Preface: I prommised I'd write this up for south a long time ago but much has happend to prevent me from doing so (I ended up living a month in the bush! for starters) Well, thank fully things have stabilised and I'm at a point where I can toss some time into an Informitive Post.


I'll start off with birds as I have most info on hand for this.

Birds aka Fowls*:

Bird for the most part are radicly diferant then most mamales, they share one thing in commen with a fiew marsupial and that is the Coclea** and are very delicate far as bone structer goes. Durring two birds mating he pushes his coalca against hers and squeezes in his seamen, the tubes leading to where they need be are very small (Ever hear the pain a hen goes through laying?) and are very delicate. The rotation per egg layd is 2 or more houres, usualy three to four eggs a day at best. Now take the average length and girth of a human penise, you will see its girth is on par with the eggs diamiter and think "Hey this will work!" WRONG take another look, notice some thing about the length?

A mamalse Vagina (Albeit very sensitive) has very strong skin on the inside (Well more like very strong skin like mucuse membrains) where as a chickens egg tube is very delicat and thin mucuse membrain, so providing you even go up the right tube, the damage is equal, and will cuase insurmountable damage to either organ, and sine the length will crush other organs. By now any one with any concionse or empathy will be clinching their ass imaginning the pain that they would feel to having there internal orifices torn apart and organs crushed!, and after ward the bird would die a very slow and extreamly painfull death!

If you tuely love a bird, then you'll obviously do nothing to hurt it, and you must accept the fact with small fowls, like ducks, gees, chickens, ectra it will all ways result in sever internal injury.



* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird
** cloaca Related: Zoology,

(klōā´ke) , in biology, enlarged posterior end of the digestive tract of some animals. The cloaca, from the Latin word for sewer, is a single chamber into which pass solid and liquid waste materials as well as the products of the reproductive organs, the gametes. Cloacas are found in amphibians, reptiles, birds, and lower mammals; higher mammals have a separate rectal outlet, the anus. The term cloaca is also used for analogous chambers in many invertebrates, such as worms of the phylum Nematoda .




Snakes and reptiles:

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thank you! thank you! thank you! - this is a reference way overdue and needed on the forum - it is GREATLY APPRECIATED! Looking forward to the future installment.

thanX to beaker for pinning this valueable information!

And I would also add my Thank You to Allan for posting this and really look forward to the rest that you will be adding to this thread.

I had a pretty good idea about this and after reading your post on what exactly happens, I am very glad this information will be available to everyone here on the Forum.


again, Thank You! ^_^

Ok I was just going to edit this in.

Please note that I have heavily over simplified this, and it is lacking crisp detail, any one feel free to add more indepth detail as you see fit.

I'm trying to start my own business so am rather preoccupied as of late (Another reason this took so long)

Thanks

Allan :)

Thank you very very much Allan and i for one am very greatfull for u takeing the time to write it

Hmmm this non ability to edit after long term is annoying!

Eels, Wet skinded reptials or amphibians:

Obviously thees creators are considerable diferant from us, aside from the obvious there is another one very hidden as we are usualy unaware that it is even existant, and that is their skin, most can breath through it, or have very sensitive nerve receptors on it, but both share one majour thing in common, both are extreamly sensitive to touch and most be kept moist.

Where our skin is not nearly as sensitive, it too needs to be kept moist but thousands of fractions less so, but the majour unique diferance here is, we excreat salt, urin and even amonia from our skin along with fatty acids, our entire bodies surface is coverd in this, more so our hands. When we catch a frog, it strugles to excape, but when we toutch it, it fights extreamly fierc, ever wonder why it fights so much harder only when we actualy toutch it? Imagine some on catching you, but then slowely dipping your hand into a bucket of warm mixed acids, the pain will be increadible wouldn't it? This is what exactly happens to the frog, or an Eel, or any other amphibian! the acids on our skin burns off thiers! just by the very toutch you force it to endure insurmountable pain, the texture on our fingertips tear the sensitive linning on the out side of their skin as well.

So in short JUST by TOUTCHING them you: Burn and tear thier skin, Break Bones, cuase gross levels of pain and suffering to them along with tons of stress!.

So you may enjoy it, but I prommis you the animal wont, and if you still do it after you know this, you realy need to be slaped through a steel bridge suport! in my own opinnion!

Sources :Any good High school grade twelve biology books along with any university level books.

Yes,it is right,the eel suffers and it ends up with its death,just like several other so inhuman gruesom things,like fishing,hunting,eating any kind of meet,wearing leathershoes,a leatherjacket,and so on.I am fully aware that eel-sex is as far from consesual as the things I pointed just out,but what you are doing in your answer is equaling a human to an animal "Imagine you would be..."I think that is wrong.
I find it very sad that you closed my posting within an hour or so,because,there MAY be other people on this board who do share my obsession,allthough as I allready pointed out,I know it to be quite uncommon.
I did not post my topic to offend anyone,all I wanted to start was an open discussion about this matter,knowing that people who are taking sex with dogs or horses for normal are quick to judge among people who are having a different preference.

I will say this only one more time......we do NOT condone the "use" of ANY creatures that will end up in death for our own sexual pleasure. If you continue to pursue this subject, you will no longer be welcome on this forum, eel-lover.

This is the policy of the board, and we WILL enforce it.

No we are not, we are not condoning some thing that is abusive, plain and simple. If you love them why the hel* would you do some thing that is harmfull to them?
It makes no sense, as for discussion what discussion?, we all know the damage it does, what more needs to be said? there realy is no justifying abuse, if you go to the fish market and get a dead one, then I realy doen't know what to say as necraphelia isn't my thing, I'd leave that to some one ells to cover. but live eels its abuse in every context.

Preferance? So let me get this right, if its my preferance to boil live things in oil no one should knock it? No that would be sick as it would be torture, nothing deservs to suffer that kind of pian, I have been burnt by acid since I work with all sorts of them, and I know the pain, I sujest you put a couple drops of muriatic acid (Hydrochloric) on your hand to see it for your self. Empathy is a big thing. I am actualy irrated you try to use preferance to justify any thing short then torture to the animal, IF you love them, youd get them a nice big high quality tank, that they can live in happily and gaze at them through the glass, its hands off but again if you love them, thats the only way to be with them.

This post has been edited by Allan on Dec 27 2005, 03:57 PM

maybe you need to take a little time to read the rules?

5.1.3 post anything depicting harm to people or animals ie: blood death vomit etc.
5.1.4 post anything depicting rape or involunentary bondage

I am very sorry,but there are a few things I can´t stand to be left unsaid.First,if someone says "I love chicken,fish,or whatever" he probably does not mean it in a sense the chicken,fish.... wants to be loved.
Second,you say I should do the self experiment and dropping a little acid on my hand.Luckily enough this did not happen to me till now,but I can Imagine that it realy hurts.What do you wanna say with that...Do I have to feed one or two fingers to a pig to know what it feels like being eaten by another creature?
Third:You say it is wrong to use and kill an animal for sexual pleasure.Then why is it not wrong to use and kill it for being warm(making a jacket) not beeing hungry (meat or eggs,milk,chesse,you get the point.
Fourth:You say if it would be your preference to boil an animal alive in hot oil,someone should knock it.Ok,so when was the last time you visited a slaughterhouse and at least tried to stop in any way what was going on there.
If that posting you did is not the finest explenation of hypocrisy I don´t know what else.
Last thing is,that you are saying that all members in this forum (I don`t have the number present,sorry) are sharing your opinion about that,not mine.
Well,freedom of speach is realy not everybodies cup of tea,as I knew before.
Maybe you should go to a "normal" sex related chatroom or forum and post that you are into dogs (or horses)You´ll find that the answers you will get there are very much alike to what you are telling me.

You've said what you had to say.....now go away.....shoo!! Buh bye

I was going to say something about his posts too, but since that person is now banned...nevermind! ^_^



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*Slaps head* some people truely are idiots *Shakes head* for any of you who are wondering, any desant sluaghter house does it quick n painless, what he is discribing is slow and torturous to the animal, aka He is one of the rar ones that truely NEEDs help. This is sade as it gives us all a bad rep, and as such should not be tolerated for a multitude of reasons, the main one is he thinks abuse is fine.

but enough with it.

I'll continue adding on to the thread as I have time availible..

First off I want to thank Allan for taking the time to do this thread for South. I wish you the best in your new business venture.

I raise cockatiels and know how fragile my birds are. I love them as if they were my children. Ok, um, I live alone and they are my children. There I said it. :wub: I can't picture any man using his "massive" (I put that in quotes as it would be massive to my babies) tool on them. I would certainly hope that they peck whoever it is so hard to draw blood.

Amphibians: I remember catching frogs when I was a young girl. I still enjoy petting them even now. I swear I did not know I was hurting them. I will never touch one again and will admire them without touching them. Before I moved to the apartment I am in right now, I had a river out back of my house. I loved going fishing and watching the frogs and toads hop around my feet.

Thank you so much for the information Allan. A 10 vote from me.
Thank you to the mods for disposing of eel lover. Great job. I will giving you a 10 as well.