Fence hopping. Never done it... never will. To me fence hopping is the exact same as breaking and entering. In fact... it is. Becouse if you get cought, you won't only be charged with animal cruelty, but also with breaking and entering.
People doing this obviously do this strictly for the sex and in some way this is close to rape. Sure, the horse doesn't kick you to the other side of the stable, so everything is fine. But would you break into the house of that fine blonde you spotted at the mall and just have sex with her? You wouldn't? So why do it to a horse then?

You left evidence...abort that idea forever.

Funny story...I hopped the fence once when I was a teen, while walking up to the horse I noticed someone was there, we noticed each other at the same time. The other guy thought I was the owner and said he was looking for his dog...and ran off. That spooked me forever. As much as I want to do it again, I have too much too loose. People in my town would think of me as an animal rapist...

This post has been edited by WETS on Sep 3 2005, 10:27 PM

Heh, sounds like he was up to the exact same you were :P.

I must say alot of replies here don't make sense to me as I don't want your parental advice, but anyway I am probly not going to go there again for awhile as I want to lay low.

This post has been edited by josh2xx on Sep 4 2005, 12:34 AM

Saying that I also disapprove would not even begin to describe how I feel about it..... :angry: and :mad: and...

I really would like to ask how YOU would feel is some stranger came on to your porperty and try to have sex with one of your animals (or for any other reason), but from what I can read from your posts so far, seems you may not care much about these horses other than something to have sex with. You already showed us that you don't have a problem about trespassing on someones property so you can do anything you want.

If I caught you trespassing on the farm, beleive me you would care. And if someone was trespassing, I would immediatly know about it. You are good at stealth? I know exactly how I leave all my equipment and the condition of my horses, so if someone was doing anything around my stable or to any of horses I take care of, I will know about it. And there is a good chance that you would not even have a clue you were found out until your next little night-trip when you find someone waiting for you.

I will tell you what a fence-hopper did once, and why I am posting all of this. One night while someone was trespassing on the farm I worked at, they did not properly close and latch some of the gates to the turnout fields they passed through. That same night several horses got loose. One ended up with a very bad bowed tendon and needed surgery to save the horses life. That one was a 9 year old palomino pony that a 12 year old jr. member of the club owned and ridden for over three years....that pony was her best friend and because of some :censored: ing stranger felt like they can just sneak around the farm to play with the horses, that jr. member and her family had to make a decision to either spend months of rehab and thousands of dollars to save their pony or to have the animal euthanized. The pony was saved but that jr. member never could ride the animal in shows again and it was almost a year later before she could even do trail rides with that animal.

Seeing what happened to that pony and what it did to that girl who loved her animal soo much, if I did find that person, I would kill that :censored:

You also posted that you lost your little ladder in the turnout? That ladder itself could injure a horse that got a leg through it while running in the field, in the dark...that alone tells me how much you really care about these horses, just leaving something like that in their turnout.

You are looking for some advice on fence hopping, here is mine....DON'T TRY IT AGAIN.

Otherwise you may find yourself in the hospital one day with your nuts kicked in, trying to explain to the doctor why you have a hoof-shaped bruise in your groin area!


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I really would like to apologize to everyone else here for going off, but I just had to post this.

He's right you know. I'm not into horses at all, never worked with them or anything but I know plenty of people who taught me stuff about them. Fastest way to get yourself killed is to attempt sex with a horse you don't know and who doesn't want it.
I didn't want to say this in my earlier post becouse I hate judging people I don't know. But since hambletonian already did that for me, I can savely say I agree with him 100%.

If your so ignorant to ignore the opinion of people who know what they are talking about just shows you indeed don't give a shit about the horses or their owners. All you are looking for is an alternative to your right hand. If you want the suspence of the risk of getting caught while having sex, go to Las Vegas and visit a street hooker.

You want to lay low? You know what I realy don't understand? You know what you do is wrong, you know that the owner doesn't like it and you know that if you get caught you'l be in a shit load of trouble or even get killed. Yet you continue to do it.
It's people like you that give zoophilia a bad name... even tho I don't think I can call you a zoophile. You are by definition, not by prejudgement, an animal rapist.

I'm with the rest of you on this.
josh2xx - as others have asked, would you like it if someone went onto your property and had sex with your animals? I don't think so. And if you are going to fence hop, make sure you don't leave evidence (ie - your ladder)

I agree with you TheTiger on your last line, although harsh, it's true.

hambletonian, i'm sorry to hear what happened when you worked on that farm. But i'm glad the horse was saved.

:huh:

you don't understand English maybe :rolleyes:

Pick_7 has CLEARLY explained to you that no one is exempt from replying with thier feelings experiences and opinions in the thread - if you didn't want to hear the reverse side -then you shouldn't have opened pandora's preverbial box here -this is your LAST warning - make another inappropriate reply and I will cut off your tongue :diablo:

apparently you to need to mature in MANY areas <_<

I have to agree with everyone that said it is a bad idea and for several reasons.

1. Those horses that you are messing with could be multi-million dollar horses.
Now whilst you may think, 'why would someone have expensive horses out here?' Racehorses, quality dressage horses and resting studs are quite often put in fields to spell (rest from their competative season) and heal. Those horses that you could be playing with could be worth more than you could earn in your lifetime (For those who do watch the Arabian sales, one Polish Arabian went for AU$512,144 in August 2004 from the Janow Podlaski stud).

2. Even a person skilled in reading horses doesn't check on them at night, even with a torch and a good moon unless it's necessary.
Now I'm not going to deny it, horses are dangerous. They're usually about 450-500kg and they have hooves, teeth and heads and they do use them to communicate points very precisely (I've been bitten on the leg by a horse and I know quite well how much it hurts). Even with a torch, it's hard to see and hear horses at night and I stay close to the fence so I can jump over if I feel threatened by a horse at night. At night, horses are jumpier and more likely to strike out in fear. If something does spook the horses whilst you're around, you could get kicked and/or trampled.

3. What one would do, others would probably do to.
Those people who have sex with horses, I don't have anything against if it's their own horses, I will personally turn a blind eye or ask questions to further my studies into equine sexuality. Whilst I will perform studies that are sexually related to my mares (no personal sexual contact, I need RSPCA approval for the studies I want to do), I would not condone others having sex with my horses, be they stallion or mare and whilst my actions would seem extreme, I treat all horses like my family (and I'd personally prefer to meet those that want to be one of my mare's BFs, purely so I can say NO to them) and should I catch anyone doing something like that, I will shoot to maime, be it a minor injury or something more permanent. This may seem a bit severe, but when you hear stories about bad zoos that put out ciggarettes on the rumps of hobbled mares that a group is gang raping, I do not feel I have time to get to know this person before the bullet makes contact. I appologise if I do sound aggressive, but I do have a very, very strong connection with horses and I hate to see horses abused.

My understanding is that zoos that do have sexual relations with their horses have spent years getting to know and understand their horses and they know their signals very well. The random mare you see in the field may not even like human related sexual contact. Sometimes mares just want the stallion that's teasing her to get his job done.

I do appologise again if I do sound aggresive on the subject, I respect horses heavily

I can not agree with you more. My Muffin mare has been a big part of my life for almost 17 years....and yes, we do know each other very well. But thinking back, Muffin probably knew exactly who I was (a Zoo') from the very first day we met, long before I realized it myself.

Eh fence hoping seems a little bit to riskey for my blood. I'll wait till I get animals of my own that are intrested in sex, but if you must do it I guess it's better if you don't get your self caught or bullet in your bum. I've read in aomw places that dark green is a harder color to spot in the dark. I guess it has to do with black standing out on black. I'm not sure.

I will admit that I have fence-hopped a couple of times for a horse, well, gelding.

Every time i ever saw him when i drove by he was in the field - pouring with rain,
winter etc. Made me feel sorry for him and, being somewhat of a lonely guy back
then i went there a few times just to talk to him and make friends.

One time i did go into the field because i didn't see him and then saw this shape
coming towards me rather fast. Climbed back over the fence, rather scared,
and the horse just stopped at the fence, nickered and wanted to be petted.

But, having said that, i respect other peoples animals and won't do anything
beyond pet them unless the owner knows and trusts me, and says i should
let the dog have his fun.

I belive this to be my first post. I have lurked here for a while, and felt moved to reply.
A couple notes.
Leaving any item at all behind does two things. First, it leaves a clue as to a persons intent. IE "what would a person need a ladder for way out here in the pasture"? Secondly, unless you were wearing gloves to handle the ladder during, and since its purchase, you have left most likely a complete set of fingerprints.
As a secondary note, to the best of my knowledge, most ladders are either yellow, orange, or a polished/brushed finish. The latter being the most common.
This also points to: What would a person need with a black ladder out here? They would not recognize it as belonging to themselves, and could reasonably assume the color was for blending at night.
Also, for night concealment, either woodland camo, or night/desert is usually preferable to black, as even in darkness, black creates an outline. (Unless you're in total darkness, and then color is irrelevant anyway) With the availability of NVD's (night vision devices) they are now affordable to almost everyone. Your camo will not do very well since your eyes will glow very prominantly regardless. Take the word of an accomplished marksman with above-mentioned equipment.
Finally, consider this: There are states that allow a trespasser to be shot without question or hesitation. Not for any offence other than trespassing itself. In a state where this is acceptable, consider the police call. Person trespassing at night, wearing black, carrying/using black ladder (painted) with, or without pants around ankles, lying dead, shot by homeowner. It could be used for the assumed sexual activity with the horses, or possibly to gain access to the residence. Either way, end result is the same: Trespasser dead, homeowner rightfully defending his/her property.
Because the speed of a rifle round is greater than the speed of sound, the target will not even be able to hear the report of the rifle.
Very serious recommendation. Unless you truely do not value your existence, please find other sources for sexual activity and excitement.
If you have animal relations as your life choice/destiny, then by all means: Decide what animal you prefer. Work to make it reality. Of course, then there is no excitement in possibly being caught, but then there is excitement in being able to have "unlimited play" that is well worth all efforts.

just going to drop my two cents


I personal have had expernace of a fench hopper on a non zoo's friends farm
These fu :censored: wits decided it would be fun to fist the mare with there dirty hand's and they probably used a implament aswell. Hence 3 days later my pal lost a great mare and its unborn foal to blood posing.
How do we no it was a fench hopper 2 days later another local mare had to be shot as some twa :censored: had ruptured its internal organs by using a broom handel as a fliping didlo

I no that the vast majoiry of fench hoppers are zoo lovers i am afied that if i ever see any one at the back of one of my ladies at night as i do check on them at least once during the night then god help me i shall not be held responsable for my acctions

I am very sorry to hear about this and it really hurts me to know there are people out there that would do anything like that! :(

Maybe, just maybe this is the BIG reason that many of the bestiality laws were created. When stuff like this happens and gets in the local news, I can see why most in the public would place anyone having sex with animals in the same category as animal cruelty, and also group this with things like rape, child porn and the like.....fence hopping, not good! :angry:

This post has been edited by hambletonian on Sep 6 2005, 08:56 PM