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should you come out?
Come out to friends? [ 49 ]  [14.41%]
Come out to family? [ 6 ]  [1.76%]
Stay hidden? [ 149 ]  [43.82%]
Tell your lover? [ 136 ]  [40.00%]
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Cetacean
Posted on Dec 4 2004, 10:28 PM
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My family knows nothing and I don't think I'll ever tell because I fear it won't go down very well - I've got a good relationship will all of my family members right now and I'm not going to risk becoming an outcast. I think some of my friends know my sexuality differs from the norm but they've never asked about it and I don't see/feel a need to tell them.
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Posted on Dec 12 2004, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE (Psychomek @ Dec 2 2004, 02:29 AM)
already came out to several friends... but i'm about to come to my lover in a couple of hours

Well I came out to my lover yesterday.... Sad to say he didn't take it very well. I am moving out as of January.
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Posted on Dec 12 2004, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (Psychomek @ Dec 12 2004, 01:36 PM)
QUOTE (Psychomek @ Dec 2 2004, 02:29 AM)
already came out to several friends...  but i'm about to come to my lover in a couple of hours

Well I came out to my lover yesterday.... Sad to say he didn't take it very well. I am moving out as of January.

I'm very sorry to hear that, Psycho. I had tried to discuss this with my ex-husband once and was told I was sick to even think about it. I had never mentioned it to anyone prior to that, and never again since......until I had left him and started seeing someone else. The person I told was very open to it, and encouraged me to talk about it. He was the person who told me about bestiality.com. That was almost 3 years ago. One day, you'll meet someone special that you can be yourself with, and this will all be worthwhile.
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Posted on Dec 12 2004, 11:47 PM
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I didn't come out, but my wife discovered I was having sex with our Irish Setter. She got pretty upset, but after getting rid of the dog, and my promising I would refrasne from engaging in animal sex, she told no one and stayed with me. After her death I started having sex with animals again. This time I am being carefull not to let any one find out. Once was enough.
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Posted on Dec 13 2004, 01:10 AM
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Well I say stay hidden unless your lover does not mind. You would have to see what his/her reaction would beto sudjestions, I would only tell her if she was positive.
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Posted on Dec 13 2004, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE (bubjones @ Dec 12 2004, 11:47 PM)
I didn't come out, but my wife discovered I was having sex with our Irish Setter. She got pretty upset, but after getting rid of the dog, and my promising I would refrasne from engaging in animal sex, she told no one and stayed with me. After her death I started having sex with animals again. This time I am being carefull not to let any one find out. Once was enough.

Sorry to hear about that. Getting caught in most cases end up being a compromise, of the worst kind. The damage has been done now so you cannot turn back unless she consents.
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Posted on Dec 13 2004, 11:50 AM
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Hello

I have found the majority of people I come in social contact would not excercise their critical thinking and acceptance skills if presented with my ACTUAL practice of K9 to woman love. Though I suspect if I could pole the women in that sample a measurable percentage of those from the city life (men to a far lessor extent)would have thought about being at least licked in an emotional way, at some time in their life by their family pet; that number would be a larger percentage of men and women from the rural and farming areas. That statistics baer this out.

With respect to SELF and ChI its seems the home unit should be a source of harmony (balance) and having that intimate balance should be our goal not necessarily announcing any particular facet of our lives to those who fall merely in the social contact catagory. The other goal of home should be to spend that time with someone accepting of us for who we are;but my own experience tells me that's not easy.

I spent a marriage and many girlfriends in the closet, now I am in my 40's (phase II of my adult lfe) the part where I am supposed to have who I am finally figured out. I feel like the elephant is no longer standing on my testicles because I search purposfully for people who understand. I will not enter phase III (50's and 60's) enjoying who I am and what I have done without ensuring the person closest to me supports me. That will make the last stage --the remembering (and all I will have left) all the more pleasant.

Inside the animal lover community there are niches some of US consider odd or worse -but to each their own as long as no spirit is being injured. We cannot stick our head in the dirt and pretend this lifestyle will one day be socially accepted in our lifetime (for sure not in America where things seem to be regressing not progressing); That said, there are enough beautiful people capable of accepting us or practicing in the mind if not in deeds. We just need to seek each other out much the way the swingers and other lifestyle players do.

On the main issue of disclosure for disclosure's sake--I would NOT cause harm to a family member or close friend whom I knew could not get their mind around this. As for those average social contacts, I don't see the point, especially in today's charged secular enviroment. We cannot nor do we need to confur any legal status to our pets(lovers)--acknowledging that situation in the early part of this century WOULD NOT increase the harmony of the home unit where as the Gay community absolutely should excercise this position (who I am, who I love).


Thanks for reading my run-ons.
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Posted on Dec 13 2004, 03:39 PM
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I guess i'm just lucky.... I told my parents... I told my friends.... and everybody accepted me the way I am... When I finally came out to my dad he just said.. '' That's it ??'' as if it was nothing... i feel incredibly relieved from tha come out.....

some of you should try... i thnk its the best move ive done in my life...
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Posted on Dec 14 2004, 12:11 AM
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My sympathy Psycho. Its always tough to loose someone you care about and move out, been there. I have to comend you though on your bravery in comming out to her. I have wanted to however never found the right oppurtunity to do so. I think you shoudl be honest with your lover or signifant other beacuse it does come down to a form of cheating. If the K9, or horse were a man or woman it woudl be so why woudl it be different for an animal?
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Posted on Dec 15 2004, 03:03 PM
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Generally I keep my mouth shut. Wife is sickened by very thought or mention of anything like this.

Old GF looked at me like I had two heads but dealt with it..

Another former (maybe former) lover was sort of intrested in having a large enough breed mount her some how.. :wub: might have to look her up again.
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Posted on Dec 15 2004, 03:40 PM
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Hi all
23 years old here and still young. Current Girlfriend would prolly have a heartattack if she knew what I was into. Parents would for sure too. I dream and desire of being in a relationship with a like minded fellow zoo or at least find a group of zoos i can share my interst and feelings with. This has been hard if not impossible so far in my life. Maybe things will get better in the future. I sure hope so cause this is not leaving my mind, my desires or my life anytime soon. SOmewhat confused on what to do :(

Love this forum sooooo much though
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Posted on Dec 16 2004, 02:25 AM
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QUOTE (ohtrav @ Dec 16 2004, 12:40 AM)
Hi all
23 years old here and still young. Current Girlfriend would prolly have a heartattack if she knew what I was into. Parents would for sure too. I dream and desire of being in a relationship with a like minded fellow zoo or at least find a group of zoos i can share my interst and feelings with. This has been hard if not impossible so far in my life. Maybe things will get better in the future. I sure hope so cause this is not leaving my mind, my desires or my life anytime soon. SOmewhat confused on what to do :(

Love this forum sooooo much though

Well may be just a few beast joke and guage her response to them and if she is positive go a bit further like ask you opinion outright. ( Like what do you think about people having sex with animals.)
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Posted on Dec 16 2004, 02:58 AM
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Hio all,

Well, I selected "come out to friends", but I guess I'm sort of an odd case.... My mother (only living parent) suspects, and ridicules me in private for it, lambasts me in public for it (to relatives mostly), but she complains so much I don't think many believe her. I'd had to deny it to some, for their sake (family quarrels... don'tcha love 'em?), but nearly all of my.... I take that back. All of my close friends know, and many acquaintances. My vet knows (mother told him) but he's never mentioned it to me, so either doesn't believe it or doesn't judge (I doubt he's a zoo himself... or at least no longer is... Nice gent but has a bit of a 'tude about animals honed by decades of veterinary practice). And especially my GF, who is zoo too BTW. Had several relationships go down the flusher for coming out to them, but... darn. I'm happier now than I thought ever could be possible, knowing it's all cool with my GF, and she knows I'm cool with her preferences too. :D :twisted: But with many other areas, I keep it under wraps, as it could/would be problematic to potentially-fatal for many of my own endeavors, as well as my GF's career (zookeeper! You can use your imagination of the reaction of boardroom prudes). But having said that, I know the look in my pups' eyes make it all worthwhile. Anyway, that's my two cents' worth. :)

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Posted on Dec 16 2004, 07:53 AM
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I finnaly found the right moment. I came out to my lover last night. Well i shoudl say ex-lover. We are no longer romanticaly involved. She said she coudlen't have relations with me thinking i might be thinking else wise. :inlove: ... :heart: :cat: However I feel this was the chep out as she has always hated my work ethic :angry: , very very comited and strong, and is jsut using this as an excuse. I would say that I'm hurt but, i'm not. :D If she can't except me for me then were better off apart. Am I wrong in thinking that? In any event I was extreamly suprised that she didn't say i was sick or anyhing. However she was cuirous to know if i woudl seek 'help' for it. :w00t: Of course I delined and said i would embrace it :P . So far besides the readers of this forum, shes the only one that knows.
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Posted on Dec 16 2004, 08:26 PM
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Well Dogbert.... and Psycho.... here's my couple cents' worth.

I've had relationships fall apart from telling my partner I was a zoophile. A couple were "grossed out" by it, a couple intrigued by it, and one... well... went berzerk. I hope for your sakes that if you have pets you're regularly intimate with that you're in a state or province that doesn't have laws against zoophilia/bestiality for you could potentially lose your lover (the four-legged one) for good. *sighs* I've been fortunate that my former human-partners have been thoughtful enough to see that I truly care about my dogs' well-being and although they disagree with what and how I am, are compassionate enough not to report me to the authorities lest I lose my dogs, and could face 5 years in prison, being convicted of a felony (and yes, they now have "rape kits" for animls to get a DNA sample.... so nonoxyl-9 in a douche works wonders.... though if you're in their bumhole it'll be enlarged more than a nonzoo dog's would). But anyway, I know we (the previous GFs) parted ways for a reason, and I'm glad now that I didn't settle for someone who couldn't accept my love for my dogs.... for now I have a GF that not only is zoo-tolerant, she's a zoophile herself. :wub: So happy endings do come out of sorrowful goodbyes. And for what it's worth, one of the quotes I try to live by is "To thine own self be true" - - Wm Shakespeare.

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