So I have been working on this for a while and I hope its understandable even though its kinda long I would appreciate if you would take the time to read and maybe leave with a better understanding :)

I have been here since o6, since the first time I discovered this side of my sexuality. I have recently become active in this forum sharing my personal experiences and advice with those who need help and I must say I wonder why I wasn’t as involved then when I first came here. Maybe I was shy or just didn’t know what questions to ask as I didn’t know much about the subject. I always thought bestiality and zoophilia were the same thing but it isn't. I have realized that the beastforum community is two communities, with one common purpose, to be with an animal. Though I have seen these communities clash on certain topics, because we don’t truly understand each other or the differences, we have to remember that we are there for each other, to guide each other through the confusion that we sometimes find ourselves in. Just because the beasties just have sex with their animals, and some zoos who have relationships with there pets don’t out of respect for their lover at times, doesn’t mean we have to attact each other because of how we differ, to me sex isn't everything and when a zoo loves their pet it doesn’t have to involve sex and when a beastie has sex with thier dog doesn’t mean they have to see them as a spouse or partner as long as the pet is loved and cared for. I'm sure some beasties don’t use their pets as sex toys, they do love their animals, the just don’t have that deep relationships that us zoos have that portray their pets as their partners or spouses. I hope i'm making sense as I stand for both sides of the community. I started out as a beastie and got my dog and over time being single, I found myself more attracted to my dog then I was to men. And here is where I also learned about zoophilia and furthered on my research and learning about my sexual life, because I had realized that my dog was more than just a pet to me, he was my partner. This site shouldn’t be taken for granted, I wish those member who are just here to leach off movies and pics from those who work hard and were kind enough to put them up, were more active and got involved to get a better understanding of who we are, what we do, and why we do it. I pity those who make accounts just to get in here and bash us an put us down for what we do. Instead of coming on here to do such things, they also have a chance to read and open themselves up to it, get a better understanding of us, but we are just not given that chance. Someone said on here, “people hate what they cant understand”, And its true. And as big as our combined communities are, we are never going to get the respect we deserve as much as we try to convince them that we are normal people just like everyone else. I was VERY fooled the other day when an incident happened on the forum, the topic was removed for those who go looking for it. Who I believed was an active member, made a second account and said some horrible things about what we are and what he thinks should happen to us, though I didn’t know it was him, it wasn’t till one of the mods exposed him and I was just speechless. I don’t think I would ever understand why he did that and it really was a huge disappointment. But through that I realized that the people we often see online, we do build strong relationships with each other both the beasties and zoos. And we look to each other. I think its Deerhunters Signature who says “Together we stand divided we fall” And it is true. This site is the most amazing thing ever created and it brought the world closer made it alot smaller than what it seems. I see so many new people who post saying “thanks so much” or “I'm so relieved that I am not alone” There are lots of us out there, some lost and confused about who they are and why they think this way that haven't found their way here. But once they do I'm sure they would feel a big weight come off of their shoulders and say THANK GOD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE!!! And take a big sigh of relief, I know I did when I joined To end this note I want to thank those who's information has helped me through my struggle of finding out who I am and I hope that I can give as much to other people. As others have given to me. Thank you Beastforum.
kodasgirl

This post has been edited by Horndawgs110503 on Jun 15 2009, 11:12 PM

who was he?or i mean the guy who had 2 accounts :o

Very well put. I am simply speechless. You are a very good member, which is why I am giving you a ten.

"I pity those who make accounts just to get in here and bash us an put us down for what we do. Instead of coming on here to do such"

Seriously, could you even be bothered doing this? How bored must you be to take the time to invent an account just to bash folk that you dont even know or remotely understand??!!

“I'm so relieved that I am not alone”

god I second that!!!...


Ten out of Ten :D

Edit....what the hell is going on with my Bold fonts?!!!!!!

This post has been edited by TheDoucheBag on Jun 16 2009, 02:52 AM

thanks to those who took the time to read my post FDL2 I got a suspicion here i think i have an idea what FDL stands for thats all im saying...Anyways thanks guys :)

Well done, Horndawgs. I can say with certainty that I could echo the same feelings you describe, as so could many other members here. This truly is a great place to be, even if we do tend to become tangled in the finer details that needlessly divide us.

Conflicts of ethical and moral substance are the unfortunate side effects of mental variance. So long as people are different on a personal level, some will undoubtedly see others as being beneath them when disagreements surface, especially those regarding how we live and act. Learning that another person's or group's beliefs are at odds with the mechanics we operate through on a daily basis sheds a very doubtful light that makes many people uncomfortable. To compensate for these insecurities, we justify our ways and condemn the differences, which obviously isn't limited to internal reactions. By claiming - more often that not, convinced - to be in a higher moral stance, the offended gain an illusion of authority which is used to lash out at those they feel threatened by. Through their own eyes this is a fully justified reaction, and can even be seen as a service unto their audience.

Whether or not such a thing is done out of a lack of understanding or experience doesn't matter, and isn't even the cause most of the time. The only factors that have any impact are how deeply the concept in question reaches into a person's inner workings and how radically it challenges certain views.

This post has been edited by secret_admirer on Jun 16 2009, 03:22 AM

Horndawgs I think you thought this out very well..And said it even better...THANK YOU!..............mark

very very well sad Secret I wish i can write as good as you :) you very, i think it is, articulate with your words

Here here! Great job!

I absolutely totally agree. 10 for you horndawgs. And anyone who has multiple accounts should be banned, especially scum like that guy. 2 faced douche bag (no offence TheDoucheBag).

HAHA dogma you funny bunny lol yeah i know you were there too lol

This post has been edited by Horndawgs110503 on Jun 16 2009, 04:49 AM

Great post. I wish more people thought like you and I agree with you almost all the way....

however, for me people who make up accounts for the one and only purpose of coming on a forum and slagging people off haven't become involved in a disagreement thats surfaced, they've gone looking for a disagreement in the first place.

Im not sure I understand the reasoning of a person that would intensionally go look for a disagreement with a person or community just because they live there lives differently.

I understand if they get into an arguement on a forum that they are already registered on but not to go as far as create an account just in order to give someone shit!

God damn it, offence taken ;)

People are bored thats all, this is how stupid people can be... maybe not on the subject of beast, but still they are picking on people...

I was looking online for a dog and i went to site and i called a lady whos malamute pups i was interested in. And she would tell me how people who had AKC titled dogs would bash them just because there dogs werent purebred that they needed to be drowned and stuff.

How bored or strange can a person be want to get into someone elses life and or business and put in their opinion.

Its like secret said "So long as people are different on a personal level, some will undoubtedly see others as being beneath them when disagreements surfaces"

This post has been edited by Horndawgs110503 on Jun 16 2009, 04:57 AM

Who knows - some people just thrive on conflict and like to pick fights only to hear themselves talk. I've known more than I'd care for personally, but that's how life goes. Take the good with the bad and keep on walking.

Not to justify what happened (seeing as I wasn't present for the thread, among other things,) but we're not exactly the most socially accepted group around, and that makes us an easy target for when someone's feeling a little morally stunted. It's analogous to someone picking on a first grader: easy to do and little to no retaliation can be expected... Feeling enabled to belt out the same tired elitist lecture to a group that can do little more than sit and take it apparently more than makes up for the fact that it makes him/her a giant assbag.