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Posted: Dec 13 2005, 03:38 PM
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I'm getting a male puppy soon and am expecting an onslought of questions from people wondering if and when I am going to neuter him. I don't want to neuter him and I don't plan to. But are there are any good, compelling reasons not to neuter your pet? The people at the animal shelters have a long list of reasons TO neuter him, I just want one or two reasons NOT TO...

Thanks in advance for your help guys, and sorry if this post isn't in the right place.
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Posted: Dec 13 2005, 03:53 PM
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If anyone asking you happens to be a guy, ask him how he'd like his balls cut
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Posted: Dec 13 2005, 04:24 PM
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1. you want the option of using him as a stud for mating someday.

2. you think it is cruel or just dont want to make up your mind right now.

3. you plan on keeping him as a house pet and see no good reason to multilate him.

4. your afraid it will somehow affect his health or growth.


5. ask them if they are neutered

Hey its your dog you do not have to be politically correct.
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Posted: Dec 13 2005, 08:48 PM
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just tell them you don't believe in it and let it go at that. You have the same right to believe it shouldn't be done as someone else who believes it should.
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Posted: Dec 13 2005, 10:52 PM
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I do not approve of this at all. Sence should tell you that if you tell people what was suggested on this thread you will only have more problems. i assure you i would give you problems and have the dog removed from you.

There are alot of benifiets from neutring but it would be lost to tell you.

sence you got the puppy from a shelter, and i don't want you to have puppies, this answer will help. You should ask the vet for visectomy. this will steralize the dog and still have testicals. if asked say it is asthetic and the dog is still sterile.

I only help because you got the dog from a shelter.
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Posted: Dec 13 2005, 10:53 PM
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For me it's pretty easy.

The youngest is a "Show girl" - I can't enter her in conformation shows unless she's entire. That's one of the reasons I started by getting a "Show girl" - now I've found out I like it (though it can be hard to look up when there's a nice bitch directly in front ;) )

For the sibe (3 year old adoptee) I've got a couple of reasons to hand.

1. I already have to have everything in place to keep an in season bitch secure, so there's no extra hassle looking after two.

2. Most of the "must neuter" reasons centre on not adding to the unwanted dog problem, not what is best for the individual animal. As I keep my girls secure, I don't think the other reasons have me convinced yet.

3. I may be a paranoid conspiracy theorist, but I'd like to see some figures on complications with spay/neuter surgeries first. Everything I've seen just says they're "low incidence" but without actual numbers, how do I weigh it up against the risks of not doing it. Most of the professional comments seem to be from those with a vested interest in making everyone spay/neuter their pets. (try and find a study not sponsored by a major pet body or vet assoc :lol: )
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Posted: Dec 13 2005, 11:05 PM
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As an individual, i work with animals and i have seen alot of bad stuff happen to pets. And it may or may not happen, but it only has to happen once, then it;s too late. It is your choice, wrong or right.

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Posted: Dec 15 2005, 12:44 AM
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I've never been asked whether or not my dog was fixed. Why would anybody else really care? If they do ask, just tell them u chose not to.
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Posted: Dec 15 2005, 12:48 AM
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I have a really good reason


I said not to

But how leasons to me.

Just playing everone does. ;)
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Posted: Dec 15 2005, 02:06 AM
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it's my guess that we are going to find this subject quite divided -and that's fine -and everyone is more than welcome to express thier views - let's just be sure to not flame anyone for thier opinions - thanX :)
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Posted: Dec 15 2005, 04:50 AM
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I don't neuter my male because:

1: He's my stud dog

2: I'm hoping to Champion him out in Conformation(the dog has to be intact)

3: He's mine and I don't feel like cutting his balls off

4: I don't think he would appreciate me having his balls cut off

5: I am responsible enough to keep him away from other dogs in heat, so there is no reason to neuter him

6: There is a chance he can die on the operating table, no matter how slim

7: Because I said so
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Posted: Dec 15 2005, 10:09 AM
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I don't personally own a dog (though I'm currently living with my sister and she owns a big boxer)... but my family has always had cats. One thing I've noticed when we've had to neuter the males when we keep them is they turn out really girly and some times aggressive after it's done (proberly mad at my parents for having their balls cut off... why they took it out on me I dunno :P)
Anyway, my point is that I agree with Kitsui, get them sterilised and not neutered as the testis (balls for those who don't know) do have more functions that spunk creation... namely testosterone and other hormones
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Posted: Dec 15 2005, 10:09 AM
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Try this: "Neutering is so *last millenium*. My pup is already permanently sterile thanks to Neutersol."

If they question you further you can just quote the site's answers to such questions.

They may then try the "it has no effect on behaviour" angle:
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The FDA has stated that as with surgical castration, secondary male characteristics such as roaming, marking, aggression, and mounting may be displayed in animals who have received Neutersol injections.


Which of course is easy to counter by discussion of proper training of manners and instilling some self-control like all responsible owners should, throwing the "responsibility" line back at them.

I guess they could ask to see the certificate of this being done, but if it's a guy asking, you can just go enthusiastically into the details of the procedure and they'll probably be too busy wincing at "a 28 gauge needle is inserted into each testicle...." to insist :)

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Posted: Dec 15 2005, 10:56 AM
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In my case, I had one male dog, he was a good lad and mounted when he felt like it, we got a bitch and on the breeders advice got him done. Within weeks he went from a playful 6 year old with the attitude of a 2yr to an old boy of 10years. When people ask me about my new lad, he's 3 now I mention the above and tell them that I intend my dogs to pass their time as nature intended and that I won't harm my dogs for my convienience.

It just means I have to separate them once every 6 months or so.
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Posted: Dec 15 2005, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE (Faunak8 @ Dec 15 2005, 10:09 AM)
Try this: "Neutering is so *last millenium*. My pup is already permanently sterile thanks to Neutersol."

If they question you further you can just quote the site's answers to such questions.

They may then try the "it has no effect on behaviour" angle:
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The FDA has stated that as with surgical castration, secondary male characteristics such as roaming, marking, aggression, and mounting may be displayed in animals who have received Neutersol injections.


Which of course is easy to counter by discussion of proper training of manners and instilling some self-control like all responsible owners should, throwing the "responsibility" line back at them.

I guess they could ask to see the certificate of this being done, but if it's a guy asking, you can just go enthusiastically into the details of the procedure and they'll probably be too busy wincing at "a 28 gauge needle is inserted into each testicle...." to insist :)

Neutrsol was taken off the marked two years ago. I have tried to get some and it is no longer produced. It was not well recived and used. so it apparently was not worth making anymore, otherwise i would have offered that solution, and any shelter, no man with education would wence. the procedure is simple but must be done in dogs under 8 mos old.

I do not like breeders. I do not care if you remove the testicles because i am used to dealing with that sort of people, all i really ask is you at least visectamy to prevent puppies. you can later deal with the health issues, it's just job security for me.

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