I know exactly what hes talking about, I experience the same thing.

When you're really horny, some things just get you going but after you cum, its like, my god I can't believe I just did something so perverted just to have an orgasm.

I can understand to an extent. I think it is probably cuz the dogs were your brothers and not yours.

I used to walk dogs in my neighborhood, and a walked this huge male akita (a real gentle giant) for an elderly couple across the street. one day he accidently knocked the lady over, and she broke her arm. they were gonna take him to the pound, but i took him in for a few weeks till i could get him a home. one night i decided to feel him up, and he loved it. the next few weeks were great, we did everything. then some people came and picked him up.
However, recently my neighbors male lab would come over to play with my dogs, and whenever i tried to do something with him, it resulted the same way Down Boy's did: he loved to lick me, but would not mount me. after i got off, i felt ashamed.

Like i said, since it was not your dog, thats probably why. And everyone on this forum who said they were not ashamed all seemed to be experienced with their own pets. Its like sleeping with your best friends lover: you'll feel bad later (probably).

This post has been edited by psychodan on Oct 1 2006, 10:59 AM

Feeling shame - well there was a time when I thought I would be the only one with such a preference.
The medias, when they cover the subject, does normally not do it in the favour of the case.
If the Internet had not been there, I would have felt even more ashamed. Now, it is there, and I met several people with same passion, and have met a few of them live. The great disadvantage with internet is that mos live so far away...
Well, Ive met olot of folks, lve and online, and they happen to be just normal people behind their nicks, just that we share that passion. And that our passion is OK as long as we act responsible, and in cases of doubt, do not let our passion drag us into something wrong or dangerous.

Things developed, other things happened like horses being damaged and zophiles accused for it. I found that this made me angry, and I reacted to it. That caused a spinoff where I had to take a step out of the shadow, not that I am "out" but i have made my opinion clear, buth under nick, and under real name. Strange enought, Ive not been beaten for that so far.

If yo ask me today, I feel proud of being what I am. I would certainly not have given you that answer 15 years ago.

Will we be accepted in 20 years? Or baned down in the same pot where [CENSOR]'s go?
Some of it is in our hands. There are things we must do and stop doing.
The rest is up to the world biggest random machine called politics. They don't want us to talk politics here, so no more words on that.

One thing I know for sure is, if I am still alive in 20 years, I will still be a zoophile.

As much as I wish that was the case I know it's not. It's not so much that I felt guilty afterwards. It's more the fact that I felt dirty, sick, perverted and disgusting.

Whether it ws my brothers dog or my dog I would've felt just as bad afterwards.
I probably would've felt less disgusted if I let his wife lick my cock. It was just the fact that it was a dog that kinda creeped me out. The licking of my cock was fine that didn't disgust me at all, but when I got down on all fours trying to entice him inside me, that's what really gave me a reality check afterwards.

I've always fantasized about Beastiality. Ever since I was young I always imagined a dog taking me up the ass or licking my cock.
Even to this day I still dream about those things. But after getting a taste of what it's like and being disgusted about it afterwards I'm starting to doubt my fantasies.

probly the main reason you feel guilty is that the bible thumpers have beat it in to you that its wrong....if you both ejoyed it and no one was hurt why be ashamed.....the dog aint. :inlove:
Just because i dont mention this topic to people in real life does not mean i am ashamed, i'm not.
:unsure: Wasn't long ago gays and lesbians were socialy unacceptable :unsure:
still are in some places. :ph34r:
and if your a gay zoo OMFG gay :bad bad user: :diablo:

:puppykiss: I see no reason for you to feel guilty, but that is for you to decide...just don't let..others or religion...decide it for you :puppykiss:

I think Cohort, Särx and Wispwolf summed my feelings up really well. My love and attraction for animals has always felt natural and right. I don't understand what there is to feel ashamed about? Sharing intimate moments with someone else, when both involved enjoys it and no one gets any harm? Nothing to be ashamed about if you ask me.

I am bothered by the fact that I have to fake, and pretend that I find humans attractive, when I am in the company of my co-workers. If I am standing talking to a few of my co-workers and a girl that they find good-looking is walking past, and they comment on her, I feel forced to pretend to find her good-looking as well.

It's not shame, more of a kind of precaution. Since my co-workers aren't even accepting of homosexuality, I cannot even begin to think of how they would react if they found out I am not attracted to humans at all.

Being forced to fake, having to pretend to be something I am not, bothers me deeply, but it is not the same as being ashamed. This is why I used to come out to my friends that were close to me, so that I wouldn't have to constantly tell lies to my best friends.

Coming out to my current co-workers? No way! That does not mean that I am ashamed - just that some people are difficult to be honest to.

I just wanted to comment on this...

There are more then one kinds of love. Sure there are lots of pet owners out there who "love" their animals, but then again, the average pet owner treats their animals as innocent children. This is why they are so appalled by the mere prospect of sex with animals.

The love that I, and I'm sure, many zoos feel for their animal lovers, is a sexual attraction and partnership, the sort of love that you'd have for your husband or wife, not for your child. So even though there are other ways of showing a loved one your fondness, sex is still something natural in that sort of relationship. It is by no means an "excuse", it is a true and valid claim.

And just to make one more clerification, we don't view all animals with that love, I have had animals that I viewed as partners (lovers), and others that I would never think of in a sexual way, ones I treated as a close friend or sibling.

Can't say I'm ashamed, but there have been times in the past why I've wondered why I am this way. I think that's going to happen when your involved in any non-traditional aspect of life. Society puts so much pressure on you to fit into the mold that it's hard to break away from that without asking some questions about yourself.

No shame here, But than only the people on here and one friend know about it. I can't even begine to tell you the mixed feelings i had after my dog mounted me the first time. It hurt, but felt good, i was scared to death, but calm, happy and sad all at the same time. Now that I am older I understand them more and have decided to move on, will I tell other people, I just might. I have hinted to a few but thats about all. But being bi might help my out look on things, when a girl walks by I can nudge my one friend and joke about her nice pooper (yes we really call there butts poopers because it makes everone around us laugh) And my few friends that know i like the company of guys don't really seem to care that i am bi. As for the zoo part its not hard to keep it secret, because I don't make hints or sugestion that i am a zoo. ^_^

Seems we all are, to a certain point, "victims" of the of the rules imposed on us from the society we grew in. Sometimes we accept those rules (like "don't pick up your nose, at least not in public") , sometimes we don't (like "don't touch yourself down there") and then suffer subconciously but live with our private "sin". :(

Same goes with one's sexual prefferences. Yes, now the general altutude towards homosexuality in most modern&civilized countries seems to be different from what it was 20-30 y ago, but is it REALY so? Let's face it - most ppl today don't aprove "gaii bashing" (misspelling intentionaly), but secretly pray - "Dear god, let my son/doughter be like them". In my poor english it doesn't mean acceptance, it means a self inforced tolerance mixed with hipocracy.


You pointed correctly as a reason why most ppl will frown (or much worse) on sex with animals and it probably will not be soon accepted as it happened with homosexuality: " Simply because 2 gaii guys acknowledge that they are gaii, they both give eachother consent to do whatever they do in bed.
However a dog does'nt give you his consent. He does'nt tell you to take out your cock so he can lick it. That is the reason why Animalsex will be frowned upon for a long time.".

However you (and most ppl) miss a point - a (male) dog DOES give you his consent for sex in his own way, be it humping your leg, or trying to lick you "down there", or even trying to mount you. Mind you, I'm talking about completly unknown, "virgin" dogs, not someone's partners. Now I ask - isn't that a consent or is it. And why if a dog wants it, AND I want it, I should feel guilty or ashamed? Just becouse the hypocritic society around me does not accept that? Or becouse nobody from the authorities defined by law what is a "consenting age" for a dog, as they did for minors from the human species?

Well, it seems we'll continue live "in sin" for a long time to come and be the outcasts of the society around us. For the time beeng let's hope that we'll succeed to get by unharmed, more or less.

Seems I did a mistake in my post and can't correct it. The secret pray that I mentioned should be reading "Dear god, let my son/doughter NOT be like them" (meaning homosexuals).

:( Sorry. :(

Well with regard to DownBoy's original post, I think his guilt has less to do with the type of sexuality he's experimenting with, and more to do with the circumstances its occuring under. He sounds just like one of those people who's been essentially "brainwashed" into believeing sex of any kind, especially "out of the wedlock" kind, is evil. Unfortunately, especially in america, this kind of poor or abysmal sexual socialization of our children is all too rampant. So much so, you very regularly see this kind of feeling surfacing in all the gamuts of sexual orientation. I myself have learned not to be ashamed of my own orientations. Despite the fact I keep it private it is more of a bow toward the practical needs not to be attacked by others who can't learn to cope with a lifestyle different than their own. Hopefully, DownBoy can learn to come to grips with his own sexuality, and not let his own nature hold back his own personal happiness in life.

"Ashamed"? No, I agree with manyof the others who have answered this quetions. I can say that at one point,before finding like minded people as are here on this forum,I did feel out of place,but no longer. :)

ive also had this feeling, and i hate it with all my guts and glory. it makes me feel like a bad person but later im back at it again, back in the ring for another self torture round! i guess i just shrug it off and tell myself that this is who i am and i will not be alterd by such false feelings of after love shame. and that raps up my personal way of dealing with the hauntiing feeling

I sometimes feel ashamed about it but then I'm submissive and thats kinda the turn on for me!