do they punish victums? That's incredibly hypocritical, and setting up the example that dogs -- pets even -- are disposable. "Oh, this was was tarnished, lets throw it away and get one that's sparkling new!".

*walks away to go continue rant to herself*

Are they afraid that it was a bad influence on the dog and now she'l, if not put to death, go out roaming the streets coercing men into having sex with her?

This post has been edited by Särx on Nov 2 2006, 01:09 AM

Well they found we and he love our animals.
There was a cat in CON ordered to be distroyed for atacking a neighbor. Bit her, she called the police.
My cat hunts me all the time not safe for her to go out. It is a great game play every night.
No one said people were nice best to keep away from them.
R