IR night cameras are cheap. As are second generation night vision scopes for rifles. The INSTANT someone is suspicious that someone has been on their property at night (ESPECIALLY HORSE OWNERS), you'd better bet your ass that the person that lives there is thinking of a way to catch you or even kill you.

Fencehopping is a thrill, no doubt, but it's not worth your freedom/life. You only have to be caught once.

Well, i have quite same kind experiences like Ham.

Once got kicked by stallion right up from knee,
it wasn't direct hit, hitted sideways and only with one hoof.
That was lucky thing, bad was that i couldn't use stairs in a week.

Couple months ago got hitted in my left arm up from elbow.
I was scratching one of my black girls and suddenly i got hit in arm what was
intended to her, i falled right away in ground and that saved my life.
Next round came immediately with both rear hoofs and would hit my back...

About caring animals bring some results, 5 other girls came immediately
to look out my condition and if i was ok.
Taked several minutes to clear my head enough to get up.
Getting in the car was really painfull holding my arm, almost passed out several times.
Travelling in car to get caring was right from hell.
Did have to travel horizontal in seat to avoid passing out.
Lucky i did have driver that time.
Arm was about couple weeks useless for hard work.

Then there is several times that i have get stomped in my feets.
Here is one preview, very lightly stomped from my girl.

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The fact is...it's not your animal...
xeseryd...so just because a horse costs a lot of money and you can't afford one that then give you all the right to claim "poor-boy" status and trespass all you want...I don't think so. And you are being a little rediculous on that pricing...my girlfriends family is dirt poor..and they have two cows, a horse, a donkey, and several dogs.

Just because you are too impatient to care for an animal and to lazy to acquire the neccesities to have one does not give you the right to tresspass.

Just because girl is pretty doesn't give you the right to go up and touch her breast...or start groping her. Take a cold shower why don't you.


Muley you must not have animals of your own...because if you did you would understand the anger in some of these posts. I have two female sheps, if anyone decided they were gonna have a little quickie they'd have hell to pay from me. They'd be lucky if a hospital could treat them.

Why are there such violent responses...because we're FREAKIN ZOO'S! We LOVE our animals like children, like a husband, like a wife.

If any guy came up and just started feeling up my girlfriend he'd get the same wrath. And it woud be justified.


Now let's say I had a buddy who felt like I do about animals and made an attempt to make a friendship with me and one of my dogs. If I saw him taking such actions I would be much less angry...though I would tell him mine are off limits. Because a relationship was established...

I fence hopped too at one time...but my intentions were not to f*** and run....and after visiting this particular pasture for several weeks, I could hop over and visit with the alpha mare, the cut stallions, and walk amongst them with little stress to the animals.

I didn't know anything about alpha mares and the what not. I just observed their behaviour and very carefully approached them. It took all of 5+ hours the first night to get them to allow me to walk amongst them..let along approach. You really can't just hop over...stresses 'em out...they are prey animals...they get freaked out easily at night...and they will retailiate...as seen in the pics...even if they do feel ok with you.

Not once did I "fist" or anything more than petting...why? They weren't mine. I was there to enjoy their company...and to observe them.



The fact is if you can't afford one...if you don't live in an area that allows them...these things DO NOT give you the right to tresspass and fool around with someone elses animal. Animals are not going to resist sexual acts like humans do. In fact it's very easy to get an animal to allow sexual acts. But it is not your animal...you have no right to it, if the owner is ok with it then fine but if not then their wishes must be respected.

So I'm sure fence hoppers are gonna keep doing it and great....go ahead...don't expect and pitty from anyone when you get trampled or your face to face with a shotgun...even non zoos are very affectionate and protective of their pets...and a zoo is prolly gonna be even more so protective...cause it's not just a pet. I know I am.

Hi Everyone,

It's been a while since I have last posted. I am not a supporter of fence hopping but there have been some things said on this thread that I want to comment on since I last wrote.

Some posters have written about how they would shoot any fence hopper they caught. To those people I have this to say. Would you really do that? It is one thing to talk about killing someone, it is another thing to do it.

If you would shoot a fence hopper then how would you do it? Would try to shoot him as soon as you saw him in the dark while he is having sex with one of your horses, or would you get up close to shoot him and fire your loud gun really close to your horse? Or would you hold him at gun point and march him away and shoot him summary execution style? Would your conscience bother you afterward?

I could'nt shoot a fence hopper if all he did was plop down a bucket and was humping one of my mares. Personally I don't know what I would do. Read my earlier post for more on that.

This post has been edited by Grevy on Nov 28 2005, 02:40 AM

the thing i find weird about this thread is that the consensus seems to be from other threads ive read that animals should not be used just for sex, and if they are it is very, very wrong.

so it seems to me that "fence hopping" in and of itself would be an uncouth act towards the animal. Granted i guess, if the mare gets all hot and bothered it would stand that it would be ok to go ahead with it. But it seems if you're going to take the "animals shouldnt be used for sex" side of things, you really cant condone this guy

truth of it is i wouldnt mind being mounted by any male doggie, i was just making an observation though.

I think what is being said is that sex with your animal we are fine with...but you can't just take someone elses animal. It's not your place, only if the owner/mate gives you permission.

You don't have any right to fool with someone elses pet/lover...just your own, unless they've said you can.

Aside from the legal issue of trespassing, what right does the owner have to deny the horse to choose his/her own mates?

If you agree that an animal can consent to sexual contact to a person in the first place, how do you derive the right to deny the animal that choice?

Perhaps by virtue of being the animals caregiver and therefore having to deal with any fallout from the contact. Perhaps via the same authority that a man can deny his daughter contact with men while she is living on his property.

Anyway, while I can understand it, I'd have to say fencehopping crosses a number of legal an ethical lines. However, in a civil society violence against them is equally reprehensible.

I've had contact with other's animals without the owners permission, but never while present illegally. A bit like shagging the daughter on the sly; little more than being disrespectful.

Tell you what, if you ever get arrested for trespassing, just tell the :police: "But the horse said I could come over!"



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I have read every single response to the original post and will now give you my thoughts:

Have I fence hopped in the past? Definately
Will I do it in the future? Not now, knowing the types of trouble I could get into and also the biggest fact is that I have matured emotionally and financially.

I think that most all of us started having sex with someone else's animal. It may have been with stray dogs, like those posted in some of my earlier stories here or with a relatives dog or horse.

When I was younger than I am now, I was absolutely the horniest kid in the town. I would have settled for any dog, any horse any tail, human or non human. I think back on those days and realize that's just who I was when growing up.

I don't think that there is a need to physically hurt anyone that may have been caught with someone else's animal. We also need to realize that these people are also someones son, daughter, husband, wife, brother, sister father or mother. I would have been very willing to share my animal with someone that really needed to find out if he or she were truly into zoo sex. I would also have made absoluetly sure that the person was not hurting the animal by setting boundaries.

Now that I am mature, I would not think of ever borrowing an animal for the sake of my sexual pleasure. Though I admit, there have been times when dogs were walking on the beach in front of my old home and I invited them in. If the animal consented, then we may have had some fun, but I would NEVER attempt to penetrate an animal that wasn't mine or didn't want it.

I think that this topic elicits a lot of emotion and anger. I fully understand that some of us feel that our animals are truly our partners and we would not want our partner abused in any way, shape or form. I also know that there are people reading this thread that will never post a reply, just becasue they don't want to be exposed in the zoo/beast community as a possible rapist or one that would hurt an animal in any way.

As far as horses go, I have had a few experiences with them, again through fence hopping. I always knew that my main attraction was for K9 but had to experience equines to make certain that I was not as attracted to them. I found out that I was not, mainly due to the fact that I was kind of afraid of them.

I hope that we as Zoos, can be tolerant of what any person posts here and can accept thier opinions, whether or not we agree with them. Look at this forum and what it has done for our community. It has allowed all of us to come of of our closet and be with other like minded people. I don't think that anyone that would love an animal unconditionally could ever harm a human either, as they happen to be animals also.

All I can say is that I hope that anyone that has ever fence hopped has never hurt an animal intentionally or otherwise and that some of us would be willing to help others that may not be able to have thier own lovers.

Anyone that would like to discuss this on a more intimate basis is always welcome to email me:)

Couldn't of said it better Danethruster. people are so quick to forget how they started out. I jump fences all the time and ive been seen but never caught. and people dont even think your out trying to screw their pets. they think your tyring to gank their stuff. thank god the times i was seen i was only stealthin around buildings to get to where i wanted, not screw their animals. but the point is fence hopin is fine for awhile then u should grow up and get your own animal. besides do u really think the animals loves u when u only come at night to screw it.

BTW. buy a game ear helps u pick up on other people or animals around u so u dont get walked apon. last thing u want is to be walked up on by a big pissed bull who is sayin get away from my females.

I think you need to steath run so you don't make noise :ph34r: . Go with the lader. P.S don't get caouht. :ph34r:

Well, I'll put my two cents in here:

I have always been a zoophile, for as long as I have been sexual. The thing is that I'm most sexually attracted to horses. I don't view horses as do most. I've tried to explain this to my wife, but she doesn't understand it at all. Maybe some of you here will.
In my mind a horse is almost majestic. They are a very beautiful creature, so proud and strong. I have nothing but respect for them. I also find them highly sexually attractive. I'm not just talking about their rear ends either. They do have beautiful genitals, but as a whole entire creature they are beautiful and wondrous.
My problem is that I am still, although 36 yrs old, unable to have one for various reasons. I will be able to have one someday, but until then my only hope to satisfy a need is to fence hop. The reason for this is quite simple:
There are no stables near here with which to gain access by volunteering my services, and I'm not going to stop and ask owners of any horses that I see while driving down the road if I can help them with their horses. What would YOU think if a stranger stopped and asked you to let them help with your horses for free? Would you think there was some alterior motive? I sure would. I would be suspicious of that person from minute one. That leaves only hoping to meet another zoo that would be willing to share. That is far easier said than done. As all of you know, zoos are very reluctant to let themselves be known, especially to strangers in a face to face situation. So I must resort to fence hopping until such a time that I can buy my own animal.
Now, I must say that different fence hoppers will have different motives. For me, I feel a need to satisfy my sexual interest in horses, but I also care for the animals almost as if they were my own, maybe even more as I've seen some animals that have been neglected horribly by their own owners. I have a "kit" made up for fence hopping, although I have yet to use it. My kit consists of the following:
A bucket to stand on should I happen to get lucky and find a mare in the mood and for carrying the rest of the supplies, a ziplock bag of warm soapy water, a bag of clean water to rinse with, and a washcloth and handtowel to wash and dry the genitals before any contact, a bag of apples to take as treats to potential lovers,and a small bag of grain and a couple of sugar cubes for an extra treat. That is my kit.
Notice that my kit consists of no rope or bindings as I would leave before resorting to using any of these tactics. Even with this kit, before any sexual attempts I will spend at least 30 minutes petting and soft talking a potential lover, even if I'm in someone elses barn. Then if I make a sexual attempt and am turned down by the mare I'll leave at once. For me to press on the mare will have to be willing to stand and let me place the bucket behind her, mount her and have consensual sex. I will never tie someone elses animal to satisfy myself. I've never had to!
My opinion is that different fence hoppers would have to be dealt with depending on the situation. Someone causing harm to the animals or the property should be dealt with differently than the consciencious hopper.
I can only speak on my behalf here, but I know if I jump a fence the animals are treated with respect by me as is the owners property. I will not steal the owners belongings, I will not go through the barn looking at their possessions, I will not leave gates open (in fact I won't open gates, I'll climb over to avoid messing with someones gate closures), and I'm always sure to leave things just as I found them. Most importantly, I know I treat someones animal with respect by never forcing myself on anything. Yeah, I'm there for sex obviously, but not without proper foreplay and proper preperations to prevent infections and such, and not without payment to the creature that let me have my way.
I guess I'm just saying that the punisment for such would have to depend on the circumstances. How would you guys really treat a fence hopper that did respect your property and animals? Would you treat this person the same as a person who came into the barn and shoved a broom handle into your mare while having it tied and bound? I guess even in fence hopping there are those with honor and those without. There's just a big difference in someone who shows up with a roll of rope and a broom handle and someone who shows up with wash supplies, treats for the animals, and a lot of respect for the creatures and the property.
I'm not condoning fence jumping here, just explaining my own motives and behaviors. Any comments welcome!
Thanx!

:ph34r: please don't.

That was a great story, a-lot more than two cent thow :lol:

Back when I lived in PA, I had a direct neighbor that ran a small farm (about 8 horses). You could say that my first jaunt went just as teh original poster's story, but mine ended a bit painfully.

On the walk back from my little "session", I really couldn't find a way to get out/around the high-tension (and electrifed) cables. They were teh dual ones (I had to touch both cables to get shocked, but the bottom one all you had to to was touch the ground and that wire). Well, you could say that I had one hell of a time getting back home through the cornfield with an arm that didn't want to work. Not only that, but the fact that doing this at night (and during the day when they weren't home) really made me need to find an alternative.

We all know of the styrofoam pipe covers we use to cover our copper pipes so they don't freeze? A set of those over the wires when you run in can really save you the pain and misery of that.

Said neighbors also had two sweet dogs that really never barked at me either. The dogs would ususally run in the fields at night and I'd just play with them sometimes. Real sweet dogs (a beagle and a basset hound), and I miss them moreso the horses.

But yeah, a high-voltage tester can be a REAL help when hopping unknown fences. SOMETIMES (if it is not marked with a marker saying it's hot), you can see easily if it is a hot cable. Look at where it is connected to the post. If the cable has no sleeve over it and has direct contact to the wood, then odds are it is not hot. If a few are, and a few have a thick plastic sleeve on 'em, DO NOT TOUCH THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE. They hurt. ALOT. If they all have sleeves on them, be careful and act as if they are all hot. The voltage tester is ususally easy to find. Yard Sales are easy places to find.

Enjoy, have a happy (and safe) experience!