It's really dawning on me these last couple of days my up bringing and young adult life must have been really odd. I've never bothered my whole life to keep it secret from anyone except for professional reasons. I realize most of the conversations I've had were half or all in jest, and my friends were probably a lot more crude then most, but I've never hidden it. I assumed we just don't talk about sex including heterosexual and masturbation, and when it was O.K. to talk about it, anything was fine. I knew in the past few years I was outside my element, but I didn't know how much. Is it really that taboo in western, civilian culture? I can see it's out of place, and I never wanted people watching and such anyway. Is this true with all forms of sexuality, or just us? Are you talking they might make comments in the breakroom and rib you a little, or are you talking about burning your house down, men in sheets with pickforks and torches? I'm starting to get a little nervous. :crazy:

Of course, like I've said before, out of politeness, I don't talk about it. I always knew it was taboo. I'm just not sure how big of a taboo yet.

Can't say that I do. People around here aren't too understading. All just the same stereotypical people who live their same drone lives day in and day out. I've only told one person about it ever, and he's not saying anything. Though aside from here, I doubt I'll tell anyone else other than my wife in due time.

no i have not told anyone. Not for my lack of wanting to, I do. I just dont have the right person i can confide in. That is a large reason i keep comming back here.

Well, I don't go around preaching it but I am very proud of my lovelife-lifestyle and I won't hide the truth about me if someone genuinely asks out of curiosity.

It is a tough thing to do, that is for sure.

When I first found out I was "zoo", I didn't dare tell anyone.
Then, as I got older, I felt like I was always having to hide in my own world and it hurt that I couldn't share such a wonderful and emotionally satisfying life with friends and family.
I started hinting at it by asking friend's different questions like "What do you think about people who love animals so much that they would make love with them too?" and "I saw a wild video with a woman and a dog... what do you think of that?".

Needless to say I got alot of laughs, some snears, and many asked if I did it too.
Well, like I said, I won't hide the truth about me so I told on myself to alot of friends.
Most of them I found out were not real friends at all because if someone is a real friend, they don't become an enemy after years just because they find out a small piece of info on you later. True friends will like you for who you are, plain and simple. I got ridiculed by a few, laughed at by a few, even had to fight one or two but it still didn't change my feelings for my furry pals. Actually, I think it made my feelings stronger for them.

My mother knew about me and Christy [a Tennessee Walker Girl Friend] and though she didn't like it at first, after I explained to her my reasons and the feelings I had, she understood. She may not have ever completely accepted it but I was her son and she loved me. Thanks Mom :D

Anyhow, I lost many people who I thought were friends but I soon found other friends, friends who liked me for who I am and not who I do. Alot of them have said "I don't care, just don't tell me about it" and some have even thought about trying it themselves. but they all are ok with it.

The hardest one I had to tell was my fiancee. When we met [online :D ], she had no idea and we were getting serious so I just came out and told her. I figured if she was to be a part of my life then she would have to accept all parts of it too. We have been married going on 5 years now :D

I do not regret "coming-out-of-the-closet". Actually, I have found it a useful tool in some ways, especially when it comes to firiendships.
I am very very proud of being a pet-lover/zoo... it has changed my life for the better and they deserve our love and admiration. :D



Sorry... I love to write :D

I posted this a few weeks ago in a thread called What wWill Become of Us or something like that, it's ever so slightly out of context but pertains very much to this discussion.

We ought to unite because we are in danger.
Just have a look at an article linked in the latest beastletter:
Call to ban bestiality gets Senate hearing
People who have exotic relations with animals should face a felony conviction for animal cruelty, says a Washington state Republican senator pushing for a ban on bestiality. Sen. Pam Roach's bill was prompted by a widely publicized case in which a man died of injuries suffered while having intercourse with a horse.
Read the full story at The Seattle Post-Intelligencer
The story:
Call to ban bestiality gets Senate hearing

By MIKE BARKER
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

OLYMPIA -- People who have sex with animals should face a felony conviction for animal cruelty, says a Republican senator pushing for a ban on bestiality.

Sen. Pam Roach, R-Auburn, is sponsoring the bill, which was prompted by a widely publicized Washington state case in which a man died of injuries suffered while having sex with a horse.

The measure was aired Tuesday in the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Washington is one of 14 states where bestiality is not explicitly banned, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

"Our laws are lacking in this area," Roach said. "People are coming from out of state to do this here. We don't need to have a mecca here for abusing animals."

The issue made headlines in July, when a Seattle man died after suffering a perforated colon while having sex with a horse at a farm in rural King County.

Authorities said Kenneth Pinyan was pronounced dead soon after companions dropped him off at a hospital.

Prosecutors were unable to charge anyone with animal cruelty, but James Michael Tait, 54, of Enumclaw pleaded guilty to trespassing for unlawfully entering the barn during the incident.

Authorities said Tait videotaped the act. He received a one-year suspended sentence, a $300 fine and community service.

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Roach's proposal would make bestiality a Class C felony, which is punishable by a maximum five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

Offenders might also be restricted from owning animals and could be placed into counseling. Anyone videotaping such acts also could be convicted under animal-cruelty laws.

"If these animals don't have the cognitive ability to consent, and that's the case, then we have to be protecting them," Roach said.

"That's one of the reasons we protect children; and while this is lower, it will still protect innocence from sex predators."

Studies have shown a strong link between sex with animals and pedophilia, King County Deputy Prosecutor Daniel Satterberg said.

"It would be wrong to look at this as an animal-welfare bill," Satterberg said. "It's the kind of conduct that can escalate to where the offender can become a threat to public safety."

The quest for animal protection has made for curious partnerships -- it's bringing together Roach, a rural conservative, and animal rights [SPAM] around the state.

The Washington Farm Bureau, Washington State Grange and state veterinarians also have backed the bill. Nobody testified against it Tuesday.

Pasado's Safe Haven, an animal-welfare group based in Sultan, first pushed Roach for the legislation. The veteran lawmaker, who owns goats on her family farm, immediately adopted the issue.

Susan Michaels, co-founder of Pasado's Safe Haven, said her organization receives a few calls each year about animal sexual abuse.

"But before this, there was nothing we could do about it," she said.

Michaels said animals can be hurt, killed or transmit diseases during the acts.

Authorities said the Enumclaw farm involved in the bestiality death was well-known on the Internet. Investigators found hundreds of hours of videotaped evidence, but there was no evidence of injury to the horses involved, so no animal-cruelty charges were ever filed.

"This obviously wasn't just an isolated incident, and sadly, it's not the first time we've heard about it," said Inga Gibson, program coordinator for the Northwest office of the Humane Society of the United States. "Animal sex abuse has happened across the nation." END




The way they view a natural, loving, and as pure as anything sexuality is as a terrible crime. Comparing zoophilia to pedophilia is a farce. Claiming that our brothers and sisters, who reach sexual maturity far sooner than we do, are as ignorant as children is folly. But the world (and strongly America) removes sexuality from them, with spaying and neutering, with belittling thier simpiler ways as lesser in meaning than our own, even going so far as to claim that any expression of personality and emotion from them is us imposing it upon them, imagining that it's there but it's not, disavowing the truly undeniable fact that they too have souls.

Can we unite? Can we (Americans at least) save ourselves from falling unjustly under a banner of extreme sexual deviancy? How? Admiting our affections to the common man is the same as saying, "hello, I rape children." They must be made to understand, positive zoophilia, not some simple fetish, but legitimate zoo-love, must be shown to them. Homosexuality's progressive acceptance is strengthened by it's presence in the media, in literature and films particularly, since television always seems to be regressions into extreme steriotypes. This too can be zoophilia, it may start as simple jokes (in fact we may be well into this stage), but it can indeed escalate into something more. It seems that we must begin a quiet presence, I wear my zetacreations zoo pin right along side my rainbow bar and inverted pink triangle on my backpack and hope daily someone will ask what it is. If anyone asked me if I was a zoophile, I'd calmly say yes and make my first opportunity to simply and politely educate them on the normalcy and naturalism of zoophilia. It's taken me a while to reach this point, my friends know that I'm a furry of sorts, not the same thing as a zoo of course, but they have reson to suspect, and if they asked me I can now say "yes." We broadcast on our own frequency, but we must broadcast nonetheless. I believe that the beauty of zoophilia is too great a thing to hide, all the more beautiful for true zoophiles to be prepared to share what they know with those that don't. We must be valiant, we must be honest, we must not live in a world of fear.

Oh no, as openminded as my family and friends seem I do know this is something on a scale they are not prepared to deal with. I've only told one person in confidence of my interests and only because she is sexually open and very curious as well.

This post has been edited by MoDao on Mar 25 2007, 04:26 PM

i started getting into this about 15 years ago when i had my own computer and was able to go wherevere i wanted on the net in privacy with my own coupter. i was hooked then and had some money problems so when the computer became outdated, and the internet service became stale i didnt renue. durring this time i came back here for a few pics from friends computers and they poked fun. my fault, i shouldnt have done that from a compter that wasnt mine. currently times are muuuch better financeally, so i do what i please. however, i havent extanged any conversation because its tough here. how these people got to know eachother is betond me. please feel free to msg me. see ya arround maybe.

no here, wish I could, but feels to risky

I have a few girlfriends that I've told. they range from supportive and interested to not speaking to me anymore.

I have to be exremely careful who I tell for reasons I don't really want to go into.

I have shared my lifestyle with others but only in the confines of a relationship and only when I was absolutely sure they would accept it (which they did and enjoyed imensely) and naturally when I knew previously of someones interest or participation.

Current g/f has no idea and I will never tell her as I know it would not appeal her.

For these reasons alone I am so pleased I found BF where no-one judges you and we all seem happy to share.

Nope, definitely haven't told anyone...
People I chat with online and a very small amount that I've met know, but only because we've met from here. :P

Someday I'd like to be able to tell my friends but not my family.. definitely do want to marry someday who's supportive or wants to help or has their own pets.. even though I haven't experienced anything really, my love for animals is not just going to 'go away.'

I haven't told anyone but a couple of online friends who searched me out on here. I'm hoping to talk to my fiance about this as it's not going away and I don't want to hide it from him, I won't be telling my friends I know it would bother them greatly. Being from a small northern city things like this just "aren't done here". It's definitely a dilemma choosing whether to talk or not.

The only people that know are the woman that turned me onto it and a girlfriend who is also zoo. She just came out and asked. :lol: But then I don't advertise a lot of personal information anyway.

I have only out-right told one person, because he made a comment that he had no problem with it. So I told him, and found out that he was a zoo as well.

I have jokingly made hints to a few people at work about it. Well, they were making the jokes thanks to this little scar on my head my little husky gave me. As well as a little "mishap" back in November about me "exercizing" with my sister's adult dog. I went into work the next day with my legs sore, and one of my coworkers thought I said "sexercize", which just made me literally fall to the floor laughing. A few days later, I told them the reason I was laughing so hard was because it was with my dog. And just this past Friday that same one made a joke about the scar, and mentioned that previous thing back in November. So my supervisor said "So, you like it doggy style, huh?" and that set me laughing even more. Once I could catch my breath, I said to them "Now what would you do if I told you everything you were teasing me about was true?" The supervisor said that she doesn't see anything wrong with it, as she married a "horse's ass" (her words). The coworker said "I would tell you to each his own, but would think of you as wierd", which they all do anyway. There's another person that I have hinted to about it, as she said that my "girlfriend is a real dog" and another supervisor said "she must be a real bitch", which made me laugh as well.

I would say 1 person knows definitely, while 4 people might have a suspicion about it. None of my family knows.

In truth it is actually a very difficult thing to talk about. As a young adult I hung around with a group of pals, one of which owned a dog called Carlo. They were collectively filled with too much testosterone and an inordinate curiosity about girls, so that drove our joint conversations. Carlo's claim to fame was that he liked to hump peoples legs. My buddies all found that hilarious. I found it erotic. I wished for a moment to be alone with Carlo, so I could touch him and experience him. I felt deeply sorry for him being ridiculed that way. He was deeply misunderstood, even if his "owner" claimed to love him, and if only I could look after him, I would have given him all the love he so richly deserved. But none of this happened. My buddies split up as their young adult lives took them to other parts of the planet after graduation from University and their testosterone-drive linked them to their respective (human) partners. I went on to find an appropriate partner (K9) with which to explore my erotic pleasures. I also found a girfriend but told her nothing of this. But I learned from this set of experiences that being Zoo is a closet lifestyle. My initial encounters were always deeply secretive and I almost always ended with a feeling of terrible guilt - as if I was flirting with the Devil himself.... :devil2:

Which is why I find the Forum so fantastic. I mean here we are a family - one of a larger group of like-minded people. That is truly amazing. I can now tell you all about the above, something not possible among my own closest friends and family. I no longer feel like evil incarnate and I can now regard myself as being "normal" (how boring!). :beer:

Then, after many years of happy marriage, I decided to broach the issue with my wife. Tentatively I hinted at my earlier encounters, not giving much detail. To my great surprise I heard that she had also owned a small dog that her brother and his pals used to ridicule. They used to throw him a knitted jersey, which evidently used to drive him into a humping frenzy. Then they would roll around in fits of hilarious laughter. She would then fight with the boys, take the dog away and in private try to coax him back to a situation of non-frenzied tranquility by gently satisfying him in a dignified way. That started us talking and that is where we find ourselves today. Both dog lovers and happily married with many years under the belt. Stable, happy and self-actualized. :inlove: