Ok, here goes, my first new topic post. Hi, this question is mainly aimed at all the inactive zoos out there right now. In other words, those who are currently not having, or never have had, sexual relations with animals . . .

Is there anyone here who plans to never-- or never again-- have sex with animals? If so, do you still consider yourself zoo, and why?

I bring this up because I am currently struggling over whether I consider myself to be zoo. The past year I have noticed a sexual attraction to certain species of animals . . . I'm in the furry fandom and I've always liked the art depicting characters more "animal-like" than human-like. I slowly drifted towards an increasing facination with and attraction towards certain species, namely horses . . .

And I enjoy reading stories, and fantasy, but still. Despite all of that, I don't think I actually want to form intimate relationships with animals.

How can I be attracted to some animals but not want to have sex with them? Well I suppose it's actually not so strange, women are attracted to men who are "bad for them," the bad boys are sexy, the good boys are marriage material, as the cliche goes. I, for example, am attracted to men three times my age (I'm almost 20 myself), and I don't seriously want to have sex with them, for many good reasons. That doesn't mean I don't find them any less attractive, just that I can find a person attractive and still 100% NOT want to have sex with them!

Same thing goes for fantasy. As been often cited, it's said women fantasize about rape, but it's unlikely any of them actually would want that. People's fantasy sex lives are typically more kinky than their real sex lives. The romance vs. the reality of a certain scenario often has a gap so wide that people do not wish to bridge it. Sometimes for good reason.

So. Anybody here who feels they are a zoophile at heart but who never plans on actually consummating their erotic thoughts/fantasies with an animal?

My 2 cents.
I also haven't already had sexual contacts with animals, but definitely I'd like to try it one day :P
Yet I think I understand your case.
You know, with me it was a bit complicated. The day when I realised I am a zoo was 23rd September 2004, when I accidently found famous zoophile.net, and realized this is something I was looking for for years :) And, I don't know why, but for certain time, the only animal I wanted to mate with was dolphin. It's because mating with no other animals is the same as with dolphin (they often do if for pleasure etc.), so it seemed more special that with i.e. dog or garden goat (greets to Cetecean). I couldn't imagine sex with any animal but dolphin. And then, one day I found a story about wonderful love between zoo and his mare. They were together, also sexually, and were very happy. This story made me considering human-equine love very wonderful, and I started deaming about such a love between me and mare. But... I couldn't think about sexual part of such a relationship. Making love to mare, stuck to her back standing on the bucket seemed not too interesting to me (but not disgusting either) I could spend hours imagining about hugging to mare, stroking her beautiful mane, enjoying wonderful mutual affection etc, but sexual aspect didn't interest me and it made me frustrated because without that, such a relationship seemed "incomplete". But some amount of time passed, and reading more and more about people having sex with mares etc., finally I found it interesting and now it sounds great to me, maybe the same thing will be with you? ;) (you are also the zoo for a short time) The second possibility is that you may be something like... platonic zoo? You know, something you described about yourself, no physical contacts but everything else - after all zoophilia is not only sex, it's also looking at animals in very special way, the willing of devoting the life completly to animal you love etc. I don't know, maybe your case is different from mine, but anyway you're right, it's not strange, you just look at zoophilia from that more spiritual angle, maybe the rest will come, maybe it won't, I think you do right :)

I'll probably never do it to an extent, maybe the most i ever do is jack off a dog. None yet.

I've never had intercourse with an animal but have done other things. I have played with both male and female dogs. If given the chance, I would gladly do it with either sex.

This post has been edited by dogfood on Mar 24 2005, 03:56 PM

I was active, but no longer. So I'll most likely be a celibate zoo for the foreseeable future. :ruck:

Right now, I am pretty much celibate. My dog is not interested in mounting at current, so I'm basically not getting any.

I like being zoo, I feel complete as a zoo, and have no intention of ever giving up the lifestyle. I also went through alot of deep thought on the manner before giving in. I was raised up in the manner of the dog must always be spayed or neutered, and intimate relationships were supposed to be strictly man/woman. I am actually getting harassed somewhat now for my boy still being intact. Of course, my folks are not aware of my lifestyle. You will know if or when the time is right to move forward. If you decide that this is not what you seek, then this will be your own decision to make. Nobody can make it for you. If I ever do settle with a woman again, she will have to be a zoo as well.

This post has been edited by dawgz on Mar 26 2005, 02:35 AM

I would say what one calls oneself is not really all that important. But if you find the labels important, according to the dictionary and other sources they are quite simple.

f you love animals then you are a zoophile. If you have sex with them you are a bestialist. If you love and have sex with them then you are both a zoophile and a bestialist.

I'd stop worrying about what you might do in the future. If you feel the desire to surround yourself with a specific species then take steps to do so. Always follow your heart, your bliss. It's likely that your subconcious is trying to lead you there anyway.

TK

Thanks everyone for your replies.
True that labels themselves are not important but the value is in what such labels mean to you, how they help you define yourself.
Actually I've tried several times now to post a reply here, trying to further explain things . . . I kept deleting what I wrote because it wasn't explaining things the way I wanted it to. Finally all of that clarified in my mind how I felt.
And it made me realize. I enjoy the fantasy but would never step past the threshhold into reality. I just wouldn't be comfortable with that. So for all intents in purposes I think I am furry and not zoo.
It's been great reading the boards here though and learning, so I thank everyone. Learning what I'm not sometimes is as useful as learning what I am.
Best wishes to you all.

jaybee_bug,

i would say whether you do or don't ever do anything about your attraction, the question is does it have a sexual component to it? If its sexual fantasies you are having, then yep, i'd say you are zoo.

When someone is a virgin and they feel an attraction for another person but choose not to have sex with that person, does that mean that if the attraction is for the opposite sex that they are still not straight? If its for the same sex, does that mean they aren't gay?

Its not the 'doing' that makes you what you are, its the internal thoughts and feelings and ultimately, it is you who define what you are.

If you are happy to fantasise about sex with animals but not do anything in real life, and you call yourself a zoo, fine. If you choose not to call yourself a zoo, also fine.

michelle

But in my mind's eye, I expect that which the animal cannot give in reality.
In my mind's eye . . . the horse is greater than an ordinary horse. Even when I pretend it not to be, it is so. It can communicate with me on a level I simply cannot with normal equines. Its spirit becomes sentient, in my fantasy. But I do not believe that real-life horses are sentient. Very intelligent, yes. But not the level of awareness that humans have.
It is, to accurately describe, anthropomorphizing the animal on some level. Projecting something onto the animal that simply isn't there, at least to the best of my knowledge.
That I what I mean. That is not to say that all of you are "anthropomorphizing" real animals. But I can see that I am.

Just would like to add my two cents.
Most of my fantasies and dreams about sex usually involve animals, mostly dogs and horses. I usually wake up so horny from zoo dreams. I have had some experience with male dogs and female and male horses. However, I was so afraid to try it at first. I thought to myself, "what if I really enjoy this...I know I like dreaming about it, but how hard would it be to keep something like this going for real?" I was afraid I would love to do something that no one would accept and I might even feel wrong for doing. I know that I am a zoo at heart, and if given opportunities I would continue acting upon my fantasies, but I could be celibate from the animals and live with just my dreams and thinking to myself, "now that is a sexy animal" when I walk by one I like. So, in short, I am a zoo, I could be celibate and not regret it, but I think I'll take my advantages when I can. Just works better for my life right now. It's easier when your partner is a zoo too ;) :P I don't think I could hide something like that from someone that loevs me and I love in return.
Eh, just thought I'd share.

(This is not a sob story)

As for celibacy in any relationship, it does not have to be by choice.

It is about 16 years since I coupled with a human and 3 years from my last encounter with a dog. In the first instance I simply wasn't interested and the second for some reason unknown, my libido sank to nil and I simply cannot get it up, despite vigorous efforts by all parties.

The dog died 2 years ago and I spun into depression at the thought of continuing to live alone.

Because I was stopped earning I was reduced to a smaller place to live that simply could not accomodate a dog and I have no wish to attempt replacing my beloved dogs with a cat or bird etc.

Celibacy can be a great enhancer of eventual sexual activity because there is so much longing involved, equally celibacy can make life that bit easier because the pressure is off to perform etc.etc.

I think this thread should be compulsory reading for the non zoo community at large who condemn us!
Fascinating insights into the minds of all contributors.

Thank you all.

My strongest earhtly bond is with my dog. Would I ahve sex with him? No, he is cut and my tastes don't run that way. He is animl agressive so gettign other dog or even finding someone witha dog is out of the question until he passes on. So You could say I am a celebate zoo. I have my dogs care ahead of my libido.

As for people who ar enot interested in this community readign this thread. I think that would be a bad idea. Be it religion, fear, morals or what ever label they care to use. To the overwhelming majority out there all of us men are predatory perverts picking on helpless animals and all the woman are wanton sluts and whores. They will never ever accpet us and even thinking they might is a fools quest. Publicity is a bad thing for anyone not already part of the in crowd.

We are all much much safer the less the world at large knows about. Even with thier misconceptions we are a curiousity not worth payign attention too. If one of us goes on a publicity kick we could be in deep doo doo.

This post has been edited by raver on Jul 9 2006, 04:41 PM

Easy on Raver, I agree with you. I was not making a practical suggestion, just paying a tribute to all the thoughtful and compassionate people who have made this thread such a great insight into our community. ;)