Does anybody have RECENT, RELIABLE numbers as to how many people are into bestiality/zoo or how many have committed a sexual act with an animal?

What I have heard is it is actually more common that people think.

Also, when looking at past trends, I think it is completely understandable if later in my lifetime - decades from now - it becomes somewhat acceptable.

As a society, we all are moving forward. Anal sex has replaced oral sex as the main taboo nowadays and only a hundred years or so masturbation was seen as completely evil. Pre-marital sex is becoming more prevalent, and the list goes on.

Who is to say that it won't become accepted a little in years to come?

I find it sad as well, thankfully I've gotten quite a few people to understand it better, and I hope to keep doing the same.

I've said it before, a government can't collect as much in taxes from zoophiles. As such the government will never be for it, and if you want to produce an army then a stedy supply of children is a must.

Sorry, but beast sex will always be taboo, always. It always has been, and always will be. No society in history has ever "openly" practiced zoophilia. It has always been a rare practice done behind closed doors and away from general view.

Skyrune made a very good point. They are never going to accept it because they don't understand. However, those who have stated that, sexually, society is advancing.

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and anal is not really so "taboo" anymore.

The only people who still have a problem with masturbation, oral sex and premarital sex are those that are too close-minded because their life revolves around a book.

People people people! beastiality was once excepted and revered and is still tolerated in non christian societys. it is the same kind of religious zelotry that persecutes the homosexuals sodomy is against the law in every state i think but sex with animals isnt most states dont have animal sex laws and only can charge you with abuse. we claim to be an enlightened society but we are not. and untill the plague wipes them out there will always be those who persecute what they dont understand.

Never openly practiced it, no. Respected it more than society does today? Yes. See below, and check out the Wikipedia link to Zoophilia in my signature and look at some of the artwork in that article.

I think they said it well. :)

This post has been edited by Ravana on Aug 8 2008, 12:12 PM

the laws vary from state to state.
many states dropped their old sodomy laws, which included sex with animals and with people of the same sex.
A few still have the same old strict laws (Oklahoma for one, where it is a felony).
California dropped theirs, but have sex with animals as a misdemeanor.
NY dropped theoirs, not sure if they have any minor laws regaring it, other than maybe indecent exposure and such.
Texas has no law against it, but does have a law making it illegal to expose ones genitals or anus.
A few states have made new laws for various reasons. these include Missouri, Washington and Arizona.
Trying to force our ways on John Q Narrowmindgoesbytheoldbook only causes new laws to be created.
Missouri because of a few buttwipes that made their doings too public, and Washington becaue, in major part, a person died due to a ruptured intestine due to getting bred by a horse.

One can do a web search for sodomy or bestiality laws. may not always be up to date.
Still best to avoid the public eye regarding zoo sex.

yes, some societies did have sex with animals as a part of their rites, usually fertility rites. Others were just plain into almost everything, like the Romans at a part of their history.
religions have varied widely in their attitude topwards sex. And depending on souces, one may find far more variance in a religion than is generally preached nowadays.

So, one needs to research before making a blanket statement regarding sodomy and other laws.
Laws can and do change.

Beast will ALWAYS be considered taboo, sorry. Look at anal, though more and more people are doing it these days, it is still considered pretty taboo to most. I even know of people who consider oral sex taboo. There are still women, and men(mainly considering women due to my own sexual orientation but obviously can go for gay males), in this world who wont consider giving a man a blowjob, or a man wont do oral on a woman.. I don't really expect beast to be removed from the taboo list.

This post has been edited by squad917 on Aug 9 2008, 12:20 AM

Obviously zoophilia has always been part of every society. Nobody is suggesting it doesn't occur. However no society has ever championed it or even publicly tolerated it. Obscure religious practices and myths aside.

Perhaps, ancient Roman aristocrats put on beasty shows for their personal entertainment. However that doesn't mean it was an acceptable practice even in ancient roman society.

Also Rome was a male dominated society. women had virtually no rights in the home. I doubt many roman husbands would accept their wives humping fido while he was at work. Could get herself killed.

^ Agree again.

Time may move on, and civilized societies may progress, but there are just some things that, as a whole, will not be accepted. It's nice to think that it would be, but...realistically, it's just wishful thinking.

Keep the doors locked and the curtains drawn while you have your fun, friends...the outside world simply doesn't posses the depth of understanding needed to view this lifestyle practice as acceptable. It will always be taboo. The "hows" and "whys" are irrelevant.

I've been thinking about this one for a while, and it seems like if it becomes more popular and more common, it might get to the point of getting more acceptance, but not acceptance by all.

What drives me to believe this is just look at the practice of anal sex say...50 years ago compared to today. Back then, it was very degrading, basically nobody talked about it, the actual occurrence was pretty rare (sorry, don't have statistical figures) in the grand scheme of things.

Look at today though. Lots of people do it, it happens all the time, it is I guess for the most part accepted. There's still a significant number that either just absolutely will not participate in it, nor condone the act, but there is an overwhelming number of people who are the opposite, and there's of course a bunch in the middle between both camps.

So just seeing how that evolved in 50 years, I would say beast could follow a similar pattern, albeit not with the same proportionate result. The "for it" camp won't be nearly as large, but it will still be a significant size. I think the "middle ground" camp will take up the slack though.

There will be a large number of people who wouldn't participate themselves, but won't look down on those who would. In the end, the "against it" camp will very likely be the same camp that is against anal sex, but they will have a few new members in the group, as well.

Perhaps more documentaries like Coming Soon could help, but I think the important obstacle in overcoming the taboo part of beast would be to try to convince others that it is not abuse. I know I can't speak for everyone, but of course there are always going to be some rare cases where it really is abuse, but the majority of the time is not.

I don't know, that's just how I see it, I could be wrong, or I could be on the verge of a breakthrough. Who knows at this time. Only the future will tell the outcome.

In my opinion, the greatest obsicle that stands in the way of zoophilia becoming
more widely accepted by society in general is the commercial porn industry. Watching "dilldoging" sessions and passionless pulling on a tranquilized horses dong are outrageous abuses and insulting to those people that truely love animals.
There are many people, probably men more than women, that become curious at some point and thereby check out some zoo porn; If all these people see are sickening examples of abuse, then more than likely their curious escapade into zoophilia will end with negative feelings.
I am not saying that commercial porn as it exists is by any means the only thing keeping us away from more favorable acceptance, but it sure might help if more people could see the passion and understand the joy that we share with our animals.

There is a lot of very good discussion on this thread. After reading and thinking about what all has been said, I believe that it would probably be wise to keep a low profile and live life the best that we can - thereby leading through example. If someone were to discover the zoo aspect of your life, it would be best if that person could find no other fault in your charcter and actions.

Oh so true if you bent me that way when i was excited id scream. who wants to see flacid penises on horses lets see some raging hard ons. so much out there is cheap and fake and it gives us a bad name. very well said my friend