well - everything checks out ok in here -ummm kinda....

just a few notes...

this topic - although very poised - will not be pinned (at least not by me) because it is too opinionated (errrr based on opinions and not facts -there are no facts - this subject is totally subjective-at least as it has been presented) this thread was designed to discuss 'approaching animals in a nurturing way" -and everyone from the very get go -all the way to the last post -has deviated from that -and that is this threads biggest shortcoming...

I am not saying that there isn't a place for a pinned thread on this subject on the forum -or that the original poster isn't qualified to create one - what I'm saying is that because A. this one is based too much on opinion and not facts and B. everyone got sidetracked -that it doesn't meet my personal expectation of fitting the bill and serving as a useful GUIDE - although certainly it does serve the community ^_^

everyone has the right to voice thier views -HOWEVER - lets stay focused here folks - there is no need to drag similies of vegan or any other unrelated subjects into a already complex discussion -stick to the topic please -which is NOT fence hopping -there is already a fence hopping thread where you are more than welcome to discuss (doesn't that sound a lot nicer than debate :P ) the issue (and in which apparently needs a review to see whats going on :ruck: :diablo: :lol:

in short - discuss the nurturing ways to approach animals in this thread - and discuss unrelated topics in the threads that were designed for those topics - thank youuuuuuuu :)

Thank you southflorida for keeping this thread open and your friendly reminder for everyone to stay "On Topic" ^_^

Thanks South, and thanks again Red for the spirit of the starting post of this thread ^_^

Yes, Thank You southflorida for keeping this thread open.

Any advice on what I should get my "stablemate" for her birthday? Muffin will be 22 years old on April 13th! :wub:




.....errr, is that post "on topic"? :huh:


^_^

I think that she has all she needs, Your Love. :wub:

This post has been edited by racoolman on Apr 2 2006, 03:17 AM

Great minds think alike :lol:

I was going to say "your time" ^_^

:blush:

Well, Your Love, Your Time, Your Care, But Surely I need not tell you this.

This post has been edited by racoolman on Apr 2 2006, 03:23 AM

I think that about covers it.

This post has been edited by racoolman on Apr 2 2006, 03:24 AM

I can only second what the other people have said. :) Give her your affection, which I am sure you do every day, Hambletonian. :)

I also would like to add, that I think Racoolman's reply to hmmmmmm was a very well worded post.

And then I would like to apologize for jumping on the bandwagon and continuing the fencehopping discussion in the wrong thread. It is a shame that it ended up here, distracting from the original post, which was an excellent post.

I also hope people have not misinterpreted my views either.

Thanks to everyone for being civil.

Sorry Racoolman. We got kinda carried away. It's an emotive subject. :thinking:


:sorry:

Don't a problem rololover. it was not your fault.

Well, if the debate is over, are there any other things that we Animals Lovers can Talk about?

Thank you for the advice I do not have a pet lover yet but hope some day to have a lover thats dose more than watch tv and blech

Regarding our relationships with our animals, I would like to raise a subject I haven't seen mentioned on the forum, though I may well have missed it.
That is the danger of us endowing our pets with human qualities they do not posess in our efforts to establish a one to one bond.
I'm sure we have all seen on tv people who grossly over & wrongly feed their animals, dress them in human type clothes, and carry them around to save their little legs, in short, killing them with kindness. Is there a temptation for zoos to make their pets substitute humans, denying their true nature? Each species is different, and to deny that difference, including their sexuality, could amount to a form of cruelty. I love my dogs as, and for being, dogs, and my horses likewise, but there is always the temptation to imagine they have more human characteristics than is really the case. I think we need to give serious thought to a proper understanding of their true nature if we are to form a genuine relationship.