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> When Will Our Love Be Legal?, Similaritys between zoophilia/homosex
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Posted: Mar 11 2004, 09:02 AM
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Ponder this...

It has been in all of or times that homosex was illegal or considered a abomination around the world. Yet public opinion changes. Open homosex in many countries is now normal, with many tv showas having openly gay couples in staring roles.

The gay liberation started (I think) about 30 years ago with the police raid on "Stonewall" in San Francisco. Now there love is protected from discrimination by law (Most industrialized naitons)

So, when will our love recive the same protection?

What will be our Stonewall?

I know the same could be said of pedophilia but what im refering to is the consentual sex between man/animal.

Give me you thoughts...
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  Posted: Mar 11 2004, 09:31 AM
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There's one HUGE difference between zoophilia and homosexuality.It is animals..I remember how many times I've been told on forums that I "use" animals as sex toys because I'm too lame to get myself a girlfriend......
Also,don't forget the animal rights warriors,they are something gays didn't have to "fight" with (I mean,who protected a gay's lover? ((who was also a human)) blink.gif )
Hope you get what I mean smile.gif

"So, when will our love recive the same protection?"

Not in this life.
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Posted: Mar 11 2004, 10:56 PM
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Hello One day we will be accepted. But several things have to happen first.

1) people need to realize that we are a community and that there are to many of us to be ignored.

2) The media needs to stop painting such a dark picture of us. All of the times that you hear of zoophilia in the new it is always something bad. Something like "The accused raped the animal"

3) And lastly I firmly believe that as zoophiles we need to find a way to seperate ourselves from beastialists. And when I say that the people who I am referring to are those who use animals solely for sex, those who do not care for the animal and what they are feeling and those who force an animal to do things that it does not want to do.

Until these things happen there is no hope of us even being tolerated.

There is hope though. A new yahoo group has been started for this reason in particular. The group is titled zoophiles destiny and you can link to it through clicking on the www button under this post. Currently we are only trying to see how many members we can get. The group was started on Feb 29 and we now have 43 members. Once we get an overwhelming amout of members we will see what we can do. When ever that happens we will decide as a group what the next step should be. If you consider yourself to be a zoophile then it is in your best interest to sign up. You may one day be surprised by what a couple of clicks can do.


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Posted: Mar 12 2004, 01:51 AM
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Well said ---2---!! smile.gif There inst much left to add so i just stay silent wink.gif


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Posted: Mar 12 2004, 02:43 AM
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One thing that bothers me is that one of our major detractors also cares about animals - vets. Yet they think they're right, and we're wrong, and a lot of people will trust a vet's word over ours.

Zoos love their animals, we don't just fuck them. We care about them, and may even risk our life for them. So I don't appreciate someone who thinks they're superior because they have the word DOCTOR in front of their name. We are looking at animal care from two different perspectives - clinical vs. emotional. They care about our animals for ten or fifteen minutes a year, unless something major occurs - we care about them 24/7.
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Posted: Mar 12 2004, 04:01 AM
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QUOTE (sjpor @ Mar 11 2004, 08:43 PM)
One thing that bothers me is that one of our major detractors also cares about animals - vets. Yet they think they're right, and we're wrong, and a lot of people will trust a vet's word over ours.

Zoos love their animals, we don't just fuck them. We care about them, and may even risk our life for them. So I don't appreciate someone who thinks they're superior because they have the word DOCTOR in front of their name. We are looking at animal care from two different perspectives - clinical vs. emotional. They care about our animals for ten or fifteen minutes a year, unless something major occurs - we care about them 24/7.

You really couldn't of said it better.


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Posted: Mar 12 2004, 04:23 AM
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Sadly all of that doesnt count when it comes to sexual abuse dry.gif
You could risk your life to save your dog but in the second someone says you're having intercourse with your dog your are 'sick' an [EMAIL REMOVED - USE THE PRIVATE MESSAGE SYSTEM], abuser and so on...


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Posted: Mar 12 2004, 04:28 AM
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QUOTE (Honeyraptor @ Mar 11 2004, 10:23 PM)
Sadly all of that doesnt count when it comes to sexual abuse dry.gif
You could risk your life to save your dog but in the second someone says you're having intercourse with your dog your are 'sick' an 'r@pist', abuser and so on...

And that is something that saddens me to my core. I hate thinking about how my love is percieved among the general public. That is something that truly saddens me.


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Posted: Mar 12 2004, 04:36 AM
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And somehow it shows me how much better animals can be! They dont judge you because you're not normal cause you love a dog instead another closedminded human... dry.gif


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Posted: Mar 12 2004, 04:48 AM
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QUOTE (Honeyraptor @ Mar 11 2004, 10:36 PM)
And somehow it shows me how much better animals can be! They dont judge you because you're not normal cause you love a dog instead another closedminded human... dry.gif

You are completely right. Discovering this love has brought me closer to dogs. I love them all so much now where as before I did not. So much good can truly come from so much darkness.


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Posted: Mar 12 2004, 04:52 AM
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smile.gif Where light is is also darkness!
And i concider the love i enjoy with my Benny and all my past loves as the brightest light of my life! I dont care for the darkness that is the rest of the world who judges us by rules that will never fit except to their own blindness for real love...


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Posted: Mar 12 2004, 05:02 AM
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Personaly I think its the zoophile's that brought up the animal rights.
In my own opion of course, but if there were no zoophile's.
What would this world be without them?


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Posted: Mar 12 2004, 05:04 AM
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QUOTE (Honeyraptor @ Mar 11 2004, 10:52 PM)
smile.gif Where light is is also darkness!
And i concider the love i enjoy with my Benny and all my past loves as the brightest light of my life! I dont care for the darkness that is the rest of the world who judges us by rules that will never fit except to their own blindness for real love...

Until we can be understood darkness will haunt out paths. It is up to us to light our way.


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Posted: Mar 15 2004, 07:21 PM
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I don't get it they keep on about abuse at that crap but the animals surely enjoy our love!
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Posted: Mar 15 2004, 07:46 PM
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A big thing that has to happen first:

Perhaps there will come a day when the law in the U.S. will recognize that the only function of the State in regard to marriage is to publicly validate the choices made by consenting adults; then it will get out of the Religion business (where it has no business being, in my "separation of Church & State" opinion). Then LET the Churches refuse to marry me because I have red hair if they want; I don't give a shit!

This will allow people to live with the partners they want to, without the State having to pass a moral judgement on them, which it shouldn't be doing anyway....

Perhaps when we have gotten that far, perhaps then people will look more kindly upon our love. But I don't think it could happen before then, and certainly not in my lifetime....

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