can I see that clip you were talking about :wub: :wub: :rolleyes:

Great post. Had always heard about people doing chickens but had my doubts it could really be done without killing the chicken. Thanks form information.

Once again we are provided with a welth of accurate information. :beer:

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Wow. Now this is quite the interesting subject. ^..^ Lot's of things to think about, that's for sure. It's a good thing to see this thread here too! It's very important that people know the dangers of having any kind of sexual relationship with an animal (escpecially non-mammal).

The problems faced is that we, as mammals have much different bodily systems than avians and reptiles and amphibians. Most people aren't familiar with how their bodies work. I'm not an expert and I don't know how sex affects most species as my experience has been pretty much limited to dogs and horses. But perhaps I can highlight some of the things I do know.

First, it's completely right that using an eel for pleasure is just stupid. I don't understand how people can like that. If the eel is a live at all, it's most likely going to die for various reasons. the oils and acids and such in the skin and just exposure to air. Not good.

Frogs are another good thing to mention. I think most of you are mistaking frogs to including toads. They are different. Toads are more commonly picked up by people, but they have normal skin more or less and not the mucous membranes. So, it probably would not be harmful to pick up a toad....but a bit of a warning, they 'do' like to piss on you. :P

About avians, it's not a good idea to think of penetrating a bird. Most are not designed for it. I was reading someone saying there was a vid of a guy having sex with a duck. Well, that would be more believable than a hen. Ducks are one of the few birds that do actually have a penis that penetrates and thrusts during mating. Also like Emu's and Ostriches. Swans would be another bird that has a penis or penis-like organ rather. But one would still have to be rather careful with any avian like that. I imagine using one's finger or tongue to stimulate a bird would be fine, but penetration with most birds is 'not' fine...

Now with reptiles...This comes with a few complications. I've seen vids of a guy with a large python. I imagine it's fine with larger reptiles. I'd be a little worried about personal safty. hehe. But I imagine sex with larger reptiles is more or less fine. But understand that most reptiles have softer penises or hemipenes. Most reptiles (Though, certainly not all) don't really thrust much into the female. Generally, once they're inside, they stay there and the female does the rest of the work then on. From what I have seen, lizards and snakes are like this. It also seems that that is the way it is for most species with hemipenes. However, I've noticed that those with one penis (crocodilians, turtles, etc.) tend to be more rigid and do actually thrust while mating.

I'm not saying that having sex with a reptile or other non-mammal is fine. But I imagine in many cases, it can be done without harm to the creature you're with. But you 'need' to know what you're doing. And it needs to be a fairly large species. Unless you've worked with reptile a long while, I wouldn't suggest thinking of trying anything of the sort anyways.

I hope this has been at least a little bit informative. I'm sure I've left things out. But if there's any questions, perhaps I can help answer some of them to the best of my knowledge. Though, I'm not an expert, I've read many things about many creatures. I've been studying biology and zoology for a fair while and have taken a good interest in Ethology, which is a study of animal behavior typically in their natural habitat. Ultimately, I would love to study the behavior and use of sounds and movement of dolphins and cetaceans in general. But finding a job that does that that I could qualify for is not such an easy thing to find.

This post has been edited by Phiner on Mar 17 2008, 07:10 AM

any bird/reptile can be pleasured just not fully penetrated by human cocks. just softly use your fingers. As for fish and water type creatures I am very uncertain that their is a safe way other if than milking them and thats just about all you can do <_< . wish I knew how to make it with a croc but their not enough information to even start and I have no clue how the a croc would allow that

amphibians?? is that possible? I have heard of ancients egyptians mating with nile crocs as a ritual.

Thank you for this post. I hope it will clear some people's mind about hurting an animal for sexual purposes.

COWS DO NOT DIE FOR MILK OR CHEESE!!!!!!!!!
And I feel I should also state that Im not interested in any pussy that is2small but the title on this post made me look to see what was goin on. I cant understand how anyone could get any enjoyment whatsoever from the pain and suffering of any living organism. Now dont get me wrong Im not sayin to stop killin the cows for beef and leather or anything like that cause I cant go longer than half a day without eating meat but like was previously stated any decent slaughterhouse kills the animal as quick and painless as possible but I have to disagree with eel-lovers "preference" as he said it was cause harming an animal just so you can get sexual pleasure is wrong on every levels no matter how you look at it and also like was previously stated makes the rest of us look bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel like I have made my point. Feel free to pm me if you want to discuss anything or want me to elaborate or explain anything and I will do my best to help anyone and everyone with any problem.

I noticed that one of this weeks caledonian movies is very relevant to this subject. While not something that I'm interested in (or turned on by) personally, a man having sex with a female snake was definitely new in my book.

This whole thread was kind of upsetting with the eel information and member. I am glad that he is gone. I am sad to think however of him doing that to many eels. I wish people were not so cruel.

I believe that it's a defense mechanism to just bring up "what about you and your purchases of leather shoes" etc....yes, but what are YOU doing? Rationalizing something means you know you're doing something wrong.

Ick. Poor eels :(

Thanks for these threads but i couldn't think of having sex with birds or reptiles :sick:

This post has been edited by Theredbaron15 on Oct 6 2008, 04:27 PM

I am a biologist and herpetologist, so I speak from a background of knowledge and experience (non sexual)

Amphibians - definite no-no, as stated their skin is permeable and the chemicals in human secretions can harm them.

Snakes - there are not many snakes that grow large enough to accommodate even a finger never mind a human organ, from my experience of dealing with large snakes the only two available in the pet trade that I would say grow large enough are the reticulated python and the Burmese python - the retic can grow up to 33ft and the Burmese about 25. easily large enough to kill a man.

Burmese pythons are known for being placid, whereas retics are known for being unpredictable.

Snakes are 'probed' to discover their sex, this involves gently sliding a lubricated metal probe into one of the inverted hemepenes of a male snake - with a large enough snake it could maybe be possible to 'probe' with the male organ, however keeping hold of a snake large enough to do that with would take a significant number of people. (the recommended number is one for the first 6ft of snake and an additional person for each additional 2ft - a snake large enough to be penetrated by a person would be approximately 15-20ft - any snake over 9ft can kill a man if he is handling it alone and it constricts)

The 'probing' would have to be done with a male snake as female organs are considerably shallower. However you could possibly penetrate a large female snake if you directed yourself up the body instead of down the tail as with the male, this would effectively be anal sex and large snakes are in my view robust enough to take the organ though thrusting could cause injury (again you have the handling issue)

So in conclusion - penetration is possible but not recommended!

Putting a snakes body inside the female orifice is obviously possible with smaller snakes, if the head is placed inside it's akin to putting it in a sealed plastic bag, even if it's only for a short time I think this equates to animal abuse - putting the body/tail of the snake but not the head inside would eliminate that problem but would probably stress the snake, however if the snake seems calm I see no real issue with this as long as good hygiene is observed.

Having a snake slide over your body exploring at will causes no harm to either party.

Lizards - The only lizards that any penetration could be considered with is iguanas and the larger varanus or monitor lizards, aside from the komodo dragon the most you could expect is finger penetration and again the males are better suited to this than the females because of the inverted hemepenes that run down both sides of the tail.

All reptiles carry salmonella as part of their natural gut flora so good hygiene is absolutely essential both before (washing the reptile) and after (washing yourself)

A comment was made earlier about breaking the bones of reptiles just by picking them up - this is a very inaccurate statement. Unless excessive force is exerted or the reptile is suffering from metabolic bone disease (MBD) it would be extremely difficult to break a reptiles bones from handling them.

Iguanas often suffer from MBD due to incorrect diet and lack of correct lighting.

This is my first time posting to this forum and i have to say its mainly because i found this thread more interesting than most (Not because it deals with sex with birds and reptiles because it seems self evident that in most cases that is impossible and/or harmfull) But just to say that its nice to see that people are being informed of their actions