Glad to see OP was banned.

Fence hopping is just the use of animals for sexual purposes. There is no love or genuine affection there; the fence-hopper is merely using them for sexual gratification as one might use a fleshlight or other inanimate masturbatory device.

I am very much a zoo, but just using animals for sex is wrong, as sex with humans is not a native impulse. If it is with one's own pet whom one cares for, loves, and is loved by in return, then it is an understandable and beautiful thing if one takes it to the next level.

If I found a fence-hopper on my property, they would be shot, incapacitated, and taken to the police. I would personally see to it that their name is ruined.

Nobody but the admin knows why the OP was banned. Could've been for something totally unrelated to this topic.

But again, this can be said anytime, anybody, gets caught or is exposed for practicing bestiality. Is the reaction ever positive? No

If you get caught fence hopping or with your own animal zoo's are still gonna suffer one way or another.

I can understand the thrill but fence hopping is just wrong.

hold up, have you ever looked through the sights of a gun and lined it up on a mans head and pulled the trigger? chances are you havent and in the situation you have a gun in your hands and you have a fencehopper at your mercy, chances are your not gonna shoot him, talk is cheap....just cause they fencehop does it mean they are bad people? do they not have family who would mourn them? a wife? children? you will think those exact thoughts in the moment, and u wont shoot. period. and if u do......you will lead a fucked up life full of guilt and sleepless nights..I have alot of buddies who have been through this, they were in the army, were they would have killed someone trying to kill them and they still have guilt and remorse for the godless terrorist they killed who would have slashed their throats in a heartbeat.....

sorry to go on like this but it pains me to see people talk of killing as an easy task when ive seen what it can do to people.

True enough, but your chances of being caught are way less with your own animal behind the locked doors of your own house or barn, and you already know where the owner is..........






This post has been edited by neandernitz on Apr 29 2009, 01:49 PM

Funny thing about that; I'm not one of your friends from the army.

Another funny thing is how hundreds if not thousands of shootings happen every day, despite our supposed thoughts that would stop us even in the heat of the moment.

But anyways, would I really? I don't know, but a fence-hopper on my property would not enjoy his time. That much I know for sure.

But anyways, when I wrote that I'd had a bad day, a headache, and a particularly irritating phone call just a few minutes before, so I wasn't really in the most generous of moods, and in my haste I forgot one of the most important points:

fence hopping is trespassing on someone else's property and as such increases the danger of getting caught exponentially, and getting caught means punishment rained down upon us who are being smart and only doing it in the privacy of our own homes with our own animals. I don't want even more laws to be passed against what I do in my own house because some thrill-seeking jackass got himself caught.

Like I said talk is cheap.....

Look, it's all been said, and talk isn't cheap at all. You just don't appear to be listening.

I had a mare lose a foal inexplicably late in her term this year. What if some jackass hopped the fence and I caught him shoulder deep fisting my pregnant mare?

You are an asshole (and not an animal lover at all) to take liberties with an animal you do not know enough about, and you can readily cause catastrophic injury with your innocent yet perverse viewpoint.

Horse owners have to deal with a lot of grief from clueless animal lovers even ignoring the zoo community. I can't fucking emphasize this enough. We have to keep our animals safe and we also have to try and keep you safe or we all end up in court arguing over "attractive nuisance" because you or your family will sue. Easier and much less trouble/expense to shoot your ass. Believe it. Ask your local sheriff.

Quick laundry list of actual stupidity I've observed:
proud father lifted his infant up over a 6' fence and dangled it over the fence in the face of a 2yo mare...
small child climbs into a paddock with 2 mares and a foal while adults are present and say nothing...
no end of people trying to feed our horses with nary a thought to whether horses actually eat what they offer...
standing on the top rail of the fence and leaning dangerously far in to take pictures while horses are excited running and bucking...
bringing a stallion up onto the property nose to nose with a mare in heat...
the list is endless

Get a clue

---Not saying for an instant that what you say isn't true (it is) or that I don't agree (I do), but Please never call names; get a Mod to change that if you can. Hate to see you get warn points for a slip of the tongue--
like some of us might have..... :whistling:

U are so damn wrong.
For many Zoos fence hopping is the only possibility to get a little closer to those animals.
It depends on the people who do it but i certainly know, there are many examples where there IS love.Even if its not ur own horse or whatever.

So what?, I say that it's hard to kill a man and you would regret doing it after somehow turns into me being an animal hater?? Were did you pick this up in my post??? If I had animals And I caught someone fencehopping hell ya I would be pissed! But I wouldn't kill the guy, am I a bad person cause I'm saying I wouldn't kill someone? No I would attemp to get him under citizen arrest, kick him around a bit and call the cops.

How bout you think a bit before you go calling someone names for no reason, not sure were u got any of that out of my post

Well, now, see: There's the difference in perspective of where you live--
In some places, getting scuffed up over something done to someone else would be normal and expected.
Other places where you can't take a shower without 2 lawyers watching to see if you slip on a wet spot, you can get sued for everything you worked all your life for. Smek someone around, and they sue you and take your home. Case some years ago, a burglar got shot in the legs climbing thru someone's window. Sued the homeowner because his injury prevented him from pursuing his profession (burglary). Won, too. The homeowner's neighbors chipped in and bought his farm back for him afterward. Not too long ago, they changed the law. Kill someone to defend your property, you're good. Dead people don't sue.

Just saying, remember things are different depending on where you are.......

Read as bigger picture *you* and less personal.

Talking to everyone on the fence hopping side and not merely *one person* though *your post* prompted my response.