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> Why Do People Always Label It As Abuse?, A little incident happened the other day
neandernitz
Posted: Sep 9 2008, 02:03 AM
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Posted: Sep 10 2008, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE (equine69 @ Sep 4 2008, 03:04 PM)
It is quite amusing, the headlines in the local paper may read "Ninjas caught with pink samurai swords in war horse" The possibilities are endless. Missywolf, I know of a little jack russel newtered bitch, and when ever I stay over at this persons house she always likes to come and relieve a bit of tension, I never inserted a finger in her but she she klings onto my arm and rubs her intimate zone like crazy on my hand, you know when shes finished because she goes all stiff and pulls a funny face, it is really kind of sweet.
Any way, Nijas, happy banzai bonking to you :D

Why do you assume they are pink? I have real Japanese weaponry.
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Posted: Sep 10 2008, 05:17 PM
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Uh.... He was referring to your "Other weapon".

The pink one..... In the horse.....

Don't make me have to explain it....... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Posted: Sep 10 2008, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (GivingHead @ Aug 22 2008, 10:22 PM)
It's never abuse if the animal shows signs that they want sex, if they're in heat, or if they are horny. The other day me and a buddy were making a movie project about a story of zoophilia ninjas. We used our own horses and when we were shooting, some people were trespassing because they "wanted to see the sights of the country side". They freaked out at what they saw and threatened to call the cops that we were abusing animals. The horses were in heat and they needed to be penetrated. We don't have any male horses so it was right to pleasure the horses. Because horses are a lot bigger than humans, it is wrong to say that having sex with a horny one is "abusing". Infact, if you really want a correct "abusive" senario, the horses would be considered to be abusing us :D.

The good side of the story is that they never saw our faces because of our ninja outfits, and we later called the cops back on them for tresspassing. They had to pay a $120 fine for each person :P

:rolleyes: I cant undrestand why they call it abuse.If thats what they mean then its abuse when a animails mate same same.No different than when a dog mates with a women??.A male dog will fuck a women because they want sex and so does the women if she willing to have sex with him.And they call that abuse??.I do not buy it.I dont belive its any bodys bussness to what a women or a man wants in sex.As long as its behind closed doors.And it hurts no one else.Just my two cents worth on the matter. :rock: :devil2:
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Posted: Oct 10 2008, 04:45 PM
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It's an interesting question on its face,

I think there are a number of different factors which contribute to ye old random Joe Q Public reacting negatively to zoophilia.

The issue is one of consent and mental capacity. People believe that animals have the mental maturity of children and thus are unable to understand hence consent to sex, thus, to them, all animal sex is rape. What they miss is the fact that animals mature faster and are ready to mate much earlier than humans. They don't have to worry about language, vocations, math, or the stock market to survive... all they need are their wits and the body capable of gathering/hunting for food. Simply put, they are not children and they do actively seek and/or consent to sex.

You will run into other objections such as: it's against the law; it's against religion; it's perverted; and it's dirty. All of these issues are artificial and belie a fundamental problem with modern society. We as a nation, as a world, exploit animals for everything from food to companionship. Giving animals... or admitting that animals are capable of being in mutual loving relationships puts that world view into serious question. People are dogmatically trained to their very core to reject the notion that it's okay to have sex with animals. It's something you just have to be prepared to deal with out there in the great big wide world of mundanes.

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Posted: Oct 15 2008, 05:43 AM
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I'm kinda jealous of those neutered dogs... being horny and never having sex is the worst!! :pinch:
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Posted: Oct 15 2008, 03:42 PM
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yes, Tomokato! Very good post. That is exactly why people have issues with this.

Personally, I'd say it's because they (the humans who oppose it) lack the mental capacity for it. :lol: They think animals have child minds because they don't understand other species. They don't know their languages, how to interpret body signals, etc. They think they can't talk so therefore they can't consent. :rolleyes:
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Posted: Oct 15 2008, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE (missywolf @ Oct 15 2008, 08:42 AM)
...... because they don't understand other species.

They don't WANT to....... :pinch:
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Posted: Oct 15 2008, 09:02 PM
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yup. -_-
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  Posted: Oct 15 2008, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE (Tomokato @ Oct 10 2008, 10:45 AM)
It's an interesting question on its face,

I think there are a number of different factors which contribute to ye old random Joe Q Public reacting negatively to zoophilia.

The issue is one of consent and mental capacity. People believe that animals have the mental maturity of children and thus are unable to understand hence consent to sex, thus, to them, all animal sex is rape. What they miss is the fact that animals mature faster and are ready to mate much earlier than humans. They don't have to worry about language, vocations, math, or the stock market to survive... all they need are their wits and the body capable of gathering/hunting for food. Simply put, they are not children and they do actively seek and/or consent to sex.

You will run into other objections such as: it's against the law; it's against religion; it's perverted; and it's dirty. All of these issues are artificial and belie a fundamental problem with modern society. We as a nation, as a world, exploit animals for everything from food to companionship. Giving animals... or admitting that animals are capable of being in mutual loving relationships puts that world view into serious question. People are dogmatically trained to their very core to reject the notion that it's okay to have sex with animals. It's something you just have to be prepared to deal with out there in the great big wide world of mundanes.

TK


religion tends to be a sore spot with me.
Much of the so called Christian Religion is done by a lot of hypocrytical persons.
I used to see supposed good catholics park illegally to go to church.
many of these same people would condemn us for making love to our animal mates/wives/lovers, etc...

I have resolved that and have my own religion, which I call Zetology.
it allows love and mating, plus Wedlock, of course, as a part of it.
Makes no difference that the partners may be of different species, only that love and tenderness are involved.

I want to locate more text from the Babylonian bible/Torah or whatever it is, and read much more than just the part where Adam has sex with all of the female animals at first.
It is also said by some that the Talmud, in some versions, does allow sex with female animals, but alas, also says the animal must be put to death afterward. Another crock of .........

Some would say that it is abuse to have sex with my Boer doe, because I have to catch her and put her on a stand to do so. But strangely enough, once on the stand, she is ready to let me lick into her and then have full coitus with her.
I see not how it can be abuse when she gets enjoyment from it.

And some animals will actually make the advances, once more, is it abuse to have relations with them, or is it abuse to not give them what they want?


I will add that most male goats seem to force some of the females to let them plow their fertile field...
And in other instances, the females will back up to a fence, or lay down to allow a small male access, and so on.
And it is known that some females want sex even when not in heat, though may be fussier as to who gets to plow then.

Gotta run...


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  Posted: Oct 15 2008, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE (sumguy24 @ Oct 14 2008, 11:43 PM)
I'm kinda jealous of those neutered dogs... being horny and never having sex is the worst!! :pinch:

While most neutered males don't get horny, some do.
this includes geldings, who can sometimes have full coitus and enjoy it, just shoot blanks.
Not to mention, I have seen many spayed bitches do a lot of humping. True, most have no sex drive, but some still do.

Speaking of horny, my friend cut her trip short and came back today, so I am now horny and cannot do what I had intended to do...
Ratzzz!!! :(

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  Posted: Oct 15 2008, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE (neandernitz @ Oct 15 2008, 10:58 AM)
QUOTE (missywolf @ Oct 15 2008, 08:42 AM)
...... because they don't understand other species.

They don't WANT to....... :pinch:

And there are some that would if it were not for the opinions of others, and the laws in some states and countries.

Interesting that very old religions, no longer practiced, that we see anyway actually had coitus with animals as a part of the fertility rites...

Oh yes, another seemingly strange practice that still goes on in some parts of the world is called Cow Blowing. the farmer, or other person, actually blows into a cows vagina to get her to give milk. There is a video on Youtube...
And other mentions if you search for cow blowing.
of course, some cows do give a sh!t... :sick: :whistling: :devil2:
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Posted: Oct 16 2008, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE (neandernitz @ Sep 10 2008, 05:17 PM)
Uh.... He was referring to your "Other weapon".

The pink one..... In the horse.....

Don't make me have to explain it....... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I don't get it ;_;
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neandernitz
Posted: Oct 16 2008, 01:53 PM
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He's standing behind the horse, with his pink thing stuck inside her.......

OK, look at what the draft horse is doing to the cow.....
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That's his "Other weapon". Got it? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Posted: Oct 16 2008, 03:48 PM
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Interesting.

I am surprised that the moderators allowed the "Religious Beliefs" to be allowed in this thread. I mentioned it once and got reprimanded!

Anyway -

Idiots abound, as we all know.

There is a fruitcake in our area that "read about it, and is now an Expert" on horse behavior. He and his wife ride around trying to start trouble with several of us horse owners. There have been several intentions by the "City Fathers" to stop all livestock ownership within the city limits. So fat these fail because of a few well placed words concerning Prejudice.

Outlaw my horse and not outlaw; dogs, cats and chickens or any other animal normally found on a farm? The issue then got thrown out.

I have practiced, and have instructed my children, that having an animal as a companion, is all inclusive. That means not just food, water and shelter, but also includes their sexual needs.

I also oppose the "Bob Barker" approach to animal care. Spaying, neutering, and castrating is Sexual Mutilation, just as much as circumcision (male or female) among humans is. It is abnormal and totally unnecessary. It goes on, mostly "for the money" by humane shelters/pet adoption centers, just as circumcision goes on even though it serves no purpose and was condemned by the American Medical Association (in 1986) on public TV (CBS). Google "Circumcision in the USA" for the real facts.

Money and greed drive the Powers That Be. They pay for the commercials that advance their particular agenda, no matter how inhumane and unnatural the procedure is. The Vets, Doctors and hospitals rake in the cash as any "good business" should.

What to do? Just Say NO! Refuse to take in or purchase a sexually mutilated animal.

When it doesn't line pockets or produce profits, procedures fall by the wayside.

I agree, We as animal lovers/zoos, are discriminated against, just as homosexuals were in earlier years (in the USA). Publicity, Federal Laws and education lead to reform. Now I do see bestiality being slowly reintroduced by TV shows and TV commercials. Maybe there will be a day of acceptance in the near future. We can only write or otherwise commend those that help our cause.

We, in our own way, can be political activist too!
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