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Honeyraptor
  Posted: Mar 6 2004, 05:44 AM
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Ok, this is a question that is bothering me for months now.

Since i got online and started visiting zooboards i found posts and threads everywhere from people offering their animals to eveyone who wants to go down with them. I allways found that strange and atleast to me wrong.
Please dont get me wrong, i dont want to judge those people! As i said in an other post i would share my love if she/he wants it too! But only with someone which i would know very well and whom i would trust totaly! Up to day there is only one out there!
But more then once i read things like: Dog available for shootings! or Trained dog available for sex! or like on an german forum where someone offerd his bitches for money!!
To me the love was allways the most importand thing so im maybe seeing everything a bit to seriously.

Same thing with all those animals in the movies and clips. I allready got explained that its not that worse as i thought it was but still i feel a bit strange when i see one dog (esp. bitches) apearing in three or more movies allways with different human actors.
Again please dont get me wrong, i enjoy watching those clips im just wondering how those people think about their animals.
As some of you are around here i would be realy glad if you could take a few seconds to answere.

No feel free to bash me to the ground ;)
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Posted: Mar 6 2004, 05:54 AM
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Well I personally think that sharing your lover is extremely worng. Your lover is not a commodity that you can lend to people for their satisfaction. Love should be sacred whether that love be between a person or an animal. Unfortunately to many people don't share the same feelings for their animals and as a result people will do what they like with disregard to the animal. People will also do whatever they can to get their hands on more money, like pimping a dog (yell at me if you want but that is what it is). I wish that everybody in this world or even just in this forum could see their animal for what they are. A loving being that puts so much trust into you. Always think of how your animal feels before you do anything. If you don't then you are just another animal abuser that should be thrown in jail.
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Posted: Mar 6 2004, 08:52 AM
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HELL NO !!!! Be like someone sharing their girlfriend with another guy and he has AIDS. You never know whats crawling around out there and in people for that matter. So I feel they should not even ask. Them asking for you to do it, tells me that they are more into beastiality and just want sex and thats it. If they would be true zoos, then they would make plans to have their own animal that they themselves can love and mate with and not screw their brains out and the hell with what the animal feels. :angry: The other problem to is, you never really know whos who, or how they treat their animals. You can see in the photo board that mind sure gets abused enough, abused with attention, love and then sex.

That would be one other thing I'd like to see the Mods do if they are able to, delete posts from others that ask to screw someone elses animal. That is just wrong, nasty, sick, and abusive. Get your own animal. If you can't afford it, then get a job. If you have one then get two. Get and do what it takes to please yourself and your animal lover. Don't be a sicko or lazy ass and ask someone else to screw their dog, unless that person doesn't do it with the dog in the first place. If so then, build a real great relationship with the animal. :D You and the animal (s) will be happier and enjoy it even more.
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Allan
Posted: Mar 6 2004, 01:33 PM
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^^^^^
yet another with no comprahensoin of how love works


I met Neju when my mothers dog ran away,, I fell in love the second I saw her,, it is odd how you know some one is your true soule mate and whene they are not,,
We hade the perfect relationship,, Loving, passionate, Sensual, trusting,,,
I would walk by her side while she grazed in the field, keept her warm when it rained, spent houres combing her,, we did every thing togeather as one. but did not "" own her "" <<despise that term,,.

I agree about sharing just for sex,, but in essence you have just insulted me and meney others...,, I have met some one who is allowing me to date theyr mare,, and I hope to find love once again, and the abillity of not having to hide my love towards her is another great benifite,,, when Neju died a large part of me died with her and nothing could ever fill that hole,, but bing able to give the same kind of love & Devotion to another will be a start to heal,, only if She(the Mare) is intersted


Life is complex and dynamic,, thats why the weather report is all ways wrong
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Honeyraptor
Posted: Mar 6 2004, 11:46 PM
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Allan: Hmm... I have to admit, no i dont know how love works... To me it was allways just a word! But the meaning of it was the sharing of the closness of body and soul. The sharing of pain and pleasure, of good times and bad times - to allways stand together - to care for each other... I have to say that im a very emotional and romantic person! And to everyone else these words might only sound like the babble of another better zoo or another stupid young guy. Maybe im way to serious about the whole issue due my experiencs and past, and maybe this isnt the right place for such an question/debate...

I never wanted to insulted anyone, i just want to understand and the only way i can do that is by questioning!

Let me be more precise on what i wanted to say in my first post about the sharing thing:
I allways concidert my lovers as beings with an own mind, able to decide on their own, to deicde if they want to do something or not.
If a fellow zoo would visit me and my mate would show sexuall affection towards him i wouldnt deny both the pleasure. But only if i could be totaly sure that both agree!! I would never lend her/him to no one just for sex and/or money or even for some experimenting...

Im very sorry if i have insulted anyone or just misunderstood the whole thing...
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Posted: Mar 7 2004, 12:11 AM
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Hello. I don't feel that you should have to apolagize for posting any of your personal thoughts or feelings Honeyraptor. We are all different so therefor we all don't have the same thoughts or feelings. If anyone was insulted by my post I don't care. Those are just my interpretations upon the subject and I will not apolagize for posting my personal thoughts or feelings. So if any one has a problem with my post give me your address and I will send you a kleenex.
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Posted: Mar 7 2004, 12:17 AM
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I did'nt even bother reading the posts in here but of that of my friends.
Share? all I can say about that is W t F?!

Sharing is ok to a degree but to share your mate for sex or love or both, that is just messed up... you share your mate you are one a beastilist and two heartless...

I have much much more to say on this but right now I'm just to messed up from the flu and the T3's and all I will post more on this later...
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Posted: Mar 7 2004, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE (Honeyraptor @ Mar 6 2004, 05:44 AM)
Ok, this is a question that is bothering me for months now.

Since i got online and started visiting zooboards i found posts and threads everywhere from people offering their animals to eveyone who wants to go down with them. I allways found that strange and atleast to me wrong.
Please dont get me wrong, i dont want to judge those people! As i said in an other post i would share my love if she/he wants it too! But only with someone which i would know very well and whom i would trust totaly! Up to day there is only one out there!
But more then once i read things like: Dog available for shootings! or Trained dog available for sex! or like on an german forum where someone offerd his bitches for money!!
To me the love was allways the most importand thing so im maybe seeing everything a bit to seriously.

Same thing with all those animals in the movies and clips. I allready got explained that its not that worse as i thought it was but still i feel a bit strange when i see one dog (esp. bitches) apearing in three or more movies allways with different human actors.
Again please dont get me wrong, i enjoy watching those clips im just wondering how those people think about their animals.
As some of you are around here i would be realy glad if you could take a few seconds to answere.

No feel free to bash me to the ground ;)

Honey this was an excellent question....

The question is so mind provoking that I have not even been able to bring myself

to answer it... It is ultimately for me the moment of truth.....



Deep sighhhhhh....... Simply put I love porn and would not give it up for nothing.

Even porn that I find offensive is still worth collecting because I will turn around

and share it with someone telling them this is what you dont want to do and

why....


I agree whole heartedly with what ...2... has written but to say I support that view

is to say I am a hypocrite.... I am a hypocrite because I continue to collect and

view all the porn that is being posted on the Movie Swap Shop board and

everyone knows those movies are not homemade movies meaning that it is not

somone with their own pet..... 99% of those movies are being produced with an

actor and someone elses dog or any other animal it happens to be. So for me to

continue to support the material is not a true Zoophile.... If you are true then your

heart would be a pure as 2's is.

Today I learn yet another thing about myself and with this new found knowledge I

am sad.... I am a hypocite....and I am only a Zoo when it is convient for me to

say I am Zoo :(
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  Posted: Mar 7 2004, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE (Honeyraptor @ Mar 6 2004, 11:46 PM)
If a fellow zoo would visit me and my mate would show sexuall affection towards him i wouldnt deny both the pleasure. But only if i could be totaly sure that both agree!! I would never lend her/him to no one just for sex and/or money or even for some experimenting...

That is how I feel about this sharing thingy.. B)
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Honeyraptor
Posted: Mar 7 2004, 05:34 AM
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---2---: Well you're right i dont need to defend what i said but as Allan said i insulted him and many others i needed to clarify or even explain what i wrote ;)

I dont wanted to insult anyone! All i want to do is understand, the whole thread was not ment to blame anyone ;) But thanks for the support! :)


Spirit: Im glad you decided to answer nontheless. I would like to hear the opinions of as many members as possible. :)


Wendy: Well im the same, im a collector. And i allways watched those movies and picture with pleasure. I dont like the idea behind the movies but still i like them. Thats why these questions bothering me for so long...
Its hard to accept that some thing we like also look wrong to us... :unsure:

BitchFool: The welth of my mate allways comes first. Glad to see you see it the same way :)
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Posted: Mar 8 2004, 12:43 AM
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Honeyraptor, you stated quite clearly in your original post that you were not attempting to insult or pass judgement, only express your opinion and seek that of others. If Allan was insulted after reading that, it was by his own insecurities, not your words. It's his problem to deal with.

On the topic, my personal opinion is that it is ethically wrong to decide ANY animal dependant on you for his/ her health and safety should be given over to another human for their sexual enjoyment. One clear and absolute reason: Though you can and should have control over the animal and the influences on their body and mind, you cannot feasibly control another human interacting with that animal. You lose control, you lose the ability to protect and care for your animal. That should NEVER be done except where turning control of the animal over to another human benifits more than threatens the animals health (Vet check-ups/ procedures, etc.)

The few minutes enjoyment, if even that, aren't benifit enough to the animal to justify endangering them. You could "know" the other human for years and still never know that in any situation they will not cause harm to your companions, intentionally or unintentionally. Saying you helped so and so get his rocks off is no consolation when doing so caused you to lose a loved one. (And it certianly is just so and so getting his rocks off. A few moments sex doesn't build a relationship)

Now, if there are folks "insulted" by my opinion, be insulted. I won't apologise for your inability to tolerate an opinion different than your own.
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Allan
Posted: Mar 8 2004, 05:44 PM
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Dear Honeyraptor,,, It is I who will apoligies to you, for you were not the target of my statmen but rather wolfie was,,,

He assumend that it is a perfect devide..... but things are much too complex... There have been some rather good arguments on bolth sides so far,, and your post was a verry good one for such a debate... :D

I too feel as you do about the romance,, I spend houres courting all my lovers/mates and houres more on forplay, we indulge eachothers lust, desire, passion, towrads each other... How wonder full it would be If We could be mates for life ! :)

But there is no hope,, for I can barly survive my self.. I can only offer my mate my truest of love, wether it is for life or one night.
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Posted: Mar 8 2004, 06:14 PM
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I will and have, but only to people I know well and trust. My dog being male, is always willing and I think it would be selfish to deny him something he would enjoy because of what human society says is right or wrong. Monogamy is not a concept that many animals understand. So yes, I share but very very rarely.
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Posted: Mar 8 2004, 06:33 PM
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Try touching 'm.

Forget about the Rottweilers.

Fear me.


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Honeyraptor
Posted: Mar 9 2004, 01:09 AM
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Silverwolf: Hmm, i understand what you're saying. I agree and i have to admit that was something i havent thought about... Of course i wouldnt dare to risk his/her welth for anything, not even for getting his/her rocks of as you said. But on the other hand wouldnt it be also risky if i would let my mates mate with another dog?

Allan: Apologize accepted :) I understand your point and i wish i could keep my loves for ever. Sadly that will never happen...

Ilikeit: Hard but good point :lol:

This post has been edited by Honeyraptor on Mar 9 2004, 01:19 AM
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