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> Have You Ever Doubted ?, Zoophilia.
WendyWinks2
Posted: May 27 2004, 03:14 AM
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QUOTE (silverwolf1 @ May 1 2004, 03:13 AM)
-2- my friend, you do post the tough questions, really look for the meaning behind who and what folks are or feel.

To your question:

I don't doubt today that my sexual or emotional love for my partner is "right or wrong" due to her species, however though I'd love to say I never doubted, I cannot.

In my youth, when I first felt a stirring of sexual interest for a non-human (a shetland pony mare named misty) I knew little of 'right or wrong' in sexuality. I was after all only 10. I did know that I had to 'hide' my sexual interest, which I also never explored beyond 'touching'.

Why I knew it was something to be hidden was that I was also exploring my sexuality with a human, and she told me that that had to be 'our secret'. No, I wasn't 'abused'. She was a year older than me. Over time, she 'taught' me things to do with her, things I always felt I was "bad" for doing. I think today I felt so because she told me they were bad things.

I had a little dog named Ginger, my first true love among non humans, and with her in bed at night, I explored some of the things my human partner showed me. Oddly, though I still knew it should be 'hidden', I didn't have that shame-filled feeling I had with the girl.

"Sue" (not her real name) killed herself just as we were entering our teen years. Though I found out years later her step-father had been raping her since she was 5, at the time all I was told was that "some-one" had been doing bad things with her. I went years believing I was that "some-one". Convinced in my youthful mind that I had hurt Sue having sex with her, I also began to believe I was 'hurting' my other partner, Ginger. Though I did not turn her affection away, or try to distance myself emotionally from her, I "doubted" my own feelings toward her, both attraction and emotion.

I went through my teen years believing myself to be an 'abuser' of sorts, a 'bad guy' who used women, and who was 'using' Ginger. I guess in a way I was a victim of the abuse Sue suffered.

Anyway, I came to terms with who I was a bit earlier than many do, realising that I hadn't caused Sues death, that though it was 'expected' of me to play the part of the womanising 'star player' in high school didn't mean I had too, and with the help of a really good friend discovering that I could love physically without barring emotional love.

Still, I continued to feel I was 'using' Ginger as we lay in bed at night. It was not until she died the year I graduated that I began to realise how much her love meant to my self.

For years (more than the 5 I claim in my stories) I still felt 'odd' or 'wrong' when I found my physical attraction directed to a non-human, even as I grew in human relationships, some good, some not so good, and questioned the part of me that wanted even just the companionship of a dog. I frankly didn't 'trust' my self not to abuse, not to selfishly use the dog while giving nothing back.

By the time I met Tippy, I'd been engaged once (she died too), been in several really good relationships, and yet always found my life wanting...something. I didn't know what. And I still felt a stirring I didn't understand when I'd meet a particularly pretty bitch or mare. I trusted my self by this time. Life and what it threw at me had shown me I would handle things the 'right' way.

I knew the things I did I did for more than just self, yet though I heavily involved myself in activities involving or benifiting non-humans, even while still on active duty, I still denied myself a companionship with a dog. I still doubted my emotional attraction to canines (stronger than my attraction to any other species), and doubted my ability to seperate that desire from the physical desire to them, or to even combine them with-out 'abusing'.

I don't really know to this day what changed, other than the immediate love I felt when I first saw Tippy, knowing I not only loved, but was really "in love" with her, but something did.

Our love progressed, emotionally and physically, and even though the first thought in my mind the day I went to the shelter was that I wanted a companion that would never be anything more than a 'companion', I never once doubted my relationship with Tippy once it began.

I guess it just took me some time to understand the difference between being a 'user' and being a responsible part of a serious relationship wasn't limited by species either.

As always Silverwolf1 an interesting read.... thank you so much for sharing...

Wendy
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Posted: May 27 2004, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE (thowra @ May 1 2004, 05:18 AM)
Interesting to read your posts i see one common thing in them LOVE i have found the same in my human relations .Could it be we all feel some sort of guilt about haveing sex regardless .I mean i used to feel guilty after a one night stand it wasnt untill i fell in love that everything felt right ,is this because when in love we give ourself totally and unconditionaly to our lover and it no longer seems like taking.

Well now thats an interesting theory!!!
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Posted: May 27 2004, 03:46 AM
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zoo is in me since i was born....no question about it





PS..wendy, i have never had a avtar flash through my mind before.yours flashed during some great sex(with my human girlfriend)......thank you..... ;)
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Posted: Jun 4 2004, 02:26 AM
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yes i have. but that is mainly when i get depressed (which is not often). but every time i realize that there is nothing wrong with it so why do i dought my feelings. afterall feelings are the most reliable source for information
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Posted: Jun 5 2004, 04:44 PM
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For me, there was doubt about being a bestialist, which I had ben since I was sexually aware, but the greater struggle was over my homosexuality, which nearly ended in my death. As long as that struggle was going on, everything else was secondary and often sublimated.

But with the death of my Beloved in my arms on 3o August of last year, I was awakened to the truth of my True Nature; that I had been in love with my GSD. The truth of this awakening brought me release; like puzzle pieces falling into place, my life became complete. Though I still carried a deep burden of grief, I had never felt so right.

This, in turn, brought me to BF, which was (and is) a great solace and help; but little did I realize what lie ahead for me. It was soon after that I met a most amazing human, a Zoo, who began a process within me that led to my complete transformation. This very Spring I was set free by him; set free of all the horror, pain, guilt and self hatred which I believed I would carry to my grave. This gift, which was Love itself, has set me completely free. In religious terms, it is referred to as "being saved," though this process involved no god for me, but only the power of Love itself. I have regained my Voice, and my Center, which I believed had been lost forever with the suicide of my best friend, which plunged me into years of Darkness, during which I did great damage, both to myself and others.

While I still struggle with the day to day problems of living in the world, the problems of the Spirit have been swept away; I am Free. This is what my Beloved led me to with her last breath as she left this world, though her body was still in my arms. Her death brought Life to my world, where every tear has been wiped away, and every doubt about myself as a Gay Zoo has been resolved.

And what has this being set free meant to me in real terms? Since then, I have fallen in Love, reconciled with my son, and found the means to pass on the Gift to another, who is also now Free. Who knew that being open to Love would give so much? Yet these are the daily miracles of my life, for which I can never find enough ways to be greatful.

So the short answer to the question was that, yes, I always doubted myself, until I was saved by Love. But now everything is different, and I have no doubt regarding my Zooishness at all. This is perhaps the greatest tribute I can give to my Beloved, the female GSD whose life was my joy for 10 years, and whose death was my Freedom. Without her, I might still walk in Darkness. Thank You.

And, last but not least, my deepest thanks to the one who set me free. I know you will see these words, and you know that I never stop rejoicing. Thank you most for the place where words are no longer necessary.

Peace to all of you.

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Posted: Mar 25 2007, 11:11 PM
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When I first heard of and watched zoophilia and beastial acts I simply thought it was due to sexual situations and was merely responding to it the only way my body knew how. But then when those instances were taken away I still found certain features about animals arousing and beautiful.
I've always been an animal lover I just not to it would be to this degree.
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Posted: Mar 26 2007, 04:26 AM
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I don't recall any time ever being in doubt, shameful, or guilty about it. I've been this way since I was born. The internet simply made me realize I wasn't as "unique" as I thought I was. I have to admit, the very first time I heard about what a "search engine" was, I instantly typed in the word "bestiality" (I didn't know the term "zoophile" at the time) and Actaeon's page popped up. I remember being so proud of that guy for having the balls to have a webpage dedicated to our lifestyle.

In my case, being zoo has literally shaped my life. I work my frigging ass off to make the money to own the land to have the horses to be happy, content, and to be honored with their companionship. In short, I'm proud to be zoo. If nothing else, it has helped me become a productive member of society (the same society that shuns this lifestyle btw....how ironic is that).
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Posted: Mar 26 2007, 08:27 PM
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I never knew about zoophilia before decemeber of 2006. Last october, I found a video of a man having sex with his female dog. It was short, but it really aroused me. I thought I was mentally disturbed for liking it so much, but I didn't really care. I always loved animals, and considered my cat (rest his soul) to be my soulmate, even before I had the internet. I was offered by a samoyed to mount her, but I was walking with my sister, and at the time thought it was "disgusting", and hated myself for wanting to go back to that dog and accept her offer. I found out what zoophilia was back in december, and it described me.

There are times when I wish I was "normal" like everyone else. Seeing my younger sister married, and my older sister with her boyfriend, and me never having a human partner. Parents always asking me "when you gonna get a girlfriend and get married?" and other such questions. People at work wondering the same thing. In my mind, I tell them that I already have one, but I don't dare say it out loud. I wish that I could tell my parents that I love my husky, and we will be intimate when she is old enough, but fear of the near inevitable rejection keeps me from doing so. I make joking references to my coworkers about my zoophilia, saying I would rather have a dog than a woman, and other such references, but I say it in a joking manner, so they don't realize to my knowledge.

My parents say that they wouldn't care if I told them I was a homosexual, but if I told them I was a zoosexual? I don't think that they would be nearly as accepting of that. I love my husky, and she will be and is my mate. I don't feel demented in the head when I am with her, but when I am around other human couples, sometimes I wish that I could be as open with my mate as they are with their's. But I know she loves me, and I love her.
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Posted: May 26 2007, 10:01 PM
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Well i've been a zoo for a long time now, long before i started going on the net. At first yes i thought that there might be something wrong with me and tried to stop all "those" feelings.

Had a few relationships with girls and found that there was always so much extra baggage, outright lies, and half truths. With very little satisfaction or happiness in return. But what really got on my nerves was each and every one of them had their seeming "need" to change something about me(usually the fact that i smoked both cigarettes and pot at the time).

There was one, that i thought i might have found to be the rest of my life with, she actually was interested and played with my boy(yes in that way), we got along great, had similar interests, and the sex was great!!! But she managed to get pregnant while i was NOT in town for a couple months. :angry: and for me everything is based on trust, we still talk once in a blue moon but we've pretty much gone out seperate ways. :(

I don't get them very often anymore, it's more of a regret that i may never have kids of my own. But on the other hand i have my boys now and when i do start to have these feelings again i just look at most of my friends and even a couple family members situations.

Most of them, for the most part aren't happy with their relationships...Some mad because they got their girls pregnant before they were ready(quite a few WAY earlier then they should), or to their GF intentionally got pregnant to try and keep the guy, and still others cheating on each other. The lies about them quitting their bad habits(more then one comes over to have a drink or a smoke/toke hiding from their other half). Then there's the fighting and screaming matches that i've seen as well.

Not to say that all of my friends/relatives aren't happy(my brother and his gf, both of whom live in this house with me tend to be really happy with each other), it's just over all i have it way better and and i'm happier then most.

When my boys are mad at me they'll destroy something(usually chew a pillow or dig a huge pit in the middle of the backyard, been a long while since anything expensive anyway) or make a big mess(although it's kinda funny when they tiolet paper the house), they don't get into a big screaming match anouncing all my flaws to the city or divorce and take half of everything. There's also that i don't have to worry about getting them pregnant by accident(wouldn't that be cool to be able to do though?).

They don't expect me to buy them things all the time, and when i do they're always happy with it no matter what it is. And the BEST thing is that no matter how long i'm gone for, be it 5 mins, 5 hours, or 5 weeks, they always act like it's been years.

Maybe one day i'll meet that person that compliments me but until then i'm more then happy with what i've got :inlove:
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Posted: May 26 2007, 10:51 PM
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Yes. In the beginning I was under the belief that my feelings were wrong. I later met and married a wonderful man, and kept those things from him because I was afraid of his reaction. Over 10 years later, I finally admitted my hidden zoo fantasies and found he had them too! Today, we are a happy and loving couple who enjoy our feelings towards animals because we no longer feel they are wrong.

It's unfortunate that we have to keep our desires hidden from the general public. :evil:
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Posted: May 27 2007, 12:32 AM
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I knew I was a zoo since my teens, but I never had any issues with it. Of course, I never have had the chance to actually *act* on my inclination, but I never felt bad about my desire to, if opportunity presented itself. I guess I always figured, if I wanted to and the animal wanted to as well, where's the problem? I've only ever told a couple people about it, though - not out of shame, but because I don't want to have to deal with the negative reactions I'd probably get from many. I guess it helped that I was raised in a pretty open-minded family - I was taught from as early as I knew about it that homosexuality, for example, is just part of life and nothing disgusting or sinful, and I guess I always figured that any sexual preference should also be accepted, as long as it hurts no one.
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Posted: May 27 2007, 01:50 AM
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No, I have never doubted myself or felt badly about myself because I have sex with female animals. , it is one of the ways that I express my love for my animals.
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Posted: May 27 2007, 03:08 AM
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Iv always pretty much been a zoo all my life, although in my early times i never regraded it as much and barly spoke of it since i didn't really understand the concept of it and just brushed it off and let it lie at the back of my mind.

I do fear alot of people.. mainly this year before i had a talk with someone on the internet who helped me, i felt i was a freak.. a sick person.....i would have constant bestiality dreams...everytime someone mentioned the word "horse" or "dog" i would straight away associate it with something sexual and having those thoughts would pleasure me, but at the same time taunt and insult me.

But ever since i found this place, talked with a friend of mine on the interent and had an experience with my pet it felt.. it felt so soothing and reassuring this is what i want and i understand it now and its something i musnt blame myself on too harshly.

I know have a far greater bond with animals and people since i feel more confident and open and the darker side of me that had developed from possible constant repressing and other issues has soothed alot and too whats to have a friendlier bond with me and animals.

its our cup of it, and others dont have to drink it nor should they hate us for having our own likings. My parents find it wrong and sick, they don't understand the Zoo side and they just automatically associate it as "wrong" "sick" "against nature" "against god", but they ...they just.. i wish they would understand ..

I have met alot of internet people who have found me as a sick and crazy lonely person, i sure may be lonely but i prefer the company of animals and many people call all beast/zoo people as "sick people that dont get sex so they f*** animals" ...they dont understand the bond or the actual attraction...and they think it degrades the animal and they think we use the animals as sex toys.

My parents suspect me, but if i was ever truly found out i would...i wouldn't be able to live..since down here its VERY taboo.

Just to say, these are just personal opinions, im not speaking for everyone nor saying i know everything and such. :blink:
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Posted: May 27 2007, 05:05 AM
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For the first three years, I tried to pretend I wasn't, considering the fact I like both humans AND animals.

Nowadays? I accept it.
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Posted: May 27 2007, 05:12 AM
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I used to kinda feel bad about it. But then I realized theres so many people out there like me and its nothing to be ashamed of. Now im proud of it.
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