Extremely well described, Tightfit. You are absolutely correct, the biggest pleasure comes from giving your partner his/hers best experience. It multiplies the strength of everything you do together.

As if there were only one thing that got a woman off.

This is like the "once you go black, you never go back" myth -- I've had a few white girlfriends "go black" and happily "go back." This isn't intended to be racist; black men certainly aren't inherently any worse lovers than white men, but the point is that they're not inherently any better lovers, either.

The problem is, you're just not going to convince anybody. The men (and women) who are convinced that dogs are better lovers for human women than human men are going to remain convinced regardless of what anyone says, and vice versa.

Nobody ever likes the truth, which is that things are complicated. Human sex, like it or lump it, takes place more in the brain than in the vagina or penis. Don't believe me? Consider having sex with a very ugly person. That hideous man's penis may be just as large and well formed as the handsome man's, and the hag's vagina may be just as snug and wet, but probably what will happen is that you'll lose your erection or be unable to get wet. But if it was all just a physical reaction, like some kind of mathematical equation -- put penis in vagina, rub g-spot, orgasm! -- then it wouldn't matter if we were attracted to our lovers, right? But it does matter. And, it matters if we love them, too -- we've probably all had the experience of an attractive person seeming less and less attractive as we got to know them and like them less, or vice-versa-- as we grow to know and love our mate, they seem sexier and sexier (ideally).

My point is, sex is in the head far more than in the genitals, so there's no magic formula for pleasure and orgasms. The path to pleasure is as unique and idiosyncratic as people are. In fact, being so goal-oriented (orgasm-driven) is a big turn-off for some women (and even, although you may not believe me, for some men -- me being one!) What is endlessly sexy for one woman (say dog-sex) is disgusting and disturbing to another woman (ie, my ex-girlfriend). The sexiness and orgasm potential doesn't lie in the thing itself (dogs, white men, black men, lesbians), but in the mind of the person experiencing it.

Until we accept that sex takes place far more in our heads than in our genitals (or any other body part), we're doomed to repeat our mistakes and be frustrated and disappointed that our encounters aren't what we'd hoped they could be. The "knot" doesn't cause orgasm. Your desire for, and receptiveness to, the "knot" is what causes the orgasm.

Sex is in the brain folks. Make love to a woman's (or man's) MIND and not just her BODY... Learn that and you can put Casanova to shame with your reputation as a lover.

This post has been edited by atomx on Dec 26 2004, 08:31 AM

How about the other side of the equation? Which one is better: woman or dog vulva? :D

Rona

I think that the man and the dog are not comparable and this would be an error to think it, each has its advantages. the couple man woman is the basis of social life, I not some would add. But the dog has important sexual advantages on the man, its physical particularitées, his tongue, his sex, his sperme and the possibility that it has to understand and to learn quickly the woman some do a wonderful lovers able to give more of orgasmes in a linking than no man cannot do it, in a couple it can be a very appreciated complement.

Couldn't have said it better. Lady R you are a first class Lady !!! :kiss:

This post has been edited by LadyRottweiler on Apr 19 2005, 05:09 PM

I agree completely with lady R

The original question, I think, was which penis is better to woman, dogs or mens.
The question clearly came from a man. To me, and I think, most women I know, what makes for "good sex" is far more than a penis. It's about feelings; do I feel safe...safe enough to express myself...safe that what we share in private will stay in private...safe that my partner will not try to dominate me when I do not want to be dominated...or will dominate me when I feel the need to a more responsive side of "the equation". Safe is a big thing. Love is also a big, if not the biggest thing - do if feel loved...will my partner respect me when I am strong...protect me when I am weak....love me no matter how I express or fail to express myself. Does my partner really understand and appreciate me?

Those two feelings have a lot to do with a girl's ability to just trust and let go. And it is there, in trust and freedom that the best sex grows. That is not about the size, shape or temperature of a penis. I agree with LR that men have most of the advantages in the communications skills and in the range and artistry with which they can express themselves. I also agree with LR that the human factors are tremendous, even for those who are life long devotees to K-9 sex. To truly know you can trust someone requires that the one you will trust has the ability to break that trust. One can trust that a dog will "never tell" because a dog can't tell. A human, on the other hand, can tell, can ridicule, can punish. That is why sharing intimacy with a human involves a much deeper trust. And the depth of that trust carries the depth of the relationship.

Sex with dogs can carry a different kind of trust, a more reliable and less dangerous kind of trust in many ways...but, in the end, that means the depth of the relationship...between he/she and the dog...is less deep...less strong.

Some girls may argue that the most intense orgasms come from the most intense relationships. I agree and disagree here. I have had human male and female lovers with whom I have enjoyed (and endured) deep and powerful relationships. In both cases the sex was beyond "good". But there have been other times when I just need a complete kind of freedom. Free from any worry of the harm other humans can cause the heart and spirit. When I feel those modes, the sex I get from dogs can not be matched by humans.

It is not about the penis. It is about the spirit...about where the mind is at the time...about where the heart is at the time.

Can I exist happily without human relationships...no. Can I exist happily without at least occassional K-9 sex...no.

There is my two cents.

The topic obviously refers mainly to just the raw sex part of the pleasure... not mentally. I would say women who have only been with smaller men and has never felt satisfied by being "full" than a large dog would feel better. Likewise, a medium to large sized human dick 6"-9" offers more pleasure than any dog dick or knot.

I agree with Joe Horny. :beer:

Dogs fit nicely, are intent on making sure that when they cum - it stays in, and they stay to clean up with fantastic tongue, bringing additional orgasms. Most will return for seconds after we take a short nap together. For me, the third time he takes me is the most enjoyable.

Have never had anyone watching complain - unless he forms his knot too soon and I can't get him all the way in, even with helpers.

Better than guys? Different for sure - and the right guy who knows how to play is an equal --- if only guys could tie:-)

Awsome LadyRottwieller. I think you nailed it here.
I hope your husband knows how you feel. And I also I hope he knows how lucky he is.

A large part of the arousal is the taboo aspect. Helps with orgasms... particularly when it comes to multiple orgasms.

I just wish genetic manipulation would hurry the heck up. Honestly that is one part of me I have wanted to change since I was a tween. Being a furry as a child I wanted everything to be more wolf. As I became more sexual I wanted the wolf knot and shaft for my own. Do not get me wrong, I am pretty well built. Sorry everyone, but that would be HeartsofPaw's choice if she wanted to show myself, not my own. But I still most of all wanted the canine Knot. *sighs* Oneday, oneday... we can always dream... can't we...?

:thinking: :( :unsure: -_-

The orginal question and as noted it's about what feels good.. women need men to pay more attention to their biggest sex organ (the brain!) and perhaps vice versa.. if a woman of mine was banging the dog I'd want to know... it would stimulate my brain like silly and I think most men will not view it as anything but sexual excitement...

The issue is often we tend to focus on the physical part of sex but not with the other things fondling,cuddling,kissing, etc that comes with it. (We really need more sex education). Saying that dogs and human cocks are the same is like saying that the trolley is the same as the bus. No its not. There are many differences here.