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Posted: Jul 5 2006, 12:39 PM
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We have been dating for ten years ( My thinking about making love to a large breed dog or horse is not that new to me...But I have yet to try it. I guess you could say I am a Zoo Virgin)and when ever I try to bring the topic around to sex with animals he gets very angry or says he's disgusted by "just the idea of it.
I love my boyfriend very much but, I would like to try this. I have always loved dogs. They are so strong, beautiful, and personally a couple of the larger breeds make me hot.
Please, If you have any ideas let me know.

P.S. Lately I have had a fantasy about having sex with a dog and its owner at the same time.
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Posted: Jul 5 2006, 01:39 PM
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Any advice...Or has this hapened to someone else?
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Posted: Jul 5 2006, 01:56 PM
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:) Hello scratchme and :welcome:


Are you looking for ideas about talking your boyfriend around to the idea of fulfilling your fantasies, or ideas about how you might go about this fulfillment, or both sweetie?
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  Posted: Jul 5 2006, 05:38 PM
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You might need to get a new boyfriend. I mean, what happens if you try animal sex and fall in love with it like I did, and then your partner is adamant about it being sick and you could never do it again except for rare occasions. It would drive me crazy.
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Posted: Jul 5 2006, 06:17 PM
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A 10 year relationship is nothing if he can't accept who you are. I found this out the hard way, trying to be who I'm not for someone else just wasn't something I could do without constant depression and thoughts of suicide. Although it wasn't about being a zoo... but I talk too much, sorry.
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Posted: Jul 5 2006, 10:22 PM
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Not linking the "get a new boyfriend" approach, to be brutally honest. Ten years is not to be sniffed at, and to get rid of someone that clearly genuinely feels for you enough to maintain a relationship for such a length of time for a zoophilic fling to satisfy a sexual urge is pretty cruel and inconsiderate, to be honest.

Surely you can talk to him about it, if not to make him like it, at least to accept that you feel this way and it won't change, and maybe see if he'll let you indulge with his consent to make you happy? Niether of those things should be a big deal to two people in a relationship, what with openness and care for one another being paramount, but really, I wouldn't recommend going behind his back and indulging deceptively. Unfortunately, at the end of the day, if he is adamant that he doesn't like it, it just seems you'll have to decide which is more important, isnit?
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Posted: Jul 6 2006, 08:16 AM
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I think she has already stated that she has tried to talk to him about it on multiple occassions with absolutely no success. Unfortunately, the hard, cold fact is that most zoophiles who have human partner are extremely lucky and rare if their partner merely accepts this aspect of the personality with indifferent silence. Even rarer is the partner who is understanding, encouraging of their animal loving partners desires. Rarest of all is the partner who is also into it as well. To be honest I think there is a hard decision to be made here Scratch. Namely, do you largely or totally supress a basic part of your personality just to make said boyfriend happy. If you do that then you are obviously the more considerate one in the relationship since he's obviously not willing to discuss the topic much less accept your actual feelings on this matter. Granted 10 years of a relationship is a looooong time. But the length of a relationship does not have anything to do with the quality of one. As Ratchick mentioned already constantly, crushing part of your own personality can be a terribly hard thing to do. I, nor anyone else here can tell you that you should can the relationship and move and try to find someone else more accepting. Certainly, if you wish to go that route, you'll find no end of supplicant males on this board and others, who would not only accept but encourange and help you explore your full sexuality. I wish there were some better advice I could give to help magically improve your boyfriends outlook. Unfortunately there are none. To paraphrase Kermit the Frog, "It's not easy being a zoophile". Just try and take comfort that you are not alone in your desires, and that there are others around that are willing to either merely help you explore your physical desires, as well those wanting to establish a long term relationships with kindred spirits in animal loving. Take care.
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Posted: Jul 6 2006, 08:46 AM
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I think 10 years is a long time to invest in a relationship... and to blow it over this one thing in my opinion would be stupid.. obviously there is A LOT going on in other avenues of the relationship that have kept you with him so long.. is this one desire really so important that you would want to ruin something that you have worked on and nurtured to this point..

I also wonder.. would you all feel the same if she had said... I really want to try scat and my boyfriend thinks it is gross.. would you be telling her to leave the man she loved cuz he thought that was gross and disgusting.. ???

Im sorry scratchme but there is no easy solution to this dilema.. you have to discover what it is that you want .. you have to decide if the decision will truely make you happy.. only YOU know the answer to this.. only YOU will have to live with the consequenses of your choices.. are you really willing to give up on a relationship with a man you say you love very much .. for a romp in the hay with a dog???

ohh and yes I was married to a man that thought women and dogs being together sexually was disgusting.. all it took for me to abandon the idea was his reaction when I tried to bring the topic up... we have since divorced.. but we also had many other problems and this wasnt even a factor..


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Posted: Jul 6 2006, 09:44 AM
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DUMP HIS ASS. Whats wrong with the guy. OK sure 10 years is a long time but come on. BTW anybody that takes advice from me better have thier heads examined.
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Posted: Jul 6 2006, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE (ratchick @ Jul 5 2006, 06:17 PM)
A 10 year relationship is nothing if he can't accept who you are. I found this out the hard way, trying to be who I'm not for someone else just wasn't something I could do without constant depression and thoughts of suicide. Although it wasn't about being a zoo... but I talk too much, sorry.

Yeah, BUT. What if he had a fetish that could possibly be harmful to herself or others? Or like someone else said that a fetish involved in things WE would consider 'disgusting'. You just can't say "oh he has to accept her as she is" Thats really being just as inconsiderate of the other person as they are being of you. A large part of the population probably considers bestiality as disgusting as scat play. We can't fault them for that, and we certainly can't break up with them cause they don't have the same fetish as us.

like curly joe said, ending a 10 year relationship over a sexual fantasy would be petty and selfish.

not that i would suggest finding love on the side either. Not only is it dangerous in more ways than one, but hurtful to your partner when you get caught.

Most fantasies remain just that. A lot of guys want to sleep with 2 girls, but you dont see men breaking up with thier girlfriends because of it. Accept it, move on.
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Posted: Jul 6 2006, 06:26 PM
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Ten years is a long time but you always regret it if you dont go for the k9 you can always get another b/friend x
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Posted: Jul 6 2006, 06:48 PM
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wow i guess sex is more important than love to some on the board here, which kind of contradicts the whole motto you've got going on.

think to yourself. After its all done and over, after the orgasm, after the inital "OMG" will you be happy with yourself afterwards. Will you be glad that you left behind the man you've been in love with for 10 years and shared life with for the exchange of brief sexual pleasure.

I guess i feel vehemently about this because im in that situation. I desperately want to f*** a dog. I dream about it, i masturbate to it, its my number one fantasy. Would i give up the love of my life to fufill it? Never. ever ever
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Posted: Jul 7 2006, 01:04 AM
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I have to agree big time with off topic.. wyldfy..... and curly joe. The rest aren't necessarrily wrong but you haven't told us the whole story. Are you happy with this guy, aside from the ani sex thing? How old are you and he? Any kids? Do you live together? These and many other things all affect your choice and our advice. If you are 57yo, three kids, by your x, and he is 72yo with lots of moola, no kids, or relatives, please forget you dream for now.LOL. On the other hand, if this is something that is causing you real heavy duty problems you may loose your man. Only you can make that decision! You have taken the first step by coming here for advice. A lot of the people here can sympathise with you. They have been there done that. In the end it is your choice. Good luck

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Posted: Jul 7 2006, 04:54 AM
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The question is not love or sex. I wish it was that easy, beucase then the answer would be easy. First off she needs to ask her self is she a zoo or a person with a beastiality fetish. The two are fundamentally different.

If she beleives that she is in fact a zoo with all that entails then a break up might be best. A true zoo active sexually or not denied thier animal companionship in what ever form it takes is exactly the same as a homosexual pretending to live straight. The amount of emotional and mental stress will cause massive problems. To thine own self be true. If you cannot be who you are in the privacy of your own home and with your partner you cannot be happy and fullfilled. If her boyfriend cannot accpet who she is then ther eis no hope.

The flip side is if she simply has a beastiality fetish. Alot of people on this site like to claim the mantle of being a zoo when if fact they are not. I don't have a lot of posts but I have been lurking. My stay in the shadows has taught quite a bit. To me a real zoo forms a partnership bond (not nessecerily a pair bonding) with their animal companion. They are responsable for the care, grooming, health etc of thier animal and put as much effort into their animals welfare as they do their own sexual enjoyment. The beast lovers view animals as nothing more than flesh and blood vibrators. To paraphrase a rooster any-dog-will-do (cock-a-doodle-do).

She needs figure out which group she belongs in. She obviously has gone past the mere fantasy stage by broaching the subject with her boyfriend in such a way that he is able to delcare his objections. How many of us would come out repeatedly to some one who rejected us for our prolaclivties? What she has done is brave and commendable. But now she has to figure out the truth. Is it just a desire, or is it a longing and a need vs a want.

If it is mere want then breaking up a 10 year relationship for a sexual fix would indeed be wrong. However if it is something she needs to be a complete person then the relationship is a hinderance to her happiness.

I wish her luck, and hope to be in her boyfriends shoes someday (not with her but with a fellow zoo so that I can find fullfillment.)
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Posted: Jul 7 2006, 05:14 AM
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While it's sad to admit, but I can completely sympathize with your situation.

My husband was completely against anything zoo. The idea of it disgusted him more than anything else in the world. The man was homophobic as well, and once blatently told me that he would rather see two men having sex than anyone having sex with an animal.

So I kept my mouth shut about my desires for a long time. But when he found out/I told him (it was one of those weird, hard to describe situations), he left me. Packed his bags that very night.

At first I was devastated. I was willing to deny the zoo part of myself and go to counseling (which was his request) just to have him back. When that didn't work, I was an absolute mess. I wanted him back because I loved him deeply, and couldn't imagine life without him.

As time passed, though, I came to the realization that if he couldn't love me for exactly who I was then we shouldn't be together anyway. Whether a relationship is five days or fifty years, both parties must be open and honest with each other. What is the worth of a realationship that is based on lies or secrets?

In your particular situation, I would say that you have to be true to yourself. And if he isn't supportive of you being you, then you may very well be better off without him.
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