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:friends: - hey, watch where you're putting your hands!

At least your stud would pick mares over the other
One of mine wont
Where larg horse breeding operations run studs as a herd they will make friendships and mount there buddy.
This works because the mares are at a different ranch. Horses can smell as good as a GSD and there noze will smell girls miles away.

When the US had large ranches they would bring the diferent horse bands in for the winter cutting the studs into a herd of there own alawing the mares to foal. As they started to show spring totostrone the boys were cut back out of there winter herd and back to there summer range picking up there mares for the year.

In the social structure that is left [small farms or people with 2 stallions which in the world of AI is keeping them to feed and care for as nobody breeds live service any more. My wife reminds me of this pluss the extra work the balls mean every day] studs will fight very violently with an exception here or there. There death being possable the sad result of a unlocked gate or downed fence. Some one droping buy and getting pushed over after opening there stall to pat one and he leaving.

Rus

I quote from the January 07, 2007 Sunday Times which I found at the URL provided at the bottom of the article:

In the 21st century, we have decoded human DNA, we can examine the stars of distant galaxies and we have even begun to unlock the myriad mechanisms inside the human brain, but of one universally natural phenomenon we still know virtually nothing. That phenomenon is homosexuality.

When I was a teenager trying to find out how or why I turned out gay, there were very few reference books to help me. The phenomenon itself had been scientifically documented by the American social scientist Alfred Kinsey — but he proffered no explanation of its origins. It had befuddled Freud.

The scientific consensus had been laid out in the Wolfenden report in 1957, which solemnly concluded that homosexuality was “compatible with full mental health”. But the tantalising questions endured. Are people born gay? Is it genetic? Is it related to hormonal variations in the womb during pregnancy? Could it be affected by early childhood environment? Or is it a function of some other unknown factor?

We still don’t know. All we know is that it appears to be fixed by about the age of three. This lack of precision is partly due to the complexity of the phenomenon. Who knows whether sexual orientation isn’t multi-determined by any number of genetic, environmental or hormonal factors?

But our ignorance is also due to ideology. Neither the right nor the left has really wanted to know. Anti-gay social conservatives have long been uninterested in research that might prove the genetic basis of homosexuality — because it would “normalise” it. And the post-modern left insists that sexual orientation is socially constructed, and so scientific research is irrelevant. This politically correct right-left pincer has essentially slowed research on homosexuality to a crawl. Even now, a gay teen has barely more knowledge than I did 25 years ago.

Yes, there are some recently uncovered, tantalising genetic clues, gleaned more from the maternal DNA lineage than the paternal one. There are studies pointing to clear differences between homosexual and heterosexual hypothalamuses in the brain.

There’s a huge new volume of data about animal homosexuality, revealing it to be ubiquitous and complex. And as more and more gay people have emerged into the sunlight of public life, the range of their own stories has added to our collective understanding of what being gay, in all its varieties, can mean.

The trouble is: whenever science gets closer to figuring out the puzzle, politics intervenes. And so last week, Martina Navratilova and the usual suspects protested against new research on gay sheep being conducted at Oregon State University.

The researchers have been adjusting various hormones in the brains of gay rams to try to see if they can get them to be interested in the opposite sex. The indifference of many rams to otherwise attractive and fertile ewes is a drag on sheep-breeding, it seems. We don’t have any peer-reviewed studies yet, but reports of success in manipulating the sexual behaviour of some rams have led to an outcry.

The gay rams have a right to be what they are, Navratilova complains. She may be a little defensive about the breeding of farm animals — but you can see her broader worry. If you can figure out how to flip the gay switch off in sheep, how long will it be before someone tries to do the same in humans?

The good news, then, is that the empirical origins of sexual orientation are slowly being discovered. The bad news is that once discovered, they could be manipulated. There seems no likelihood in the foreseeable future of a hormonal treatment that could affect sexual orientation in adult humans. It’s been tried to no avail for decades — and once drove great men like the brilliant codebreaker Alan Turing to suicide.

But it’s not unimaginable to see scientific insight into the origins of animal homosexuality being abused if directed towards human beings in their first months and years. Maybe hormonal manipulation in utero could make homosexuality less likely in a sheep — or a child. Or maybe in the future, research like that being done now on sheep could be used to detect homosexual orientation in foetuses or babies — and prevent it. Why not, if that’s what parents wish?

The answer, of course, is an ethical no-brainer. Experimenting on other human beings crosses a bright moral line — even when that other human being is in your own womb. There is no medical reason for meddling with anyone’s sexual orientation, let alone in the crucial first months of a human being’s life. And the potential for all sorts of unintended consequences is huge. Most ethical doctors would abhor such practices. And rightly so. Laws could even be passed, and enforced, to ban them.

My source is, apprently, unlinkable. However, the base is timesonline.co.uk and search for "Gay Sheep" and the article is the second one on the list.

Despite the obviously biased tone, this article does raise interesting questions concerning sexuality. The similarities between this line of experimentation and those done in the movie Gatika (sp?) are almost scary. I mean, while this does support the stereotypical gay arguement of nature over nurture, it may lead to a "cure" for homosexuality which raises a whole slew of philosophical questions which we are, apparently, not supposed to raise on these boards. So, I'll merely state that the implications of the subject matter in this article are very grave indeed.

This post has been edited by Onokos on Feb 28 2007, 09:17 AM

Well at one time I used to breed German Shepherds and I saw Lesbian sex amongst the bitches quite often

This post has been edited by regemet on Apr 23 2007, 12:08 AM

I know Bonobos exhibit homosexual behaviors, both males and females.

Yeh they were swans! Yeh ive seen that programme it was called "the truth about gay animals" it was intresting to watch... and one lady this bloke spoke to was convince her 2 dogs were gay and that the dog having sex with the other male was actually penetrating it and they both enjoyed it..

it was intresting to watch!

This post has been edited by Akita_fun on Apr 29 2007, 01:07 PM

Sorry, only noticed the reply today. I wanted to post some more info on this subject and saw you quoted me. But now that you mention it, yes, it was swans. Old memory ain't what it used to be! :blush: Hope you enjoy this!

LONDON (AFP) - A pair of gay flamingos have adopted an abandoned chick, becoming parents after being together for six years, a British conservation organisation said Monday.
Carlos and Fernando had been desperate to start a family, even chasing other flamingos from their nests to take over their eggs at the Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust (WWT) in Slimbridge near Bristol.
But their egg-sitting prowess made them the top choice for taking an unhatched egg under their wings when one of the Greater Flamingo nests was abandoned.
The couple, together for six years, can feed chicks by producing milk in their throats.
"Fernando and Carlos are a same sex couple who have been known to steal other flamingos' eggs by chasing them off their nest because they wanted to rear them themselves," said WWT spokeswoman Jane Waghorn.
"They were rather good at sitting on eggs and hatching them so last week, when a nest was abandoned, it seemed like a good idea to make them surrogate parents."
gay flamingos are not uncommon, she added.
"If there aren't enough females or they don't hit it off with them, they will pair off with other males," she said.
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:D Carlos & Fernando!! Gotta love those names!!!! :lol:

This post has been edited by BULLZdawg on May 22 2007, 09:25 AM

Animals are as varied as we are. Everyone (even animals) falls on a different point of the sexuality scale. From primarily Heterosexual to primarily homosexual. Personally, I'm a bisexual who is mostly attracted to males. My husband is a Bisexual primarily attracted to females. My cat, Shadow, was primarily Heterosexual until he was neutered. After that he was alone for a while until we got another altered male. Shadow was quite fond of him and those two would mount each other regularly, yet shadow no longer has any interest in females in heat.

I wish people would stop thinking of sexuality as binary. According to several linguists, the word "homosexual" was not coined until 1869 by the Hungarian physician Karoly Maria Benkert. Before then homosexual behavior was considered a normal part of sexuality. So normal, no word was even needed for it. It's amazing how backwards modern humans really are.

I guess this exhibit shows how similiar we are to animals, no matter how much we try to deny it.

wow thats crazy about the rams... who knew? :P