It's never abuse if the animal shows signs that they want sex, if they're in heat, or if they are horny. The other day me and a buddy were making a movie project about a story of zoophilia ninjas. We used our own horses and when we were shooting, some people were trespassing because they "wanted to see the sights of the country side". They freaked out at what they saw and threatened to call the cops that we were abusing animals. The horses were in heat and they needed to be penetrated. We don't have any male horses so it was right to pleasure the horses. Because horses are a lot bigger than humans, it is wrong to say that having sex with a horny one is "abusing". Infact, if you really want a correct "abusive" senario, the horses would be considered to be abusing us :D.

The good side of the story is that they never saw our faces because of our ninja outfits, and we later called the cops back on them for tresspassing. They had to pay a $120 fine for each person :P

Well, in terms of your title, yeah... I think a lot of people who have never seen an animal 'ask for sex' (and most of us here know, they can and WILL, sometimes very insistently! :lol: ) assume that we're performing selfish acts against the animals' will.

that being said, you're awful lucky you got out of that the way you did. It may benefit you in the future to be more discreet in choosing the locations you choose to pleasure your partner(s). Being spotted can get you in real trouble. Just because they were forced to pay a fine once doesn't mean they won't go back to the police station and report you or your property, and then what a mess of paperwork that'd be.
plus even i think it sounds a bit odd to tell someone that it's 'right to pleasure the horses' just because they're in heat. Perhaps another way of phrasing it may have made it sound nicer.
Keep in mind that if you choose to be open about your inclination to have an intimate relationship with your animal in public then you also have to accept some responsibility as an ambassador for other zoos. you'll probably be the one and only beastialist/zoo they'll ever meet, best make that first impression a good one.

either way, in the vein of the original topic, i do agree. after all, non-zoos tend to just associate the fact that bestiality is more or less entirely illegal with the assumption that it must horribly hurt the animal. such is life, i'm afraid... :(

City folk who've obviously never been to a working farm or stable before. Aside from zooish motivations, some animals just have to have manual release or they go nutty. Don't they know that!?! <_<

This post has been edited by energydog on Aug 23 2008, 12:32 AM

It was in a closed area with a lot of trees and forestry. We were trying to make it look like a japanese feudal-era setting. These people didn't really look like city folk to be honest. There's a small town close by and another average sized city the other direction. It looked like they came from the small town but me and my buddy had every right of privacy since we owned that part of the land.

If anyone has seen the infamous "Animal Passions" documentary, you will probably feel how I feel.

There always seems to be some sort of fence (lol not a fencehopping scenario) between those on one side (us) and the people who think otherwise (them) which I like to call "The Boolean Society" and it exists everywhere.

Dont like Marmite? Do you have to tell everyone that you dont?

I could go on but this has been discussed a million times over and will never cease as long as there's a psychological fence in the way :(

Personally I hope your :ph34r: project turns out to be a success!

-tps

I recently have been telling people about my zooplilactic lifestlye and one of my exgirlfriends said "you do know that's animal abuse, right?"

At that point I reminded her that he's mounting me, driving his cock into my ass, and that afterwards we usually laid together on the couch or in bed and slept together.

It was at that point I asked her if it was abuse when I was doing that to her? Which then she very rudely reminded me that my relationship was illegal.

This is so funny, maybe soon there will be rumors of ninja animal-sex cults.

*Old-Timer voice* "Yep we used to have them satanic animal-sex cults, but them ninja animal-sex cults chased them all out..."

Lordy, lordy...... That'll keep Homeland Security tied up in knots for years! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The other day, our spayed basset hound was rather frustrated from horniness. She rarely does this, but happened to be horny for some reason at the time. Being so kind and loving to his pet, JP stopped what he was doing, giving a little of his time to help her with her needs. Was it abusive to help a frustrated dog get rid of sexual tension by fingering her? No, of course not. The big dopey smile on that dog's face as she lay in her bed after getting off was proof enough. And that constantly wagging tail? Yeah, tell me she is being abused. :rolleyes:

In fact, their relationship is not a sexual one. They are best friends, and always been. But when we make the commitment to care for a dog, so many people forget that one important need (and think that spaying/neutering, a so-called "fix", is the solution.) :rolleyes: <_<
And it saddens me that so many pet owners would not have bothered to help their pet out with that need because of fear of what society might think. :(

People label it abuse because they don't have another term for it...and because in many places, the LAW doesn't differentiate between beating an animal and beating an animal OFF...Yes, there is much ignorance out there to deal with, but be sure you know what you're saying when you have to reply to them...transferring your own attitudes and needs onto an animal who can't possibly be motivated the same way only adds fuel to the fire...

:thinking: Soooo, your faces were covered, but whose Name was on the complaint ?

The "property owners".

"We never saw any Ninjas, just these drunken nutcakes on our property. I'm pretty sure I saw them doing mushrooms........ "


:o :lol: :lol: :lol: :whistling:

Yeah, they will hire certain vets to help "relieve" sexual tensions. Or so I've heard that they do that for non-neutered dogs. Strange that it's perfectly accepted to get off a dog because you're a vet, and not otherwise.

Oh, and 10 points to GivingHead, buckup, and missywolf for their insightful comments. And buckup, great job on the avatar.

Hmmmm, thats an interesting thought. Since many people refer to spaying/neutering their pets as getting them "fixed", do they consider non-spayed or non-neutered pets to be "broken"?