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Posted: Oct 5 2006, 05:47 AM
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QUOTE (energydog @ Oct 4 2006, 03:35 PM)
He sounds just like one of those people who's been essentially "brainwashed" into believeing sex of any kind, especially "out of the wedlock" kind, is evil.

You couldn't be further from the truth. I don't believe in God. I've never read the bible, never went to mass, and never prayed. I don't care about what 'god' thinks. f*** god, he can think whatever he wants. I've had threesomes, foursomes and gay sex. I've sucked a guys cock and had a dick up my arse. I don't care about sex before wedlock.

I wish I never said the word 'guilty' in my first post. You guys keep responded to me feeling guilty. I felt disgusted, dirty, sick and perverted. I only felt guilty for the dog. I used him. That's why I felt guilty.

Afterwards I took a step back and thought 'what the hell did I just do?? It's a dog for fucks sake'. A hairy, dirty, ass sniffing, ass licking (I mean his own ass) dog.
When I got home from my brothers house the first thing I did was take a shower.

With all the stuff I've done in my life sexwise this is the act I'm most ashamed of.
Having a guy cum up me arse and mouth was no problem. I felt grand afterwards, but this is something I promised never to do again... yet I still want to do it again and I probably will when the opperatunity presents itself. Next time I'll probably succeed in getting the dog to mount me and afterwards I'll feel sick and disgusting again. But it's something I can't resist doing. like a moth to a flame. I know I shouldn't but I just can't resist.
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Posted: Oct 5 2006, 06:06 AM
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QUOTE (Down Boy @ Oct 1 2006, 05:20 AM)


Granted, everyone has different views when it comes to sex with animals.
And I fully understand that people do it out of love for their pet, but millions of people around the world love their pet but would still never have sex with it.
There are ways to show your pet that you love it without pulling your pants down.
A part of me thinks that people say 'I have sex with my pet because I love it' purely as an excuse. Something they keep telling themselves everytime the do it to make them feel less guilty.
Yet again I don't mean to offend with that statement.

After reading all posts here so far it is clear to me that most of you have a much different mentality on the subject then I do. You do indeed do it out of love for your animal and not just a way to satisfy your needs. Whereas I did it purely to give it a try, see what it's like and also because I was horny as f***. I didn't love the dogs.

A previous poster above compared animal sex to being gay. Yes, 20 years ago a gay guy would be beaten to a pulp if anyone knew he was gay whereas today it's a lot more accepted. Will sex with animals be accepted in 20 years time? I have my doubts. Simply because 2 gay guys acknowledge that they are gay, they both give eachother consent to do whatever they do in bed.
However a dog does'nt give you his consent. He does'nt tell you to take out your cock so he can lick it. That is the reason why Animalsex will be frowned upon for a long time.

Anyway, I'm going of topic. So it looks like I'm the only one that does be ashamed of my secret. Wow, that opened my eyes quite a bit.

As mentioned already, I am not trying to offend anyone. I had animal sex too so we are all in the same boat. This is just a normal chat between people with a similar interest.

down if your stll watching this thread please take heart

do you think most of us wauted till we were in love with a dogor other animal to have our frist sexual exp))??

not me at frist it was a way to get off and rub my itch so to speak so thats no different than what you state you have done ot this point, i dint even think if it had bee with a girl etc you could say your frist times are/were for love its about hormones and lust))

so dont think just cause these frist time are lacking in emontion that it wont ever come.
nor would i be concerned that these frist times are for lust only. as long as no one is hurt or harmed))

plese read between the line and understand this inst a endorsment for abuse, it is however a path you may travel for awhile and tyou start any thing by frist steps, will htis lead to a lifetimeof zoo type relationships ??

thats up to you and life or your feelings about it

till then do no harm and enjoy each experince


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Posted: Oct 5 2006, 06:57 PM
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Hey down boy,I agree with what HairBear58 noted in his last post. Read between the lines and understand that what you have said is something that with many has also been a "concern". However,as noted the choice is yours to make to either explore these feeling further or to put them aside and take another path.
Good luck :)
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Posted: Oct 7 2006, 05:47 AM
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Yes I've experienced some shame and guilt over my k9 activities. However this only happened at certain times. When I allowed my friends Dalmation I took in dictate where and when we had sex. Or after I let him lick me for how ever long he wished.

He was always trying to initate a sexual encounter. It was only when I gave into his persistent and often aggressive demands that I felt guilt or shame afterwards. Granted these feelings didn't last long. I actually liked being dominated like that. :wacko: Although I'd definately never let a man treat me like that. ;)

He often picked the worsed times to lick me. Several times I let him lick me while my kids were alone in another room calling for me for some reasom or another. I didn't like lying to them about how I was doing something very important and making them wait until he was done.

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Posted: Oct 7 2006, 09:44 AM
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Actually, yes. The first time I had sex with a horse I was ashamed. But not for any moral reason. I felt ashamed because I didnt get off... An hour and a half of bhanging a horse and I barely felt shit... Guess I shouldnt have taken so many loritabs before I did it...
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Posted: Oct 7 2006, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE (energydog @ Oct 4 2006, 03:35 PM)
Well with regard to DownBoy's original post, I think his guilt has less to do with the type of sexuality he's experimenting with, and more to do with the circumstances its occuring under.  He sounds just like one of those people who's been essentially "brainwashed" into believeing sex of any kind, especially "out of the wedlock" kind, is evil.  Unfortunately, especially in america, this kind of poor or abysmal sexual socialization of our children is all too rampant.  So much so, you very regularly see this kind of feeling surfacing in all the gamuts of sexual orientation.  I myself have learned not to be ashamed of my own orientations.  Despite the fact I keep it private it is more of a bow toward the practical needs not to be attacked by others who can't learn to cope with a lifestyle different than their own.  Hopefully, DownBoy can learn to come to grips with his own sexuality, and not let his own nature hold back his own personal happiness in life.

Regarding Down Boy beeng "...just like one of those people who's been essentially "brainwashed" into believeing sex of any kind, especially "out of the wedlock" kind, is evil..., I wouldn't call it "brainwashed". English is not my natove language, but I'd choose "influenced by the society". As much as we may not like it, we all are influenced by the general altitude of the society towards the "different" ppl. Once we comprehend that WE are these "different" ppl, we then look upon our selves differently.

It'll sounds like a cliche but I'll give again as example the homosexuality. 25-30 y. ago nobody spoke oppenly about it, even less confessed abot it. And I can imagine quite well what a shock it was for someone to understand that he/she was atracted to same sex - I was in shock myself and I honestly believed then that I was the only one....well, me and my first lady at that time. It took me quite a while to comprehend that I may be a bit different from the majority of ppl. around and yet I had nothing to feel ashamed or guilty about it. Today is a different story all together - most of the younger ppl don't feel ashamed/guilty at all to indicate/confess their sexual prefferences once they know u well enough. Again - the general altitude of the society/medias helped them to overcome that fear of beeng different.

In time probably the same will happen with the zoophily, just nobody knows how long it'll take - 20...30...50 years? The good thing is that in today's modern world we can access info from the net, to comunicate tru Inet as oposed to face to face comunications years ago...to learn tru the net that we're not the only one "like that" and it makes thing much easier to comprehend our situation. That I know from my personal expirience as well. :)

Even though I knew about bestiality it always seemed to me like a branch of commercial porno and never gave it much thought unlesss...one day I was licked by a dog, by a pure chance. Well, it was much different, in quality and in quantity than everything else I've experienced till then and yet it was new and strange. Thanks to the net I looked around, got some info, "met" some girls and one of them (dear Jenny, if u read this have my eternal thanks for your help :wub: ) was so patient to explain lots of things and encourage me to go all the way into this brave new world.

Could that've happened 25 y. ago, without the net? I'd never know...probably yes but deffinitely not that easy, at least not for me... :)





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Posted: Nov 29 2006, 04:32 AM
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I had some guilt feelings my first time. I was asleep on the couch, nude, when I was awakened by a wet tongue licking me. It was my Golden Retriever and it felt so good I let him continue licking causing me to become soo hard I thought I'd split. My cock was throbbing and I had to have more so I gently held his head and slowly started pumping into his mouth. He didn't pull away, but started licking my balls as I continued til I unloaded down his throat. He then licked me til I was clean. After that he was always wanting more. I have to admit it was a great sensation. I then returned the favor by jacking him off til he unloaded...what a mess, but fun time.
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Posted: Nov 29 2006, 09:28 PM
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Hi,

I just want to say that for me it is much more than sex. I am an exclusive female dog zoo. My lover, a female german shepard, she is my wife, my other half, my soul mate. When we make love it is like we join together as one soul. It is not just the sex i'm in love with, i truely and very deeply love "her" After we make love we often cuddle, and just hold eachother and just enjoy eachother's loveing embrace, after she does her little "orgasmic dance" lol.

I'm sure there are alot of us here who feel this way about our animal partners.

So i'd have to say, no i don't feel ashamed or guilty in any one bit after or during. but yes unfortunatly i have to keep it a secret, but that is a price we pay for our love.


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Posted: Nov 30 2006, 01:23 AM
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Well this thred took off with out me for a wile..

There are as many reasons for being here as people in the forum.
Actually I found people tought me to stay away. The kids in school tought me to hate them long ago. It was later I learned to stop the teasing, I never tease back but someone who thinks messing with me is fun learns what hate and discontent realy is. I have no problem making an example out of anyone and happly have.

I had no problem being around animals at all, they always take you for what you are, I am friendly to them they are always willing to give me kindness back..

If you take the time to realy know how the animal lives you will learn how to "talk" to it. And it can ask you to play, cuddle, or have sex with it.. and the reverse you can ask. I have lived like this for years and I have been turned down to I'll add.

Dogs wander if let out and they are happy to have sex with who they meet. So I would not wory about one time consenting stands ..

I love all my animals, I am very close with them. I lay down with my studs and they are my sole and heart.. I am not sexual with them, it would change the relationship in directions where I do not want it to go.

I sleep with my dogs we do all things togeather as they are part of me as well..

You I think are not at peace with your self.
Everything happens for a reason
There are no coincidences.
I am not religious but there is a balance to it..

I would get to know an animal socially, you need a friend.
Sex comes through mutual trust and commitment you cant rush it..

Sarx [ I would not even try to find those dots I cant find letters]
I love your posts as always thanks.

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Posted: Nov 30 2006, 06:15 AM
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My belief regarding sex is that the only thing that can determine wether sex is good or bad is the element of consent. That said, unless the human involved is blatantly taking the animal by force, it doesn't bother me.

Of course, bestiality comes with the possibly of 10+ years of jail time, and I live in a state renowned for being liberal. So while I myself am unashamed of my interests, the risk is still far too great for me to ever think of practicing it.

On one hand, it doesn't sound like you forced them to do anything -- you just took your pants off and they did the rest. On the other hand, good and bad are all relative, so if you feel it's wrong, that should be all that matters as far as your own actions are concerned. But back on that first hand, it might not be you that's telling yourself you're dirty, perverted. etc. You might be subconsciously telling yourself what others would say.

In short, use your own judgement. You know the situation better than any of us ever could.
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Posted: Nov 30 2006, 09:20 AM
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I'm glad somebody brought this up. Let me first give my disclaimer. I certainly mean no disrespect or judgment. I have to laugh at myself sometimes when I get turned on to sex with a dog, yet think someone having sex with a fish, bird, goat, horse, etc. is totally perverted.

I have always been a sexual person. sex was sex, man or woman. I can remember even before I knew what sex was being turned on my being caught naked by the grandmotherly lady I used to spend summers with as a small child. I get incredibly turned on by "dirty" sex and sex that is "humiliating" or demeaning. I know it would take a whole round the clock shift of vieneese (sp?) psychiatrists to figure me out. One thing that bothers me is that I can spend (waste?) so much time looking for partners, emailers, etc. and probably ignore or certainly not give as much time to as I should to legitimate relationships, such as my kids, my job, etc. At one time I used to do chemicals (speed) and soak up "dirty" porno for days at a time with a partner. I no longer do drugs, but I do believe that sometimes I use this outlet to "hide" or at least find release from the pressures of life. I can spend hours on the internet surfing, jack off at the end of the night, and almost immediately kick myself in the butt for "wasting" so much of my life, only to be back at it again the next day. Right now I don't have a relationship with a significant other, and am somewhat lonely.

And, it's not only because I'm lonely. Sometimes, when I get into a legitimate relationship with a woman, I feel like suggesting that to her, only to think later, "what the hell was I thinking". I consider myself a spiritual person on a spiritual path, and sometimes pray/wish/hope that this one aspect of my life could be "corrected", that it's the last aspect of the changes I have made in my life that I just can't seem to surmount. I'm sure there is the aspect that the reason I like it so much is because it is so taboo. But, damn, there is just not a sight or story hotter than some reluctant, young (I don't mean kids, but someone like I was --teenaged and discovering my sexuality) girl or boy who let their hormones get them carried away and they end up getting forced/seduced into being taken by a male dog who only cares about satisfying his raw needs. Of course, it's only good when they end up getting incrediby turned on, and to their sexual embarrassment, have a tremendous cum. I'm certainly not talking about pain or rape, but that sexual pain and that combination of force/seduction that takes one to unbelievable ecstasy.

Of course, our experiences are supposed to be post 18 years old, but I would bet that many on here had their first significant sexual experiences, even with a dog, prior to their 18th birthday. In fact, it was probably because we were so young that it played such a major role in shaping our later experiences.

My only other major sexual turn on is being forced into sex by a black or other dominant man and while I am servicing him, he (or my gf) see my hard on and realize that against my will I am really enjoying it. Or having my girlfriend seduced/forced into sex with a bm or large dog and then cumming against her will, (again, she gets carried away with her sexuality into a humiliating, embarrassing situation). But, I guess that is a subject for another forum and perhaps another round of psychiatrists.

Anyway, thanks for letting me share. I needed that. I am still trolling beast date, beast forum, and enjoying every minute. I just hope that I am "cured" one day or that I find a woman to share these things with. That certainly is the great thing about this website, that we can hopefully connect in a real way with others like us and get on with our lives, that we can find a relationship that helps us put this in a "proper" perspective, that doesn't control or dominate our lives, but gives us an outlet and allows us to give this aspect of our lives a place and gives us the opportunity to share with like minded people. Once we see how "normal" these urges are by connecting with others, perhaps those of us with "guilty" feelings can see ourselves in a better light.
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Posted: Nov 30 2006, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE (silkythighs @ Oct 7 2006, 05:47 AM)
Yes I've experienced some shame and guilt over my k9 activities. However this only happened at certain times. When I allowed my friends Dalmation I took in dictate where and when we had sex. Or after I let him lick me for how ever long he wished.

He was always trying to initate a sexual encounter. It was only when I gave into his persistent and often aggressive demands that I felt guilt or shame afterwards. Granted these feelings didn't last long. I actually liked being dominated like that. :wacko: Although I'd definately never let a man treat me like that. ;)

He often picked the worsed times to lick me. Several times I let him lick me while my kids were alone in another room calling for me for some reasom or another. I didn't like lying to them about how I was doing something very important and making them wait until he was done.

:w00t: That sounded hot silkythighs!! :blush: hehe!

I was introduced to a zoo encounter initiated by a bitch and she started to lick me and I had noo problem with this! ;) Ive been a furrie for for most of my life, just takes time to work out who and what you are......but then I dont considder myself as anything particular.....I enjoy doing things that make my biological and mental functions go bonkers......I have never felt guilty or ashamed. Why do that to yourself?

I cant immagine a great dane feeling ashamed that he shoved his huge k9 sausage in a human....That is one huge reason I find the animal world so exciting because they dont sit there and think....omg what have I done!? No, if all paticipates, human and animals treat each other with tender love n care and the love making was good for BOTH then this is good!

If anything feels wrong on either or both sides then stop, dont do it again......I tried mating with my Dalmation but I wasnt comfortable trying to penertrate her, she looked at me as if saying 'well? come on then!' :lol: but to be honest Id rather try a pony ;) Something bigger, rounder......ooh yes! :lol:

This is a good thread which gives many constructive veiw points.....after all were all individually different so there! :lol:

Thanks yall!
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Posted: Nov 30 2006, 11:19 PM
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I never feel ashamed either. I know what I'm doing, and I feel it's right. I'm not really interested in what a general public thinks about a situation they can't grasp. I feel more ashamed about choosing a cheeseburger over an apple for lunch.

I'll add I'm not ashamed of who I associate with either, whether in the general world of animals or zoo. I hang out with people I believe are morally straight; and that will always include people that fuss over and bond with thier animals. Just who I am.

Now, I really do feel ashamed that I don't do enough for my pets and friends sometimes. And that I don't eat right or get nearly enough exercise.
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Posted: Dec 2 2006, 07:31 PM
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Hello everyone,

true, shame is a very delicate topic in the context of this forum's topic - so my answer will also just reflect my views on this point. It really shouldn't be taken as anything else. As brickly said, we're all individually different ;)

Shame after the act; I must admit that I have experienced that too. That is to say, during my earlier experiments; even though I knew that I did not invent this particular field of interest, nevertheless I felt very lonesome and strange.

Why was that? I had no one to talk to, and the common opinion is obviously negative. I guess I would not be too far from the truth if I assumed that zoophilia is still largely viewn as a kind of mental disease - abnormal in the least. I mean, be honest; who could you name that would swallow this topic lightly?

So, one way to get over the shame for me was to ask myself where I stood, so to speak - to find my own set of right and wrong in this matter. I chose admitting to that one part of myself that was not really going to be a wow at parties, yet without losing sight of right and wrong - but thats another topic.

The other way to see the needlessness of shame was finding other people with similar experiences and interests (for example his place - thanks a lot people :D). Being able to talk about it and seeing that one is not alone, thats it; after all, its rather hard to be an outcast hermit with ~ 600 people online.

All in all, I'd say theres no need to be ashamed if my doing does not hurt any being, human or any other animal.

*Phew* Delicate topic and rather long answer. And hopefully not the last one...


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Posted: Dec 2 2006, 09:16 PM
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I feel absolutely no guilt or shame before, during or after , I have sex with my animals.
My heifers like it, I like it. I also like looking after them, keeping them clean, keeping them well fed, plenty of clean water to drink and recognizing them as good friends. Because they see me as a good friend, I never have to pressure them to have sex, they are always willimg.
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