My gut instinct is to wish that all them roast in the fires of hell!!!! But, I content myself with the knowledge that they are all going to do just that at some point regardless :lol: . So, while they are waiting for their karmic sentence to be bestowed on them, I just wish they would mind their own business; especially since personal relationships like ours don't affect others outside of the immediate participants.

The way i have worded this topic, isn't quite what i was trying to say. What i was trying to express is not hating "them" but hating what they "think" of us. Its just fear of the unknown, and what they think is we're all just sexual deviants who try to get "it" anyway we can, their very wrong, zoophilia is a loving relationship between a human and an animal. So i appoligize for sounding so close-minded myself. :(

I have to say that I wish they would stay out of our buisness as well.

Most of those who are against us are miinformed, or not informed at all. Well, that is being misinformed too, I think. Trough the past time I have had an intense dialog with some authorities who were on to make life more difficult for us. IWhat comes out is still unclear, but I hope and think that they are at least not misinformed anymore. This dialog took place in a friendly way.

Becaue of that, I was asked to do a radio interview 1½ week ago. Next day the boss of an animal welfare organisation had an article in the newspaper that what I made was raping animals, and comparable with pedophilia. I think most people were able to look trough that, because there was no spinoff because of that. Funny enough the fella did not know me, nor my dogs. He, and some others of his kind had even been ofered to investigate my dogs two months ahead of that, but they declined.

Lets now have a look at that animal welfare organisation. They collect money. Please spend money for a good sake. Now, what do they do? First, they do no work with animals whatsever. They have no shelter, give no help to wildlife. What do they do then? They make campaigns. Stop this, Do that, Ban those, etc. Thats fine, isn't it? They just sit and tell everyone else what they ought to do, while they themselves do noting else than criticize everyone else. Well, that is not all their money geos for. Everything needs to be coordinated, it takes a director to do that of course. One who fancies expensive adresses.

Such people are making propaganda. They do it for their own benefit, may the benefit be getting known in public as a VIP, or in order to collect money to pay the rotary press and the rent of the expensive adresses. They can not be reached with reasonable arguments. God luck that they make oout the smalles part of thse who are against us.
The rest of them can be reached with reasonable arguments. What they are against is people doing harm to animals because they want to penetrate that vagina of that toy poodle, or go visit other folk's horses at night. When they hear that most of us who are "into" animals think the same way, one important step is made in understanding. They just see reports of abused animals, and caught, or discovered fencehoppers, and they do not know about the rest as we make no headline with our discrete life.

Well i personally have never really come in contact with those oppose to zoophilia or beastiality in person. But I've read plenty of things against us. Really though everyone is allowed their opinion. I would love to see them loosen up and be more accepting, but they wont. As such I've just decided I'll enjoy my life as I want to live it. They have their opinions, and the right to those opinions, no matter how annoying they are to me.

i came out to my sister and she freaked !!!! she thought ,like alot of people think ,that i was just getting my jollies off .after i sat down with her and made her under stand that i truely love my dog it wasnt only a sex thing she was ok about it .alot of people think its a matter of sex only .they dont understand that even if you took the sex away i would still love my dog .but i do agree with one thing what i do in my bed room is up to me they should stay out of it .

What they think matters not.


Edit: I do not do Hate.

This post has been edited by 1BigHornDog on Sep 28 2006, 05:47 PM

Everyone judges something, it's just something we're going to have to accept...the only way your going to be judged possitively is if you work to change the attitudes of those that judge you. Being this is such a touchy topic to be out in the open with I think we're just going to have to live with it. I'm certainly not going to condemn someone just because they feel bestiality is evil and done by degenerates, they just don't have all the information, or are closed minded. If it's the latter, well then it's just not worth it, nothing your going to do is going to change that, and they're not worth worrying over.

An observation on people
A long time ago when I started managing stallions breeding them was no big deal if some one walked by etc. It was just that- breed the mare. We would explain what was going on to the mares family [sex ed] on request. Now if you do anything with a stallion around our area you do it in the barn. People find it offencive. spell chk in new server? AI is the civel way to breed your mare now. I think it is ok for the vet to handle her though. We do not teach breeding any more even if asked. Someone asks a pointed question it may very well not be leagal to answer. I bread a mare one time and the people called the police, The officer kept horses down the road but because of town law I had to take the mare to the woods next time.
Now just think what some one would think if they saw me wash one of my studs penis's.
If some person cant handle that how are they going to deal with some one sleeping with there dog.
just a thought
Rus

Yea I agree. People are going to judge all the time about all sort of things. I just wish that people would stop being so close-minded. Anyways everyone have a right to their own saying and stuff like that, just like everbody else said.

All of you make VERY good points, and again i am not stating tha i hae them as a person but how they can be so close minded if they just took the time to learn about it instead of assuming what most people do then everyone would be happy, why is beastiality illegal is some countries anyway? :thinking:

i was once one of those people who i hate now......they say its molestaton but the animal may only think its natural theres nothing wrong with it and clearly if the dog thrust it is not losing its dignity its enjoying abd i think (weell pray) that we would never force an animal to please us

thanx silkythighs :D

"To Each, His Own". Just because someone expresses an opinion doesn't mean judgement, it's an opinion and that's it. And, no matter what we do in life, no ones opinion matters except for the ones we allow, your closest friends or family.

My motto in life is: "the only opinion that matters to me, is the one who signs your check and the one your sleeping with" :whistling:

(svansfall ) Your response was awesome ...I think in no way It should be ilegal,, to each there own,,, as long as no~1 is harmed and nobody is doing it publictly like streekers.. we all have opinions and desires..and certian cravings wether sexual or what ever be ...every human or beast has sexual needs ...even nuns and priest have orgasms ...what is done to satisfy for ,,,,cravings/desire/self satasfying in private.and is not inflicting on others .there should not be opinions of any~1 we all live breathe & eat to stay alive some Ill some comfortable some wealthy some living with out hope in life or meaning...this world should not raise rucass how some~1 else does something. weather rite or wrong ...no~body should have open opinions on others openly- publicly( how to/ not to & do nots...we all know or should know ...how not to hurt or jepordize another...so what we do to our own gratafacation..is And should totaly happy and enjoyable moments.....my opinion..===== get rid of all congress.goverment...lobyists....give rites back to us...why do we work hard and pay aprox 20 to 300 high wages per state to speak for us and make laws wich we all know what could hurt another......(why opinaite) people need to get with life...think before you speak think before you vote another goverement job opening thats gonna get paid more than you earn in 2 years per year to take more away from you and others in every aspect in life....let voices be herd on how to love thy neighbor.. .respect/ care/help.....not shunn and hurt thy neighbor...................this is my( opinion) :beer: :whistling: