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> Why Do People Always Label It As Abuse?, A little incident happened the other day
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Posted: Aug 24 2008, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE (silverwolf768 @ Aug 24 2008, 05:07 PM)
Hmmmm, thats an interesting thought. Since many people refer to spaying/neutering their pets as getting them "fixed", do they consider non-spayed or non-neutered pets to be "broken"?

Good point and great avatar. 10 points for you. I mean, really great avatar.

To make it worse, they even have fake nutsacks that someone can put on the dog after neutering, for those that want to keep the look. Whatever.. :wacko:
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Posted: Aug 24 2008, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (missywolf @ Aug 23 2008, 08:39 AM)
And it saddens me that so many pet owners would not have bothered to help their pet out with that need because of fear of what society might think. :(

Yea, me too... however, I think with some convincing you could sway a fellow pet owner to at least accept you doing this for your pet. Which might be a good place to start explaining if you were ever caught.
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Posted: Aug 24 2008, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE (silverwolf768 @ Aug 24 2008, 12:07 PM)
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In fact, their relationship is not a sexual one. They are best friends, and always been. But when we make the commitment to care for a dog, so many people forget that one important need (and think that spaying/neutering, a so-called "fix", is the solution.) :rolleyes: <_< 



Hmmmm, thats an interesting thought. Since many people refer to spaying/neutering their pets as getting them "fixed", do they consider non-spayed or non-neutered pets to be "broken"?

Ha! You can't fix something that isn't broken! :thinking: :lol:

as for the neuticles (fake nuts), I think people get those because they feel guilty for taking away a part of their pet. :pinch:
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Posted: Aug 24 2008, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE (missywolf @ Aug 24 2008, 10:56 PM)
as for the neuticles (fake nuts), I think people get those because they feel guilty for taking away a part of their pet. :pinch:

Hmm, I wonder if those neuticles have the same texture or taste as the real thing.
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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE (missywolf @ Aug 24 2008, 04:56 PM)
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QUOTE (missywolf @ Aug 23 2008, 05:39 PM)
In fact, their relationship is not a sexual one. They are best friends, and always been. But when we make the commitment to care for a dog, so many people forget that one important need (and think that spaying/neutering, a so-called "fix", is the solution.) :rolleyes: <_< 



Hmmmm, thats an interesting thought. Since many people refer to spaying/neutering their pets as getting them "fixed", do they consider non-spayed or non-neutered pets to be "broken"?

Ha! You can't fix something that isn't broken! :thinking: :lol:

Bah! I was gonna come back with that one! :P

I think I might use that for my next dog:

"So, you gonna get him/her fixed?"
"Why? Is he/she broken?"
"Well, no, but..."
"Well if he/she ain't broken, why fix him/her?"
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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 12:53 AM
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Actually, People, the HSUS and PETA Both consider an un-neutered pet to be " Broken "...Any of y'all want to throw a monkey-wrench at these busy-bodies who've nothing better to do than mind other folks' business for them? And even better, in a way that won't point a finger at our little " Hobby"?

Whoa, folks...I see too many hands to count :D

It seems that currently with all the fuss over oil-drilling in the coastal areas of the US, both of these worthy Charities (Spelled Political Action Committee) have been asked for input into the environmental impact of such activity...However...

Federal Law in the US states that no Non-Profit Organization m'say voice opinions on political questions nor offer advice to an elected or appointed Official of Federal or Local Governments unless said NPO wants to lose its NPO status and start paying taxes on the funds they acquire...Sooooooooo...

Write your Congressman and Senator, telling them how outraged you are over such activities by NPO's...Tell them you saw it in the papers or on the Net...it's been covered in both places recently...

Maybe we can Give those boobs something to really be upset about...and it IS an Election year...<grinnnn, one ea.;wicked, evil, type V>
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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 01:11 AM
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mm...i talked to friend about beastuallity..she called it abuse, cuz they dont talk to you,,and show there love the same way...it anoyed me,,we fought....I only consider it abuse if the animals too small,,or if theres use of drugging,and starvation,or anything hurting the animal....if the animal makes the moves,is fine and liking of it i cant...i belive people are allways gonna see zoophilia as animal abuse...ya go on youtube/myspace videos and people complain on expert weightpulling,agility,spring poles as abuse too...i try to inform,,but its hard,,and something that cant necissary be helped :thinking:
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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 01:48 AM
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It's abuse to make a horny dog suffer without.
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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 10:21 AM
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If it weren't for understanding people like us, I don't know how a lot of zoophilia persons could handle keeping secrets from society. I guess all that matter is our animal friends know that we care and aren't afraid to please them and show that we love them.
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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 04:14 PM
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wow, saddlebum, that was way off-topic. :P

As for PETA, they only want pets neutered so they do not reproduce and cease to exist...so screw what they think about everything. :lol:

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"So, you gonna get him/her fixed?"
"Why? Is he/she broken?"
"Well, no, but..."
"Well if he/she ain't broken, why fix him/her?"


If anybody dare asks me or tells me to get my Roy "fixed", I'm going to say that. Because if there is any word in this language of ours that I can't stand it's that one. :angry:

If you look up "fix" in the dictionary, the definition I think that comes closest (besides the last one, which is to castrate): make (something) permanent or static in nature
Yeah...you permanently destroy an entire system of the animal. :pinch:
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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 01:40 AM
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Well, Missy, try as I might, I don't see where it's off-topic, since I addressed the Mind-set of people who advocate and in fact LEGISLATE for " All Spayed, All Neutered" Governmental Policy <since they actually wrote the Bill that Pa. enacted this spring, so those poor, overworked Congressmen and Senators in that illustrious State didn't have to .

The very idea of castrating male or female dogs as a prerequisite to ownership, or as a punishment for a vaguely described " abuse " appalls me... I call it as I see it...and for most of the other " common-sense" reasons, it doesn't work...
Take responsibility for your critters or don't take them at all...if this means a leash or a fence, so be it...if it means keeping them in during fertile periods, so be it...and if yours is male that means attention to his behavior when he gets that pheromonal message that sweetikins down the street is receptive, so that you know next time what that means, so be it...Castration is the easy way out of responsible pet ownership...it sucks no matter how you slice it <off> and if good people would get up off their duffs once in awhile and actually think...maybe some of this nonsense wouldn't occur... On the other hand, the Forces of Ignorance are ALWAYS on the March...Selah
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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 04:23 AM
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QUOTE (NanakiWolfMon @ Aug 25 2008, 01:48 AM)
It's abuse to make a horny dog suffer without.

I agree,,lol...I would look at the people who had there un-nuetered dogs,,and think of the poor dog needing to be layed if he ain`t breed or had some fun with there owners...male dogs hump even when nuetered, alot..and more when not,,females go crazy in heat XD
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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 05:14 AM
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I see what you mean, saddlebum. And I agree with you completely. I just didn't understand what you were saying earlier, so sorry about that. ^_^
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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 01:31 PM
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August 22, Assembly Bill 1634 was voted down by a vote of 27-5. AB1634 would have required all dogs in California older than six months to be spayed or neutered unless the dog owner obtained a “may issue” annual intact permit from the owner’s local government after paying an unspecified fee. AB1634 is being pushed by animal “rights” extremist people like the Humane Society of the United States.


So basically, they want you to pay them to keep your pet intact and that is in addition to the registration fees and other junk.

Also, "may issue" means that they don't have to give you the permit.
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Posted: Aug 27 2008, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (neandernitz @ Aug 23 2008, 03:44 PM)
Lordy, lordy...... That'll keep Homeland Security tied up in knots for years! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The thought brings a smile to me. You think they will have 'undercover' animals? Think they will dress the animals in mini-skirts, put lipstick on them and walk them on the 'bad side' of town? If they do use animals someone will have to train them, that open more room for thought - I wonder what a person needs on a resume to apply for the job? What animal will they pick, might look kind of odd to have a horse in net stockings walking the streets.

And what about the New York cops that ride horses? Shouldn't the horses be made to wear clothing? Isn't it a violation of decency laws to have a nude horse?

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