Dont get me wrong oldk9luver, there IS a VAST difference between what happened to you and what the original question implies.

The first question to me at least seems to say (in almost the same words too) "isnt it better for the animal if you just pick it up from the pound, shag it and then return it" this then implies that either 1) you cant give it a good home, 2) that being on death row is better than being intimate with people for an animal, 3)the writer is being sarcastic.

Take your pick of motivations and you can see why i wasnt happy at all.

What happened to you is regrettable but not the same, because it was not a cold and calculated plan to do so, i bet you loved that animal and returning it to the pound would have broke your heart.. if it wasnt for my family the mini on my avatar would have been sold to someone else and god only knows where she'd be today , im still trying to get the funds together for land to get her back, so i do know and fully realise what does happen and how it feels. i live with the pain everyday.

just my point of view, but to take something from the pound, it would be with the intentions of giving it a home, if that cant be provided then leave it where it is, the day you have at your place enjoying it, may be the day that the only person willing to give it the home shows up, and you deprived it of the chance.
there is better ways of getting what you want

wOW, oLDK9LUVR GOT BANNED because he was standing up for the rules which ladyrott violated, I could not believe it when he emailed me this thread.
I guess there are some animals more equal than others.
Guess I'll be banned now
RULES DON'T MATTER


D. Be polite, be kind. Don't insult anyone, be rude or vulgar and limit your complaints to constructive criticism.

This post has been edited by marymonusa on Mar 9 2005, 04:10 PM

Like you did in the pm to me? Followed the rules?


"I'm fairly new here, and I really hate the way you treat the members here, I've given you a zero rating, I also emailed beaker suggesting he dump you. why don't you get a fucking life bitch.

P.S. - WE ALL KNOW THAT AVATAR IS A FUCKING FAKE"

Perhaps you shold read up?

That was a PERSONAL MESSAGE ladyR do you understand english? PERSONAL message, show some respect for a change

Hum...respect. Didnt think THAT word was in your vocabulary at all :D

I respect the rules unlike you, get a new job ladyr, you are a burnt out old :censored: FAKE, I bet you never even had sex with a dog once.

:kiss: And there "it" goes again; talking bout fakes....Now; I wonder..... :D

Wow, I'm still not banned? Tell me why Oldk9luvr was banned, that is what this is all about, he called you to task for violating a rule, he did not violate half as many rules as you have in the past ten minnutes,
ANSWER ME THAT!
YOU WERE WRONG, ADMIT IT.
And you are fat.

You are way too late, hon;) I already posted this on the thread where you have your adorable little fits ;)


:kiss: LadyR

marymonusa, you really need to take a step back and look at this whole situation again. The mods of this website have a tough time with people like you. Your language is a violation of the board rules for a start, I'm surprised you're not banned to be honest. And it really is none of your business why someone else was banned. Anything could have happened between oldk9lover and the mods outside this thread. If you don't know the whole story, mind your own business.

I can't stand people not appreciating what they've got, and what we've got is a group of mods who care about this forum so much they dedicate hours of their own time to keeping it in working order.

hmmm although "personal message" means to some "off the reccord" , in this case i believe it simply means a message deliverd directly to a specific person... it does not mean that the content is outside the rules, or that the rules only apply to publicly visable postings, and especially on a board backed up by a company expect all posts to a moderator (unless your their friend) to be treated in a professional and not personal manner.

In addition Marymonusa , are you positive it was THIS post he was banned for ?

You are his friend yes, and you are angry & passionate yes, but being rude and disrespectful and difficult to talk to will not encourage anyone to listen to you seriously or productively.
(maybe not what you wish to hear but good advice all the same)

I must have missed the post where oldk9 flew off the handle and got banned.

Unless there's a deleted post that I'm missing, he was rightfully calling LadyR to task for a possible violation of the ethics guidelines which she's supposed to be enforcing. Just because you're a mod doesn't mean you can "do no wrong" -- far fromt it.

If he was banned for some other reason not apparent on this thread then I apologize and will butt out of that particular discussion.

The bigger picture...

It's funny how people will do whatever necessary to feel good about themselves. The inmates in prison say "sure, I killed someone, but I never molested any kids!!" and beat up on the child molesters. The child molesters, possibly, say "sure I hurt a bunch of children, but I never screwed a dog!" So those of us who screw dogs (call it what it is, it's not a love affair, it's sex) -- I guess we have to find people to be "better than" too, so it seems like some of us have decided that unless you are lucky enough to be able to take a dog in and care for it for 10+ years and give it a permanent home, you're evil. If you're mature and honest enough to admit that you can't give a dog the best home, but you still want to give it (and yourself) a few hours of pleasure with NO HARM or COERCION being the RESULT of your actions-- well, apparently you're evil.

Despite the fact that you're not making the dog's situation any worse than it was. Despite the fact that you're not abusing the animal or forcing it to do anything it doesn't want to do (if you are, then I retract this defense, and you're despicable). Despite the fact that what you did was completely consensual, and possibly the only sex the poor pooch will EVER have before getting his nuts manditorily snipped off or worse -- before he gets euthanized. Sounds more like you're doing it a favor to me.

But yet, those who aren't in deep, "loving" relationships with their animals are scorned and held up for ridicule, whereas those of us who are fortunate enough to live in large houses with large yards and enough free time to take care of an animal -- *fortunate* enough -- are preening ourselves on what righteous folk we are.

One poster even told me that it was okay to leave a dog home alone for 9+ hours a day -- but god forbid you just have sex with a stray (despite the fact that the time you were taking care of, and, yes, having sex with, the stray would probably be LIGHT years better than his time on the streets). I think they were well meaning, but I think that that's so completely wrongheaded. It's just keeping up the ILLUSION that you're in some sort of bizarre "committed" "loving" relationship with your dog, even if that illusion is only as thick as a layer of whitewash. It's like staying in the marriage "just for the kids" -- you're never doing anyone any favors by lying, even when the truth is socially unacceptable. The lying is to make US feel better about what we're doing, not to make the situation any more morally palatable. It's rationalization.

Yes, I know that a lot of this is just people's opinions -- heck, this whole post is just mine. As far as the law is concerned, for 90% of us (or is it 100% of the United States by now?) what we're doing is WRONG whether it's in some sort of "committed" "loving" relationship or just a dog from the streets or the pound. So it all comes down to opinion.

But my opinion is this: I firmly believe that as long as you are not HARMING an animal by your actions, and as long as what takes place between you and that animal is COMPLETELY CONSENSUAL -- it's nobody else's bloody business what you do.

Stick by those rules -- no harm, and obtain consent from all INVOLVED parties -- and you can just ignore the moralizers. They'll always try to tell you who you can and can't sleep with -- apparently that's no different here than in the "straight" world. If you follow your OWN conscience, you'll know what's right and what's wrong.

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To answer the original question: I don't think you can do this because every pound I've seen requires neutering before they'll release an animal to you. Yes, I've checked. In addition, many/most of them charge hefty fees (called "donations" -- heh, gotta love non-profits) to adopt an animal -- sometimes upwards of 200 dollars. That could get pricey quickly. So no, I don't think that this tactic would work or be a good idea.

This post has been edited by atomx on Mar 10 2005, 08:45 AM

Apology accepted. You dont know the entire story; so; yeah butting out would be a good idea ;)

The question asked was: Have any of you ever heard of getting a dog from the pound, bringing it home, doin what you will, then giving it back to the pound? Apparently that got lost completely in this discussion. I replied to that question; from what I think and I feel about it. Ok; so its sex; but if whoever treat sexual partners (human or animals) as they would a dildo, I can not muster any respect for ; not that it means much to you; however; I chose to respect or not respect whom ever I want; last I checked - thats fully allowed ;)

LadyR

This post has been edited by LadyRottweiler on Mar 10 2005, 09:20 AM

Yes,I suppose there are some people who do this.But one surely has no heart by chosing this way of getting "cheap sex".Just take a look at the dogs in shelters..Who on Earth could exploit those poor beings?Especially the older ones who have WAY LESS a chance to ever get out of there??I can't believe someone can get turned on by "browsing" shelters.. :(