I'm originally from NYC. Folks from elsewhere may consider us a bit paranoid. We tend to think of ourselves as being hypervigilant.

Call it what you may, since recently coming into this lifestyle, I've often wondered about what percent of the public is in the closet. (I mean really in the closet -- no videos, photos, swinging, participating in beastiality forums or discreet scientific polls, etc.)

Of all the "deviant" sexual practices available, beastiality with your K9 pet is the easiest, most readily available, and arguably one of the safest. And, best yet, unless you decide otherwise, no one but you need ever know!

This then lead me to suspect that, with K9 pet sex so readily available to us and our youths, perhaps an unspoken reason the proponents who advocate for earlier and earlier castration of K9s (despite the known subsequent health risks) is to eradicate their natural sniffing, licking and mounting behavior that gets an owner, family member or guest, who might not otherwise consider beastiality, to fantasize about it and eventually try it in a "weak" moment of horny temptation.

Think about it! Morality aside, because not every one believes in religion, any perceived threat to the family unit is perceived as a threat to society as a whole. You can't after all, have humans marrying their pets, can you?!

I ran this idea past another zoophile, who laughing at my apparent naivete stated that of course this was one of the reasons some proponents advocate so vehemently for earlier and mandatory castration, adding that although I had only recently done so, pet love hadn't just recently been discovered.

This post has been edited by BlackMagikWoman on Apr 6 2009, 10:03 PM

I can only offer a tangent-- I'm a guy, and my Dane bitch often enough sticks her nose where the sun don't shine. Castration won't help there. And anywho-- How many people out there have been crotchnosed by a neutered dog? Seems not to make much difference in behavior-- Dogs will be dogs...... (Thankfully!)

BTW: Paranoid is when you think people are out to get you. Hypervigilant is when they actually are.......

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This post has been edited by neandernitz on Apr 6 2009, 10:50 PM

An Afterthought:

If I'm right about this conspiracy theory of mine, without outing ourselves, perhaps we should be fighting any local or state legislation that mandates early castration of our K9s. Right now, most cities require you to pay a hefty licensing fee if your K9 is not spayed or neutered. This might not be an option if it becomes mandatory.

FYI: There are several vets that either completely oppose mandatory castration or at least early castration. The American College of Theriogenologists (ACT), the certifying college for veterinarians board certified in reproduction (specialists) and the Society for Theriogenology (SFT), an organization of veterinarians with a special interest in reproduction in veterinary medicine, have an interesting take on this subject.

I'm pretty certain the mandatory neutering law is to help improve the severe overpopulation that's plaguing the New York area, and the nation in general, not to stymie us getting our freak on.

Seconded

This.

Well its hard to say what a lot of the motivations are for such laws. My gut feeling is it often has less to do with anti-zoo attitudes. And has more to do with anti-pet owning, anti-animal existing attitudes. You often see disparate [SPAM] coming together to help push these things for their own separate reasons.

and not to mention there are health reasons, reductions of cancers for one.

I think it may be because of the over whelmed humane human society trying to deal with to many animals and wants a sterilization project to cut number. They try to get homes but still have to put down so many. With economy there is the extras or pet and pet goes.

i don't thin so, i thknk it's just to control an explosion in unwanted pets and overcorowding in pounds.

They're not thinking specifically of us. Though to the extreme misanthropes out there, any contact between humans and animals is tantamount to cruelty, so they probably think of us as just one more example among billions. Many of them are committed a "one and done" mantra, to sterilize all domestic animals so there won't be any future generations for humans to "torture." Quite a twisted logic isn't it, to end the abuse by extincting the species?

The extremists (PETA and their gentler-looking front organization HSUS) are good at raising money. Put them together with the actual animal welfare workers in shelters, sick of the real pain of overpopulation (though it isn't as bad as it used to be, and New York actually imports dogs from shelters throughout the east coast). Then put them together with busybodies in all levels of government who enjoy the seductive temptation to regulate everything private citizen do. There you have a recipe for a lot of mandatory S/N laws.

The constant political drumbeat for religion and sham morality drives a lot of weirdness in this country (even a fancy new museum showing how humans and dinosaurs lived together before Noah's Flood). But the drive for mandatory S/N comes from the opposite end of the political spectrum.

Yes, helping fight mandatory/early S/N laws is a good idea. They're not only detrimental to our little niche, they're unsound in both principle and practice, and an assault on our freedom as citizens in general.

OK, Like a couple of 10's or so for what he said ^.

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this is the real reason.

Not overpopulation. Not to prevent bestiality. Not for health reasons. But to decrease the numbers of dogs so that eventually there are none.

I just wanted to add that I'm so glad more people are realizing this. This is not just a threat to zoophiles, its a threat to ALL pet owners.

This post has been edited by missywolf on Apr 7 2009, 09:48 PM

Manditory castration is just one more loss of freedom. People want to decrease the cirplus dog population and go overboard.
LTD

well said! & agreed!