I consider myself a true zoo. I had an affectionate love for every animal I had, long before I started thinking of them sexually.

i consider my self to be a true zoo. i realised i was a zoo when i was 14 and it was the best thing that ever happened to me :lol:

Well, I'll stick my neck out and say I don't consider myself a "true zoo" or even a zoophile. I'm basically your average str8 guy, I guess: doing some dating, wondeirng if something will happen with one of my female friends, and hoping that one day, one of my girflriends or flings or whaterver will "stick" and become something serious.

I generally "like" animals, and have been emotionally attached to various animals, far more of them than the few that I have had sex with. I belive many animals experience emotions and attachments for human companians. I enjoy playing with dogs in a non-sexual way, and have many times plesaantly curled up on a couch, snuggled up with a friend's or roommate's dog.


That said, I've had, and have, a definite physical / sexual attraction to certain animals, indiviually (some female dogs) and as a species (female dolphins and deer, I think are particulary sexy) The few dogs I've been intimate with were animals I'd known for some time and liked. The sex was always consensual and I would not ever force myself on an animal, in the same way that I'd never physically or emtotionally beat or torture one. The easiest way to explain it is that I seemed to view these dogs almost as I would view a "casual" human sex partner: we're comfortable with each other, I was attracted to her, and she was a willing partner (I don't knwo if a dog is "attracted" to a human sexually, which is why I didn't say "she wanted me, too" but the one dog with whom I'd had sex on many occasions truly appeared to me to be enthusiastic and excited when we began to fool around).

So where that puts me on the scale, or what label that means I should wear, I don't know, or really care too much about.

It was the best thing that has ever happened to me as well. It brough out so much. Fellings and emotions that I thought were non existent. it changed my life in so many ways for the better. It is amazing how much of an effect it can have.

As long as you cared for the animals and would never harm them then you are a true zoo. I know that knowbody cares for labels but you should consider yourself to be a true zoo. Not being zoo exclusive has nothing to do with being a zoophile. You care to much for animals to be a beastialist. You are a zoophile.

Well, ---2---, I've been called a lot of things over the years, but "zoo" isn't one of them. I'll take it as a compliment. :) Using yuour definition though, and I really don't see anythig wrong with it, it seems to me that alot of people would fit into this category, most pet owners, for example, although most of them never have sex with their pets. But I guess the real question is sort of the converse: even if most people who are "zoo" never have sex with animals, are most people who do have sex with animals "zoo"?

I would guess that people who are zoo, or let's just say, people who like animals, would be more likely than those who don't like animals to at least experiemnt with sex with them. This is sort of what happened with me, at first. Then, I suspect that there are alot of people who, as teenagers or young adults, had a pet or access to other animals, such as a farm or a friend's pet, and engaged in sex with an animal once or a few times, but although they may have enjoyed it, did not continue it for various reasons. They may have felt guildty about doing it, and more so about enyoing it, or they may have been only curious, and, frankly, just plain horny, and the animal was a convenient (and we hope, willing) partner.

Then I guess, there are those who are "zoo exlcuive" (or predominantly zoo?) who look to animas for companionship, relationships and sex as, and I hate to use this word, but - an "orientation." I profess, I am pretty much ignorant in this regard. Though I will say, I have never met an animal that was an a--hole or that I hae disliked the way I do some people. So maybe these folks are onto something. ;)

Then maybe there are those of us who like animals, and enjoy sex with them, but for whom it is simply fun; a casual, although intimate and respectiful activitiy. I guess I'd put myself here.

Now I don't know about those who just "use" animals for sex. Maybe some people have sex with animals that are willing, or at least indifferent, and aren't concerned with whether the animal enjoys it. I sort of think of stories you hear of kids having sex with cows and sheep on the farm growing up...just a way to get off. (Not to slight anyone who does this...for all I know the sheep and cows could really like it, and I can't imagine that a teenage boy could really "force" a 600 lb. cow to do anything she wasn't willing to do) The point being that maybe here the animal is just a convenient partner, and while its human lover doesn't intend to harm it in any way, and would be upset if he did, he is really only concerned with his own pleasure. Some people certainly act this way with their human lovers, so I suspect it wouldn't be any different if their partner was an animal.

Sorry, rambling here. But it is an interesting topic.

Hello Dogger37. You are right this is indeed a very interesting topic. It covers such a large range of emotions and feelings towards animals.

Personally I am zoo exclusive. I don't think that I will ever again be able to trust a person. I have found how much love an animal can have towards a human, and that love is pure. The purest that I have found as it is so natural. You can find a lot of my history in the pages of this forum spred through out different threads. Also I have no sexual interest in humans. Only in animals.

I agree so much with what you wrote of people being zoophilies and not even realizing it. Many people have a deep love for their animals. Just because they do not take that love to the next step, does not make them any less of a zoophile. I have not had sex with an animal in the past for a couple of reasons. The first being that my dogs have shown no interest in doing so. I would never do something that they did not want. Secondly I would feel bad having sex with an animal that I did not know. I feel very much that sex should come as a result of a loving relationship. Without the love it just seems so hollow.

when I started this post I had not thought about the varying degrees of zoophilia and beastiality for that matter. For the sake of simplicity I just wanted to make 2 category's. Either zoo or beast. You my friend definately fall under the zoo side as you care for the animals that you are intimate with. That fits well into the definition of a zoo.

Although many among us ere not aware, there's a great difference between zoophilia and bestiality. Zoophilia comes from the ancient greek, and means "animal love". When you love a boy or a girl you also feel the need to make love with him/her. The same way, zoophilist make love with his/her pet. Bestiality is just the habit of having sex with animals and is sometimes considereted as a kind of perversion.

I feel the same about it - now.As a teenager I didn't care much..

Last summer I was given into a situation like that.I took home a stray white/grey mutt bitch,hoping that I would find her a loving person who'd adopt her (however,I was unable doing so for some reasons that I don't want to tell here).
She was in heat and was very horny as well.Just like me.But I decided not to have sex with her (and this resulted in a pain "down there" that lasted for one week :ph34r: ).I fell in love with Luna completely (she got this name by me) from the first second I saw her.The temptation was immense and burning inside of me.If I were my "teenager self" I would have mated her without much ado,but I fought my urgent feelings back.It was not easy though,after all I have to say I feel like I did the right thing.
This wasn't one of my best experiences,not because of not having sex but the outcome of it.I'm still sad because I could not turn a poor being's life into a much better she deserves.

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Bold Question! Definitely Zoo by stated definition. I'd like to ask that of anyone of any
sexuality. The essence of that question is; Do you primarily see sex as a personal or
shared experience? Is your concentration mostly on your own pleasure or is part of your
own pleasure providing pleasure to others? If you asked that question of the general population about sex in general, and people answered honestly, those figures would be reversed. Thats what I like about what Im seeing at this site. Since it involves animals and people who love them, there is an inordinate number of LOVING sexual people here. (In a site dedicated to Zoophilia... who'd a thunk it?) Sex, as defined by our clearly sexually ill-culture, is a commodity(as is everything), so most people out there treat it that way. Nice to see the reverse here. Sex as defined here seems to be more about love and communication through shared pleasuring.:inlove:
I feel sorry for the self described beastialists, moreso their victims. Do they even hang out after and feel a little fondness and pet the critter? If they dont thats cold sociopathy to this cat.:sick::bad: I dont have a dog in my own life and cant right now.:( So for me its about dog buddies I know or a random randy rendez-vous, if I have a dalliance. And yes he has to be into it! ;)

So the question is then...If I spy a handsome akita over a fence who wants to play and when I go into play and after a bit "see" he's a horny boy and proceed to shenanigans to both our pleasure and amusement,:w00t: and I do get an instant crush :heart: on him, but know I may never get a chance to even play with him again. Is that unkind?
More succinctly: Who feels we should only have intimacy with an animal we have a relationship with? That "belongs in our care"?
Is casual but considerate sex with a willing animal a careless act?:huh:
I'd love to hear all your thoughts

This is my first post!!! :rock:

This site is sooo unlike other sites. As I say, its cool to find place where loving sex is the rule, despite our peculiar niche. I think there's something very totemic about all this passion with other life forms. We may be shamans/shamankas. :sorcerer:

Singing Dog :flowers:

PS If that akita or otherwise over the fence was a female I'd feel about it all the same, except sex would never come up as a subject. I'd still even have a crush if we got along real well. Have before, will again.

This post has been edited by Singing Dog on Mar 22 2006, 07:16 AM