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What do you think? I've heard of such stories before, of course, but never before had a place to post them :)

Another thing I wonder, what do you all think of the 'slippery slope' argument most people have regarding gay marriage?

To be truthful, I actually do see it opening things in that it helps us get over bigotry, but even then, I doubt marriage will ever be government-recognized until animals can be recognized as citizens, as to enter into legal agreements. So, the first potential mates would probably Apes, Dolphins, or Elephants perhaps? Rather costly, heh.

How does one go about having the law recognize what is good? I do not desire to go against it, and am patient, yet I don't understand these laws I guess. The pet-status, animal ownership, is essentially being the slavemaster to an animal in legal terms... you can have them put down, you can sell them to others, you can neuter them... but you can't have intercourse? Rather strange.

Then again, you can't abuse them, at least I think there are protection laws with that. The problem is, that sex is classed in with that. It seems the legal system these days seems to consider ANY sex violent and ill-spirited in nature unless the person (and what they consider 'person' varies) clearly and continually consents... and they judge what they think of those whose opinions are unclear, thinking we'd simply see what we'd want to see of what they want. Bah.

One way to go about legalizing beastlove would of course, be to remove these animal protection laws, and let owners do whatever they want to their 'property'. That is a way, I guess, but it doesn't sit too well with me. Some animals shouldn't be property, and it would allow people to inflict suffering for pleasure, which is bad. Longer road, finding the humanity in animals, but probably best for the long run, if I can only live so long. Luckily enough, humans are still the most attractive animal so they'll sate my curiosity with mysteries for the interim.

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there are some REALLY good decaffinated brands on the market now a days :lol:


just slow down a bit - take time to familiarize yourself with the forum - the available categories - the exisiting threads - and most of all the rules...

althought many of the things you want to discuss are already topics here - you have to tread easily concerning some - as we have a no politics discussion rule...

I'm gonna lock this post for safe keeping - have fun cruising :)