its funny growing up i grew up on a large farm we had a million milk cows i think i had to get up and milk cows at the crack of dawn there is nothing like getting out of a warm bed and having the first cow leak on ya or not want to be milked the one morning i was mad and i said i wish they would all fill up with milk and blow up my dad grabed me by the hair and took me out side and said you dont have to like them but you will give them respect i spent alot of time thinking of that and his words followed me through life i love my dogs and give them all the respect in the world my anser would be i have always loved animals i lost my verginity with a farm dog so its natural to me i tried human females and they are wonderful but i love my dogs and thats wair i want to be in there paws

you know... I have no idea. I guess one thing that may have contributed to it is my sexually confused childhood. (my dad was a drag queen.) getting mixed messages about male, female, right, wrong, it all is kind of enough to skew anyone's point of view at an early age. so I was kind of raised realizing that love and sex really isn't what everyone makes it out to be, its so much more. Everyone has different ways of expressing their sexuality. My late father loved being pretty, and I love animals. I guess it all kind of works out. :heart:

no reference to age here, but i was raised on a farm and LOVED my ponies, both male and female as often as they wanted me too. it just seemed very natural so yes, guess it was environment as a number one..... but hey,,,, i was attracted to them ALL my life and it continues to get more intense all the time........

the negation of that question is: Why are there people who do not like animals?
Since we have a capacity of love for animals, then we have the capacity
of being sexually attracted to animals; I for one love and find very attractive:
women, mares, bitches and ewes. All other animals I love but am not sexually
aroused by them, and still love their honest innocence and beauty.
Imagine, if you can, looking at asskickin' beautiful eagle or irish setter bitch and
feeling only cold detachment...Old Zoo you are right; We are just plain lucky....!
Phantom Beast :beer:

I don't know, but I think I just answered much of your orig. question in the General forum section, why we are the way we are (its instinctual).

Thanks for all your comments. I agree that not all animals are sexual attractive to me. With me its mares and bitches. I just find it fascinating how sexually obtuse our species is.
I love cats but I am not attracted at all to them. Interesting indeed! ;)

Hello Everyone,

First of all I would like to thank gpk for asking this question. Also I would like to thank the Mods of this forum for allowing this thread to remain open!

This is a question I have been asking myself quite a bit recently. It is the main reason I came to this forum. I was going to post a thread on it but you beat me to the punch gpk! My story goes along with what several people have said here. I think I had a predisposition to this kind of behavior, either by nature or nurture or both. The only thing I would like to know is what was the event that gave me the push over the edge. I describe it like that because I feel like I litteraly "fell" into this lifestyle. It may have even been out of my control, predestined? For years I never had any interest sexually in animals. I never even remotely considered it. Then one day - pow! It just hit. I saw a horse in a pasture and for some unexplainable reason wanted sex badly. I acted on that impulse that night. That is how strong the desire was! Within a matter of hours I went from "conventional" to zoophilic. It happened so fast that it was like a switch was turned on in me! Suddenly I found horses to be these incredibly sexy creatures and I couldn't be around them enough! I still can't explain it or why it happened so fast.

P.S.
I am looking through past posts looking for similar threads to this one. If anyone can refer one to me, I would like to read it.

Thank you,

Grevy

I have loved animals as far back as I can remember. I don't get any arousal from humans. Strangly enough, when I do have sexual interaction with humans I get a odd feeling that I am doing something un-natural.

I had only one cat growing up so I didn't get lots of experence with animals till I got older, but I know I loved horses long before I had ever seen one in person.

Due to the combination of not having any animals as a child, and going through denial of my sexual feelings, I didn't lose my virginity till I was 21. I mated a nice palomino mare, and was bred by an awesome black lab in the same day. After that i realized what I had been missing. I went to see a Shrink to see if what I was feeling was caused be a mental illness. He said that there was nothing wrong with me, and these feelings are just who I am and I should accept them, and that accepting them would ease my worried mind. He told me that Zoophilia is no different than any other sexuality, unless it was cause by a specific type of abuse, its a natural part of who you are. I have lived by that idea now for 9 years. And although I do at times envy "straight" people, I feel blessed that God chose me for this lifestyle.

This post has been edited by zoomaster on Aug 23 2005, 08:59 PM

Just to add likely zero extra value to the topic... I think about this constantly. Funny, as I'm getting old, and I really should just flow with it...

I too liked animals (not sexually, but powerfully) basically always... Things were rough, you'd rage at the world, but you couldn't rage at animals 'cause they didn't know any better, they were always there for you. When it came to sex, I first liked humans, and at some point it dawned on me that these wonderful furry guys and gals in my life were also possibly sexual creatures, aren't they, and hey, so could it possibly... ? Bang. Done. Wired. Never going back (and I wasted a number of years trying, believe me...)

But the 'why'... Lure of the forbidden as someone growing up in an fairly oppresive religious world, possibly. A very quiet rebellion of doggy licks? I dunno. Wasn't really that conscious, I don't think. It just fits like new lego. CLICK. This is right. I mean, obviously it's wrong (remember the religion thing) but, it's... just... right. It feels good, he/she is happy, I'm happy. Now, I've had that with humans, too. even though at times I really feel I should hate society (to quote Douglas Coupland's Gen X book, "We're all behaving like insects" :) ) I think I'm relatively integrated, functioning, social cog in that whole messy machine... But the human thing is not so integral to my being (and I have been both without human lovers and without animal lovers for stretches) so ...

I'm rambling, I guess I could just have cut all this out and pasted, "dunno" to save you time... :lol: Another thread could be "Have you ever tried to 'unzoo'?"... Good freakin' luck. May as well tell a gay to get married. It's a recipe for alcoholism!

zoomaster it was awful brave of you to admit that to another person especially a professional one i liked the answer he gave you must have been a very smart man

I had asked this question of my self many times. Why, Why me? Why?

I grew up as a good looking young man and had many girlfriends. I dated most of the best looking girls in my class. But sex with them did not seem natural. It was not easy, although I came to accept it in order to be normal with society.

There were two things from as far back as I can remember when I was growing up that I have always wanted. And they were a piano and a pony. I felt I loved music and I had a deep yurning to develop some kind of kinship with a horse or pony. Don't know what it was that made me feel this way. Still don't and that was over 45 years ago. Perhaps the best explanation is that I was just born this way. Just as someone is born to be musically talented, I was also born to have an attraction to horses too.

I had tried to change several times in my past, but after being without for even short periods of time, I started to become frustrated and easily irritated. I used opportunities like going to college, and getting engaged to be married as good reasons to stop, but they never worked. I would have constant dreams about ponies and horses when in their absence.

Through the years I had come to accept it as "that is just the way it is". I have kept regular woman girlfriends so as to appear normal in society. Some I have not had sex with, but kept as friends so others would think I am normal. I had to plan my life so animals would always be a part of it, that is why I have a farm.

Although I know this activity is not normal, and I don't ever want to intentionally hurt any animal, somehow deep down, I still feel that humans having unnatural sexual relations with animals (especially small animals where injury and infection can result) is wrong. I definitely do not think animals should be prostituted or sold for sex. To me the thought of someone else having sex with my pony would make me angry, as if someone was raping a normal mans wife.

If I was able to change I would. So of you who choose this lifestyle, choose differently if you can. Don't become addicted to this erotic stuff. There is more to life than sex with an animal, no matter what you may find here.

Liked your post, but a Q: Do you really think anyone 'chooses'? I guess maybe the 'hey, it'd be cool to watch my wife screw a dog' people could be getting into it more and more until the wife is gone and it's just him and the dog, but people like you (apparently) and I seem to be wired this way from way early on, thanks to X (where X equals god knows what... :) )

Wisp

Hmm a good question.

In a part of my life i am "normal" i am married and happy with the sex i have with my human partner - but my sex fantasies are always about reptiles ... they were sice i was 12 ...

Even as a child i loved touching snakes and lizards ... (it had there never something sexual till i was 12 or 13 but it was like someone who loves touching soft fur for my touching scaly animals ...)

Maybe it comes from this time...

But i never wished i wouldent have these erotic feelings when i even SEE a reptile.

These feelings are good - and i dont know WHAT other people have for feelings ...
Maybe there are more zoos around then we think.

Better be a zoo and getting turned on by animals then someone who dreams about sex with children or raping other people ect (fantasies about forcing animals to do what they dont want is not ok for me too).

EDIT: If i had to choos this life or a "normal" i would choose again this life...

This post has been edited by zaran on Sep 3 2005, 01:14 AM

My first reply to this topic was a bit glib because it is a very involved question, and I think I owe the conversation a bit more explanation, especially since so many of you are still anguishing over being zoos. This may offend some people's belief systems, but so be it.

Like so many of you, I have been zoo all my life, and for much of this time I felt somehow I was abnormal and probably a bad person because my society so strongly condemned what I was. As years went by I fought in a war, built a business, and moved through all sorts of social stratas from the top to the bottom. Eventually I came to realize that we in society are controlled by a quiltwork of carefully crafted myths.

Myth 1 is religion, all religion. No body has any proof what-so-ever that there is a god at all, much less what he wants us to do. Ancient scribblings are not proof of anything except that those myth builders could write. This has not kept man from inventing plenty of gods to keep the peasants in line. So strong are these myths that when they are challenged the true believers go wild and usually start killing people of some other religion. I am convinced they do this because they are afraid to ask themselves if their myth is really true!

Myth 2 is patriotism. We are told that killing is ok if it is done in a war with people of another belief system or country despite what myth 1 always says about not killing. We are told that we owe our country this duty to "protect" our country even when it is impossible to see how a particular war is protecting us from the enemy. This does not mean all wars are unavoidable for our country, just most of them. Worse if you have ever taken a life in combat you know that it changes you forever. It is not ok even if it was necessary under the circumstances.

Myth 3 is that the living world is made up of plants, animals, and people. People are animals...get over it!

Myth 4 is about sex. We are told that the purpose of sex is to make children (family values), and that is clearly the reason we evolved such pleasure generating genital organs. Yet if one looks around the world, the very last thing this world needs is a kid popping out every time some guy shoots his load! We are like mold on a fruit and the planet is about to collapse under our weight anyhow. Those who believe in myth 1 think their god is going to take care of this problem (that is one of the great things about myth1), but if you don't have myth 1 to rely on you get real damn nervous.

So what is right and what is wrong. It is very simple. If you wouldn't want it done to you, then it is probably wrong to do it to someone or something else.

Zoos, gays, and other non-reproductive sexual persons are therefore doing the world a favor in not reproducing. And while some beastial acts are clearly cruel, real zoos love animals and will never intentionally hurt one.

The final proof of the whole morality myth-lie is this. The religiously "moral" people who most strongly condemn us as being animal abusers have no problem at all with the atrocities our society inflicts upon animals in slaughter plants, factory farms, and experimental laboratories. This blindness to true cruelty invalidates their vote as to what is right and wrong about us. Once you see the myths for what they are you can truly be free of the needless guilt. Invent your own myth 1 or pick one of the older ones that encouraged mingling with our brother creatures! Just don't get caught violating the rules of the dominant myth 1 in your society or the high priests will crucify you. God bless you my children, go forth and be fruitless!

OZ

Old Zoo,

You could not be so correct in your assessment of human relationships with respect to religion, politics, and social norms.

I myself can never resolve the conflict between war and religion. It seems like we as a society critize those that justify killing in the name of god, be we as Americans do the very same thing.

Animals have the perfect order. Humans kill for sport not out of necessity. If we were true to our social morals, killing of all animals for sport should be outlawed.

ponylove