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Posted: Jun 19 2006, 07:51 PM
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a couple of critical things:

was your sister always like this? if the answer is yes, i would never have told her.

as for her threatening to tell your family, you calmly deny it (your sister would have the burden of proof, not you and just saying that you do this is not proof) and counter that she is merely retaliating for striking her (which by the way, you never should have done). i can understand the whole "heat of the moment" thing, but hitting her was a big mistake and i think you know that. if you didn't then, you certainly do now.

good luck. keep us posted.
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Posted: Jun 20 2006, 04:23 AM
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QUOTE (piquantpassage @ Jun 19 2006, 10:51 AM)


was your sister always like this? if the answer is yes, i would never have told her.

as for her threatening to tell your family, you calmly deny it (your sister would have the burden of proof, not you and just saying that you do this is not proof) and counter that she is merely retaliating for striking her (which by the way, you never should have done). i can understand the whole "heat of the moment" thing, but hitting her was a big mistake and i think you know that. if you didn't then, you certainly do now.



Yes my sister has always been extremely spoiled and has battled with mom for years. And over these years, she has said many outragious and mean spirited things in anger. So you are right, I shouldn't have come out to her. When someone acts like that, it makes you wonder whether they can ever truely be sincere. In contrast, I have never, nor would I ever even think of acting like that toward family.

That confirms to me that it's not worth it to try to make amends with her. I'm not saying that I won't ever talk to her, but she's never again going to get any favors from me.

You can say it was wrong for me to slap her and I do agree that I shouldn't have done it. It also didn't acomplish anything positive. However, the only thing that makes it wrong in my mind is that it is against the law. It was not meant to hurt her; to me it was a symbolic gesture meaning the opposite of a hug or kiss. Yes, it was a "heat of the moment" thing.

I do not agree that slapping her was worse than the way she acted toward me and my mother. Does anyone agree with this statement?
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Posted: Jun 20 2006, 04:36 AM
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I am sorry to hear of your bad time with familie. Your sister sounds she does not want you to talk to again too. Be yourself and be normal with yoru family and if yoru sister is spoiled child, then it is yrou parents problem they are responsable for her and they can take what they have made.

It is not your fault. just live on
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Posted: Jun 20 2006, 04:59 AM
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QUOTE (gemma_as_herself @ Jun 19 2006, 07:01 AM)
In my opinion, not only are you not responsible for her behaviour, nor are you in fact responsible for holding the peace between everyone within your family. It is because you will readily assume such a role mostly due to your niceness that your sister can act up with complete self-assuredness, and spin an attention-seeking hissy fit into a full-blown family feud.


You hit the nail on the head here. If there is one thing I've learned, it's how true it is that you cannot change someone once they've turned 18. You just don't have to do anything for them anymore.

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Also, by trying to second-guess your parents' reaction to your imminent revelation, perhaps you are clouding your options? If you go into the room with your tail between your legs apologetically, then it might be very difficult to elicit a positive reaction from them whatsoever. They might pick up on your guilt and uncertainty, and then perhaps mis-interpret your "confession" as a desire to be helped to stop indulging, then tailor their reaction accordingly...


I do not believe that I can be "cured" of zoophilia and I would make them understand that. That would be an interesting question for discussion - whether anyone has tried to be cured. Although, it's probably already been asked on this board.


I sure appreaciate everyones replies and advice. It goes to show that there are truely caring people on this forum.

But all this thought about that night has really gotten me depressed. I guess it's better to forget about it and just not do anything for my sister and avoid telling my parents anything more than I have.
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Posted: Jun 20 2006, 01:40 PM
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Perhaps a brief holiday might help lift your spirits? Get as far away as your budget will allow for a week or even two. This will also help if you are dropping the matter completely: up, go, enjoy yourself, and don't look back.

I think after all of that intensity, you really deserve it. :heart:
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Posted: Jun 21 2006, 03:37 AM
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the question of a "cure" for being a zoo presupposes the idea that being a zoo is a sickness or condition that might be remedied. Regardless of whether or not the APA says so, I'm amazed that it is even suggested by anyone in this forum. If the question of "curability" is arising, is it any wonder that a dipstick such as your sister might be able to inflict fear or guilt on you because of the way others might react to her outing you? F* her and feed her peanuts--and take better care of yourself, love yourself more, and leave the drama for your mama. Sis would never be able to get anywhere in stirring up a problem if you were not yourself afraid of her own bigotry and willing to buy into it somewhat; keep working on this; it will come, as will the wisdom of keeping closed-mouthed about your love life. Who is you most dangerous enemy? Your former best friend, and since you thought your sis was your best friend, take this to heart as a life lesson.

As for slapping her--no, you shouldn't have done it. Send the :censored: to me; I'll take care of it for you.

This post has been edited by wyldfyre67 on Jun 24 2006, 07:16 PM
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Posted: Jun 21 2006, 02:25 PM
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Context alphasubK9, context... nobody was suggesting anything of the sort... :kiss:
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Posted: Jun 23 2006, 04:15 PM
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Never ever trust anyone least of all your siblings.
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Posted: Jun 24 2006, 06:21 PM
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Morning..
I have a thought fallowing this thred.
I have lived as a personal loner for my first 20 years. My mother was a controaling self sentered female who would have been running my life if I had one. I went to work sleepped and road my horse. When they found I owned a horse I was thrown out of the house. I intended to stay alown but met a girl riding who liked my horse, me and became my wife when I found she did not want kids. My mother went beserk. My father spent as much time as he could with us.
People live with secrets ... some, it means there lives or there work.. there familys know only the bare excusees for there travle that there work is not interesting they hate answering the phone. In my life I have met a few no more than 5 of these people and only 3 know my porn interest. One I took aside and told after knowing him for 10 years because his family became very close to us and he knew I had a porn interest he had a girl so I came out to him. The other 2 except the porn thing and go no farther but we except they have lives we will never know about as well. Mother demanded children from us I told her no mater how much she offered money we just could not get it right. We sold a lot of foals though. We have bread horses for years and the breeding goes on weather company is visiting or not. I wash my studs befor I breed them and this has led to suspition from non horsemen.
People are NOT tolerant of others. If you get found out you will not have a friend to stand on. Co workers know I breed horses and they always pry to see if I do anything with them.. They are not being nice they want somewon to tease and pick on. I joke with them about the breeding habits of the boys to get there minds of me.
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Posted: Jun 25 2006, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE (rus80 @ Jun 24 2006, 09:21 AM)
When they found I owned a horse I was thrown out of the house.

Wow, why the heck would they throw you out of the house for owning a horse?!?! That's horrible!

Does your wife know you're into zoophilia? God, I wish I could find someone like that to marry. How do you get so lucky to meet someone like that by chance?
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Posted: Jun 25 2006, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE (alphasubK9 @ Jun 20 2006, 06:37 PM)
the question of a "cure" for being a zoo presupposes the idea that being a zoo is a sickness or condition that might be remedied. Regardless of whether or not the APA says so, I'm amazed that it is even suggested by anyone in this forum. If the question of "curability" is arising, is it any wonder that a dipstick such as your sister might be able to inflict fear or guilt on you because of the way others might react to her outing you?

Yeah, I say "cure" because that is how my parents would see it. But it would be a nice counter arguement against theirs to say that people have tried to be "cured" but they can't be because there is nothing to cure.

I know of at least one BF member who got sent to a shrink because his parents discovered that he's a zoo. But the parents discovered that they had to accept him the way he was because the shrink told them that there wasn't anything for him to cure.
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Posted: Jun 25 2006, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE (alphasubK9 @ Jun 21 2006, 03:37 AM)
the question of a "cure" for being a zoo presupposes the idea that being a zoo is a sickness or condition that might be remedied. Regardless of whether or not the APA says so, I'm amazed that it is even suggested by anyone in this forum. If the question of "curability" is arising, is it any wonder that a dipstick such as your sister might be able to inflict fear or guilt on you because of the way others might react to her outing you? F* her and feed her peanuts--and take better care of yourself, love yourself more, and leave the drama for your mama. Sis would never be able to get anywhere in stirring up a problem if you were not yourself afraid of her own bigotry and willing to buy into it somewhat; keep working on this; it will come, as will the wisdom of keeping closed-mouthed about your love life. Who is you most dangerous enemy? Your former best friend, and since you thought your sis was your best friend, take this to heart as a life lesson.

As for slapping her--no, you shouldn't have done it. Send the :censored: to me; I'll take care of it for you.

Well said!

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Posted: Jun 26 2006, 03:06 AM
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Yes she does know. I generally only help the boys if they get "stressed" I keep my help private. I dont push my good fortune as I would be truly lost with out her.

For the most part there is no crular animal than a human. They all tend to start a pecking order and if you do not engage in the foolishness they use you to push there possision for them selves in there pack.
I work with people every day and I leave them at work.
People tought me how to keep them in place [I can be well we wont go there as South would not approve] and to avoid them and I am glad for it.
That said I find this board very pleasent and it was South FL who by his wrightings I read as a guest got me to sign on.. The friends I keep if not close the other 3 anyway are gay all judge nowone and do not down any one. This board has extended the friend list some for me.
Even I suprise my self sometimes
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Posted: Jul 18 2007, 03:41 AM
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IT IS YOUR CHOICE
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Posted: Jul 18 2007, 05:46 AM
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it's your life, and it seems to me if you're doing something you're ashamed of, you shouldn't do it
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