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Rules Of Engagement, Rules to Live By

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Barb Dyer	Posted: Apr 26 2007, 09:09 PM
Hardcore Group: Members Posts: 717 Member No.: 194128 Joined: 28-November 05 Rate Member:	yeah, same here

spaceDOG	Posted: Dec 20 2007, 06:04 AM
Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 163 Member No.: 140400 Joined: 1-August 05 Rate Member:	thanks!

Knotinmymouth	Posted: Dec 20 2007, 06:09 AM
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 42 Member No.: 551380 Joined: 3-August 07 Rate Member:	Id give you a ten if I could. Very well put, its often bothered me that Im lumped in with the likes of David Parker Ray in the public minds eye (who was the NM serial killer who operated satans den), or those people whose Presa was allowed to kill that woman outside her apartment in CA. a few years ago. Its always the rottenest apples that float to the top and make the rest of the barrel look spoiled as well.

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QUOTE (KnottLust @ Jul 9 2006, 10:40 AM)

Hello All,

Well, I read as much as I could till my eyes crossed, I got through page 3.

Hmmm, well, my first thoughts are on the origination of the post.

After reading your "Rules of Engagement" I find myself perplexed. I am somewhat new to this, having only experienced "some" contact throughout the years with canines. I am generally an individual who does not classify others with titles to describe any sexual preferences. It is my belief that everyone has a social/outside life and a private/sexual life (whatever that may entail), and THAT is no ones business but theirs. To me, no matter who or what the joining pair, human/human, human/animal, animal/animal, it should be comfortable and enjoyable for both. And abuse is abuse no matter what form or fashion it is.

I do not believe there is any distinction between Animal Lovers and those who Love Animals. Those are one in the same. Either one has a good heart or they don't. Simple as that.

I will say that I also agree with some comments from all posters. I do believe that animals should be loved, just as you would a human. But, animals are not humans and I do consider them pets, I do not consider them equals. Do I love my cat more than my children? NO. But, I care for her just as I do my children. I love her just as I do my children, and I scold her when justified just as I do my children.

I do belive that most animals have a stronger instinct towards sexual encounters, canine's being one of them. And, I do believe that through thousands of years of socializing canine's they have it within them to form bonds with their owners or families they belong to or others they come in regular contact with and not just of a protective nature. You describe steps to ensure prevention of the canine from eventually becoming or feeling dominant. This statement alone contradicts your own statements of the love/partership bond between you and your dog. Why? Because with a human it would not be necessary to teach or train them when and where it was appropriate to have sex. Because, plain and simple, they are pets for a reason. They are not equal to us as humans. Please keep in mind, that is not to say that we should treat them any less than we would another human.

The reason I was so perplexed is because though I do feel a sexual desire, and a sexual desire only, to have sex with a canine, and I do love and care for animals and would never cause them harm, I would never consider a male canine my lover, as that status is reserved for the human men in my life, or the occassional couple or group I engage with. I have a very strong sexual drive and desire which can not be fulfilled at times, even by several men, and sexually speaking I need and want more. Canine intercourse does arouse and intrigue me and that is my reason for pursuing it. It is my belief that canine's do have a strong sexual drive and I don't believe that if a male canine is willing and there is no abuse, that it's wrong unless I don't consider them my lover and mate. A canine can never achieve the level of lover or mate as they are an inferior breed than we are.

I do agree that everyone who has posted an opinion has a right to whatever they believe. Even if I or anyone else does not agree with another. That's why we're humans, because we can and have the ability to conceptualize. On the subject of Titles, whether someone is a Zoo, Beasty, gay, Lesbian, White, Black, Yellow, Orange, Mentally fit, Fat, Thin, short, tall, Bald, Old, or whatever title people choose to put on anyone else, I don't believe in them and have taught my children that there are no titles, we are all humans, no matter what any of our attributes may be, it is wrong to classify a human being based on any other fact than the fact that we are humans and there is not one of us who is better, less, more important, inferior, or superior to another, period, end of story.

Now, I know some of you will dissagree with me, and hey, that's just fine, I appreciate all points of view. This is just mine.

I will not comment on the fence hopping issue as I have no personal experience with this or know anyone who's done it, and have never seen or heard a story about it in the news. All I will say is that all humans and animals should be treated with respect and kindness.

Love Knots to all, KnottLust.

Id give you a ten as well if I could!

Im one of those who doesnt find a home in either classification of Beast or Zoo.. so I definitely relate to everything youre saying. While I love my animals, care for, and respect them nearly as much as I do people.. I feel that (at least for me) they need to be relegated to a slightly lower status, perhaps I only feel this way because I have people who are there for me if I need them. The saddest part is, is our furred compatriots dont live long (reminds me of Elf and Human love in J.R.R.s writings...yeah, Im a hopeless romantic :P and corny), and losing something you love is harsh, and almost everyone needs a support group to fall back on.. its just one example, but as much as I love them, my animals cant provide everything I need... however, I can provide everything they need and make their lives as enjoyable as possible.

akhe100	Posted: Feb 19 2008, 01:10 PM
Beginner Group: Members Posts: 73 Member No.: 114049 Joined: 31-May 05 Rate Member:	My 2 cents: I personally could never consider an animal my "lover" but I do believe that animal/human sex is ok if two conditions are met. 1. The human respects the animal if he gets the sense the animal doesn't want to do anything, animals make this fairly obvious by shying away, making angry noises, or kicking/biting one. Generally it is obvious when an animal does not want to do things as animals are very honest and a person must respect them if they don't. 2. The animal is not physically harmed in any way shape or form. If the following things happen I don't see an incredible problem with animal sex or even sometimes fencehopping. As long as the person is not intruding upon a relationship, hurting the animal, or disregarding it's right to say no, then I don't see where there is a problem.

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