There's a difference between legal and open. Having sex with an animal in the privacy of your own home is not the same as doing it openly in public. That's why you'll never see legalized beastiality videos. I think the poster means when will beastilaity become open and accepted in society.

In my opinion even than, when it will be legalized, a lot of people will NEVER accept us. One time i heard that beastiality videos are legal in holland, I don't know that's true or not maybe someone here knows something about it ?

C'mon people!, lets be optimistic here!, let's look ath the historic lessons,
in movies like Ben Hur they managed discreete gayish scenes, nowdays there is the same attitude towards zooishnes (like planet of the apes remake), in ads, movies and so forth.

My point is people starts flirting with zooishnes, they start using it in ads, as a joke on movies or on tv series, far better than being something of a big taboo where you can put your own fears, like satanic cults or stuf like that

All in all we have a LOT of work to do, but I think we are in the right path (besides, we can organize ourselves better and faster since we have the net)

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Instead of trying to pursuade people that 'animals are people too' and 'we love our lovers just like you do' it might be easier to point out to them that since dogs (for example) enjoy having many parts of thier bodies scratched, rubbed and/or fingered, then they might enjoy having other parts recieving similar treatment.

Putting the emphasis on making the animal feel good might be an easier pill for the public to swallow.

Rona.

historically people were fine with zoo the wife to one roman empror even had beast sex in public for her own plesure and that of the mob.
But in eurpoe over the last 1500yrs it has been seen as very primal and beastal in nature and not a act of loveing union.
The exact same parrales with public attitued can be folowed with the peoples attitueds to sex with moniors an as i sertanly hope we all hear are againts that.
Thus i think in most nations there will never be a time when we will be accaept maby we will not be prosecuted but never accepted.

And not to forget Skin2, Caligula made love to his stallion a few times, possibly before he made him a senator. :)

I think that during the last 1500 years christianity has been kinda ruling and it's basic thought has been that sex with animals has been connected to areas of witchcraft and devil worship not to forget some think that one is league with demons or devils as it's unnatural. It was also thought that sex with animals WOULD result in offspring which would be highly deformed, but you don't need sex with animals to get deformed children. Look at the Elephantman. I DOUBT that his mom had gotten humped by an elephant.
Alos I think that the "line between Man & Animal" got more defined during that era and Man thought of itself as being superior and if one has sex with animals it may mean that they are on the same level as animals.

I doubt that all or most nations will be as accepting to Zoos as they are to gays. It may be legal to have sex and make love yet I doubt it'll be as easy to make love on the beach with your eek-wine or K9 wife or hubby.

I would prefer as a start that the majority of the human kind would realize our love fur these lovely creatures and not compare our passions with those who are into human children. That they understand that there is a BIG difference between them.

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Thank you Svadilfari i think you put the point more eliganlty than i did but shared the same ponits

Thank you very much Skin2 :) Just saying the way I feel about this. I feel it sad that the opinion of Zoo is the way it is. They say that they all try and work against all forms of discrimination, but when it comes to Zoo that doesn't seem to apply there. Instead they try and ridicule us. It's always (it seems) easier to make fun of things we don't understand than it is finding out the facts.

True that there are those that abuse animals, but they are NOT in my opinion true zoophiles. They may either just see the $$-value of them or the $$ they can bring in, or also just feel that they are better in owning alot of animals but can't be bothered or can't take care of them properly.

I also think that ignorance is a very human trait. For many it's easier to not research things to know how things are, to understand the facts fully as that means they have to take a stand. It's also possible that if they actually DID know the facts behind Zoophilia they may actually change their minds and for many it's possibly pride or something else that makes them feel hard to change.

It could also be that they feel that they are superior, both in mind and etc to animals making themselves feel special and exclusive. To stand out against the rest. The rest being animals in general.

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I do not see this happening in my lifetime. The very fact that we are zoos sets us apart from the rest. How can they ever understand if their minds are not able? Someone with a musical "gift" can not explain how to play music to someone who is tone deaf. It is my understanding that we all (zoos) have a special gift of animal empathy. Trying to explain this to someone who isn't zoo is futile. :whistling:

This is kind of closed minded, don't you think? Someone can still be open minded to it and not like it. Saying something like that is making you just like the people who refuse to accept you.

How can you expect anyone to understand you if you assume they wont, or automaticly group them into a category of not being able to understand if they do not agree with you?

I'm going to give an example here. My boyfriend is not into beast at all. When he found out my interests he didn't like it at all and showed some negative actions against it. What do you think would of happened if I instantly blew him off and didn't give a chance for both of us to voice our opinions? He wouldn't be here now, that's for sure. It would of caused a huge rift in our relationship.

But you know what? I gave him a chance and in return, he gave me the same chance. Now, he may not like it, but he accepts that I do like animals.

I know not everyone would be able to do this, having an open mind like he did, but if you group *everyone* like that.. then you're never going to find people who accept you.

I'm not trying to be negative or anything.. I'm just trying to say, if you want someone else to take a step.. you have to too.

Good point Stub. I often say, (all things considered.....harm, danger, etc....) people don't have to like what others do BUT they should NOT go about preventing that person from indulging in their likes.

Having an open mind I can understand and respect someone for not liking zoo. What I don't support is that person judging, condeming or stopping (or trying to stop) others from liking it.

Eventually it will be legalized in North America (assuming this is where most of the people posting here are from). I'm only 20 years old, but I see zoophilia being more and more rampent eveywhere. Movies are hinting at it, TV shows are too, last time I was on the subway reading a local Toronto newspaper, where suprise suprise, there was a whole page and article dedicated to zoophilia. It even mentioned this website in it.

It's just looked down upon by society with the above mentioned reasons...oh it's satanic etc etc...raping animals...against their will this and that...but in reality the opposition knows nothing about it. Just like I used to be biased towards homo's, and many people still are, society looks at us the same way. Once someone proves that these animals actually want to hump the shit out of people of their own free will, it will come out into the open and peoples opinions will change...

Of course...like someone said here...it probably won't be in this lifetime...

I personally don't care anyways...I don't need to parade myself around the streets saying I'm an animal lover...what's important to me is that I can have animals...and what I might or might not do with them (and vice versa) will be in my house behind closed doors. The day they start installing cameras in homes and have "Big Brother" watching...Ill be in trouble ;)

lava is right. i see/hear about bestiality a lot now a days... not to mention that one time i saw a woman playing with a rottweilers balls at a public dog adoption... everyone saw it. to my suprise, no one stopped her. THAT'S A GOOD SIGN!!!