so here's another tuff love warning....

STFU!@#!

This post has been edited by southflorida on May 4 2005, 01:57 PM

hiya MB! the definition you submitted for beastiality doesn't work for THIS site -there are member here who consider themselves zoos and members who consider themselves beasties -but the only members here that "conduct or an action marked by depravity or brutality" are the ones that haven't surfaced to the top and been banned YET -and we don't call them beasties... as stated -there are already working definitions for this site in place...

I think we got a weeee bit off topic here. In case anybody interested in reading more about what I am talking about go to the site http://www.pervscan.com/category/bestiality/
thanks and have a good day.

boy some people get into this zoo vs.bestialty thing i really dont know what i am i guess i will just stay neutral

I have been a zoo since I was a teenager. I grew up with parents who did the same thing. We owned a farm and loved our animals. One night my father caught someone in the barn raping our house, and yes I think that is rape. She was upset and going nuts. My father shot him in the leg. I still agree with what he did. I know many people who love animals but I do not agree with the abuse of them. That is when people get caught. We actually saved a dog that was being sexually abused, he was never touched sexually in our home. We gave him a life without that, it was what he needed.

People who rape animals are the reason why we have to hide. It is sick.

As far as the original question is concerned, i ask you to consider this for a moment.

If you were to search the archives for news stories involving human/animal sex up to about 15 yrs ago, you most likely wouldnt find that many reported (doesnt mean they werent happening) Then enter the internet, where MOST of us (at least here in the states) realized with some astonishment that "Wow, theres others that feel the same way i do about this" and viola, forums began, chat rooms appeared and we connected with people that we never would've known existed.... fast forward a few years, Mpeg's and jpg's become commonplace for anyone to find and all of a sudden what was passed around the office as an "oh my god look at these sick freaks" gag helped to create and foster a new kind of issue, the fetish seeker/vouyer, some of whom have no direct interest in animals at all (and yes im generalizing a bit here) most of which were/are male and only want to see a woman with his dog, for some ive seen this was enough, for others it evolved a bit further into what i term as "animal pimps". These people use thier dog/horse whatever to specificly gain access to women by offering her something she might be curious about, but wouldnt try on her own, MOST of the time this is done in the hopes that he will "get some" himself. Then there are those that simply dont want the "hassle" that comes with having an animal of thier own, for them the shortest route to getting what they want/desire/are curious about, is to fencehop and use someone elses animal IMO (and remember its ONLY my opinion) these people are only out for thier own pleasure for the most part and often cause harm to the animal (intentionally or not) that they are messing with. There was a story i read awhile back about a man that had to tie a mare(someone elses no less) to a fence in order to have his way with her and she ended up strangling herself trying to escape. Now im sorry if someone disagrees with me here, but how is that any different than rape and murder?

The effect that the internet and its easy access to damn near anything has turned what was more or less a hide in the shadows group of people into a cash crop for some and a venue for all types of people who have an interest in this subject of one sort or another. And though the intentions might have been good, those that have "come out" in the name of equal treatment for "zoo's" have done nothing but turned the spotlight on everyone (example, Hossie and the BBC documentary, caused missouri to pass new laws against sexual contact with animals as well as other states)
Once something that was hidden becomes exposed, people start looking for it without even realizing it, a vet friend of mine who is violently opposed to this type of behavior will actually inspect an animal for signs of sexual contact, all because of what he's seen/heard about on the internet.

In the end, its your decision whether or not the rest of the world knows what you think about/do, you post pics or videos of yourself in the act and your next door neighbor might stumble across it, if that happens you've just ruined not only your life, but put your animals life in jepordy as well


Guns

Sorry to jump in on the O/T discussion...

What really is wrong and right? Some things that are condemned in 'our' Western culture are considered normal in other cultures, such as arranged marriages. What some consider to be something worth capital punishment others don't have a problem with. I have my own idea of what's acceptable and what's not. What counts for me when it comes to sex with animals is that the animal is treated with due respect and care. Also, I personally wouldn't trespass - I mean, NOBODY here would like a stranger walking around on their property (especially no stranger that has sex with your animals) so why is it acceptable for me to do just that just get satisfied? Even if you treat the animal oh-so-nicely you are still on someone else's property.

This thread makes it clear that not everybody feels the same. A while ago, someone on the chat got banned because he said he liked calf blowjobs, yet threads with the same content are allowed in the swap section. So I don't even know what the official 'limit' of what's acceptable is on this board.

On topic:
If you have sex with animals, but keep it private and it never leaves the bedroom - chances are minimal that you'll get caught. And being caught in your own bedroom with your own dog is 'better' than being caught standing in someone else's barn behind someone else's pony with your pants down. In the first case, chances are much smaller for you to ever be reported to the police. Also, you increase your chances of getting caught by spreading your own pornographic material.

SF, if you notice there is three seperate definitions on the sublect, not all one meaning, words will always mean different things to different people, and different in how we use them.
if you notice in both, one of the definitions is sexual activity with and animal, so in that context and meaning the words are the same and either can be used.
The Beastie Boys probably didnt mean that they were having sex with animals, or that they were depraved, probably more that they looked beast like.
To myself, i dont see any difference in the words, they describe an activity that we either fantasise about or engage in, isnt it just that one of the words sound that little bit fancier than the other.
In the definition for zoophilia it states a tendency to grow or feed on animal tissue, in that text all meat eaters are zoos, we could go on and on in so many posts on which is what and who is what and all just keep arguing, does irt really matter what the difference is between the two
my point from it was that the both words are very close in meaning, and to tell you the truth, i found the bitch very insulting.

To the original post that more and more people seem to be getting caught, maybe, but i doubt it
i think it is more that the cases from all over the world are collected on one internet page, so you can see them all together , if not for the internet would you have even heard of one incident.
I admit that is is a danger having sex with other peoples animals, or out in a public place, i know my partner has a fantasy to have sex on a beach with a dog, but also know it would never happen, the risk is just not worth it, most of the people getting caught either dont relise the risk or dont give a damn, which in its self is a shame because it draws light to the others that practise in private, and hopefully it wont lead to the law cruising the net in a similar way they cruise for pedofiles, that could see alot more people getting caught, and maybe just for thier fantasies, not thier actions.

well I'm sorry MB that you found my "bitch" insulting -but I didn't and don't see it as a bitch -I'm not sorry that I made it -but again I am sorry that you found it insulting...

the topic of this thread has come down to what "names" and "definitions" are acceptable ON THIS FORUM -if you read LadyR's post -you will see that calling "beasities" depraved and rapist -and pinning labels -is NOT acceptable -and she has also clearly outlined that there are already working definitions on the site -so after going through all the heated conversations correcting the previous posters -you waltz in and add a definition that is exactly what has been deemed unsuitable -in MY opinion -and I speak for myself and not the forum -your definition which included negative components was not timley -it once again went against what the forum JUST SAID was appropriate! Washing down the words in your definition and candy coating them after the fact doesn't change what they stand for -I don't know how else to interpret "conduct or action marked by depravity or brutality" as anything but negative.

So, once again I'm sorry that your taking it personally, it wasn't aimed at you personally, I was just once again trying to set the record straight of what I have interpreted as being acceptable to the forum.

The depraved and brutal edfinition of bestial in its proper usage actually has nothing to do with sex (and it doesn't mention sex in that definition). It can be used to describe any violent crime or person for instance. Just one of those words with multiple meanings, sort of like when people describe me as straight pimpin' yo it has nothing to do with sex either. So nothing wrong with posting the definition IMO, as long as it's clear that it does not apply to our activities. As for acting like an animal, well..... :twisted:

South, I believe he was referring to Bitch-In-Heat's definition.

:sorry:

my sincere apologies if I miss read the intent.

:sigh: I'm sure glad I stayed objective and didn't take it personally :blush:

Hehehe :D

:thinking: ohhh I thought they refered to you as the guy with big manly unit :lol: