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| dixiedoll |
Posted: Oct 3 2006, 10:09 PM
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Currently, no... but if they ever discontinue those meat filled, plastic wrapped foam trays at Wal-mart, then maybe... or I'll become a vegan... :thinking:
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| dmitri80 |
Posted: Oct 3 2006, 10:19 PM
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Veteran Group: Banned Posts: 1149 Member No.: 143559 Joined: 7-August 05
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i have hunted. it has been years since i have been. i don't believe in sitting in a blind or stand. i prefer to track the animal. not as successful but more satisfying to me. i also only kill that which i will eat. with chemically altered commercially grown meats and who knows what else, commercial foods scare the :censored: out of me sometimes. big topic in the us now is obesity, but how can they give growth hormones to our food supply and not expect it to have an effect on us. but chemically altering our food isn't confined to meat anymore. it is everywhere. ......scary.
just my thoughts. |
| rus80 |
Posted: Oct 3 2006, 11:54 PM
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Full time poster Group: Banned Posts: 2667 Member No.: 259649 Joined: 4-April 06
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Well my wife said we could eat organic then we play with the e-Coli
Dang poor popeye in his casket a can of spinish on top of it. Oliveoil crying |
| MrIronhead |
Posted: Oct 4 2006, 12:06 AM
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I hunt. I hunt Deer, Rabbit, waterfowl, gamebird, Turkey, and bear for food. I also hunt Coyote, Fox, and Bobcat for population management and fur. I used to trap but dont have the time anymore.
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| mack500 |
Posted: Oct 4 2006, 04:17 AM
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I didn't go this year, but I do hunt
1 I enjoy the time spent out doors 2 I do use as much of the animal as possable 3 while posably gross to some wild animals tast better Hunters are the first consevationists. Plus it makes me mad when a vegitarian or vegan tells me hunting and eating meat is wrong but they have to have there leather shoes or purse or furniture, its just odd. Plus overpopulation of plant eating animals can cause more harm to the enviroment than hunting does. With out the wolves in yellowstone the elk, deer and bufflo have eatin away whole forrests of trees and other vegitation. There needs to be a balance bettween the preditors, hunters and the prey. Along with keeping enough space for them to be wild and not in a zoo. |
| junkyarddog |
Posted: Oct 4 2006, 04:35 AM
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I am an avid bowhunter for over 35 years and I take 2 every year.
I distribute the meat between my family and friends. I also spend tons of money on feed to get them through the tough days of winter,but I never use food as a bait. I beleive in fair chase. |
| Old Zoo |
Posted: Oct 4 2006, 05:16 AM
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My dad used to take me hunting as a kid but I never wanted to kill anything. Later he changed too and only wanted to film animals. I think I killed men in war (was never absolutely sure), and war made me hate even the sound of guns. There are a surplus of deer around here now, but when ever I hear the shooting I fear for my horses. I had one wounded once.
I am gradually giving up what little meat (mostly chicken and fish) I eat, until I am almost a vegan now. I don't judge people who hunt, but I think it would destroy for me the feeling I have around animals of all types. I spend much of my time trying to rescue animals, most of which have nothing to do with my being a zoo. I just like the way it makes me feel see an animal who came to the farm at the edge of death, resigned and fearful, and who now has learned to trust again. It gives me an inner peace I have never found through the material world. But that is just me... OZ |
| risq |
Posted: Oct 4 2006, 05:27 AM
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(quote) , I just think there should be more risk involved...when that wolf or lion goes out on the hunt, it's not 100% Iv been hunting for 40 years ( & Im 47). Believe me brother,, it aint 100%. There is allot of 'air' around a whitetail deer. Somebody else said they don't want to see people hunt for sport. Well, thats what it is.. Another person said they don't like to see 'Trophy Hunting' well brother, thats what I hunt for. Let the young~ins grow up abit. I like to add my own moral rules. I hunt with 1 gun. a 12 ga Remmi pump...No scope, not even a back sight. I only carry 2 shell's (incase I lose 1) I carry my gun unloaded and don't load till I see a target. All for 1 reason. It's a sport. I'd go gun~less more often, but I love to watch my Pointers work samll game, and, getting the bird is they're reward. As far as painless. The slaughterhouse's are quick, no pain. the chance of a 'miss' is slim. Hunting. I think it's rare to get a quick, instant kill. I see allot of 'gut shots' out there. Just last season, I found a wounded doe a week after the deer season closed. She'd been face down in the snow. She was scarde, cold and badly hurt. (dragging her guts and hind legs) I fetched my shotgun and finished her off.. and did not feel good about it at all, but I felt it had to be done. I felt bad for the poor little girl Yes, It's not easy getting a clean kill, but thats what us good hunters want. so we practice, and we get our ass's out in the woods, year round. Not just on first day. I always grow a beard till I get my next deer. I usualy shave once per year B) |
| moparmindy |
Posted: Oct 4 2006, 07:14 AM
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im sorry,i didnt mean to make any one mad that was not my intent.
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| deerhunter |
Posted: Oct 4 2006, 10:34 AM
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:rolleyes: I'm assumeing that everyone reconizes the fact that I'm a hunter.. Well I'm also a concervationest..
I'm a 32 year member of a hunting club in eastern Miss. where there is on farm or pasture land, Only rocky sandy hills that will only grow pine trees. The timber company that we lease from (just over 3,000 acres) comes in about every 3 or 4 years and cuts 4 to 5 hunred acres which provides new a groth of brouse for the deer and turkey which helps to maintain the health of the game.. In addition we as a 15 member club plant at least thirty food plots to provide winter grazeing at a huge expence to the members. Our planting cost normally runs arround 6 to 8,000 dollars per year, add in our lease cost and we pay 15 to 1,600 dollars each per year.. Includeing the membership and imedate family members plus guest we normally harvest arround 30 to 50 deer per year and about 20 turkeys. All game are taken humanely with only one shot. Yes even our youngsters are taught to shoot and hunt properly and never allowed to hunt alone unless they have proven themselves to be a responcible hunter.. Believe me I have seen a lot of youngsters, Boys and Girls, grow to be good hunters and fine upstanding adults, Even taught my share of them personally.. Our club is the one responcible for the beginning of the "youth hunt" to be written into law. As to conservation.. If you have never had to walk through a heard of deer and knock them in the head and smell the stinch of burning flesh as the carceses were piled and burned because of disease that had infected a complete heard because of overpopulation then you don't understand the true meaning of conservation.. Back in the '50's there were very few deer and turkey in the state of Miss. and now because of concervation we have one of the highest populations in the nation, In fact the state is over populated to a point that the game and fish department requires each club to harvest a set number of antrless (doe) deer each year to prevent the heard from getting out of controll.. In some cases the conservation officers will go out at night and headlight hundreds of deer because of over population.. Of course all of the meat is donated to orfenages and shelters.. Yes I'm a hunter and an animal lover at the same time. deerhunter |
| offtopic |
Posted: Oct 4 2006, 05:28 PM
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Hardcore ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 547 Member No.: 112035 Joined: 26-May 05
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well, i beg to differ on that one. being hung upside down as cows are, before having thier necks slit and conked on the head by a hammer, some still surviving until the next step where their torso is slit from top to bottom. Or, if you're a chicken, being kept on a conveyor line with your beak cut off and 7 to a cage while being fed antibiotics and feed, does not portray the image that these animals do not suffer or feel pain. dont get me wrong, i eat meat, but i hope that people dont have the misconception that meat animals live out thier lives in vast open fields and are killed in a gas chamber. |
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| Itzwolf |
Posted: Oct 4 2006, 06:20 PM
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Supreme Being ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3797 Member No.: 205530 Joined: 19-December 05
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Well, here I go again...let me just say I'm not trying to stomp down the hunters, just pointing things out. It's true that modern day hunters do a great deal for conservation, saving and preserving populations of deer and such. This is true, but you also have to admit if we didn't randomly kill off all the predator populations this wouldn't be necessary, or as necessary in our over-populated culture we have now.
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| Itzwolf |
Posted: Oct 4 2006, 09:36 PM
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Supreme Being ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3797 Member No.: 205530 Joined: 19-December 05
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Hey Risq...just wanted to point out that my quote on the wolf or lion wasn't used quite in the right context...the point I did make there was that when a hunter doesn't make a kill, it doesn't mean they're going to go hungry that night...good job on that doe, I could imagine it was hard to do, but certainly the right thing. Hopefully the point I'm trying to make is clear, that I don't really mind hunting, personally I have some problems with it, and wouldn't do it myself...but there are some things about it that I wish were done better...
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| marewink |
Posted: Oct 4 2006, 10:10 PM
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The most respect I've ever seen anyone give to an animal is from a hunter.
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| Old Zoo |
Posted: Oct 5 2006, 05:49 AM
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Hardcore ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 646 Member No.: 130904 Joined: 12-July 05
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I recognize the fact that hunting is a necessary part of controlling game populations, especially since we have eliminated most of the larger preditors. I also recognize that responsible hunting organizations play an important part in conservation. I also agree that we are hypocrites if we condemn hunting but eat meat prepared for us by others.
It is not my place to judge anyone, but my animal friends have given me love, joy and endless entertainment and I feel oblidged to say that I do not feel kinship to those who see killing of animals as something fun to do. I cannot pretend otherwise. Call it "sport" or whatever, I simply feel a deep sorrow that my kind has such a low empathy for other species. Hunting is certainly far from the worst thing we, as a society, do to animals, but I agree with Ghandi when he said that you can judge the level of a civilization by looking at the way it treats its animals. If he was right, we are not yet even on the scale of enlightenment. But then that's just me. This post has been edited by Old Zoo on Oct 5 2006, 05:50 AM |
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