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moparmindy
Posted: Aug 7 2008, 01:55 PM
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a person comes into the place i work .the coments the person makes leads me to think there zoo.i would love to know is there an easy way to ask .i know the person loves there dogs and talks about them none stop the hole time there there .how can i ask with out coming out and asking i dont want the person to freak out thanks mop. :D
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Posted: Aug 7 2008, 04:56 PM
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when it comes down to it, there's no polite way to ask. the risks of 'outing' yourself and really putting off the person you're taking to are far greater than the possible benefits.

Lets put it this way; i work in a pet supply store that allows animals, and i've seen almost everything in the way of owner-pet relationships. We have a gentleman that comes in to buy a large box of milkbones every other week or so with his great dane/chow mix. he is wearing a wedding band and his dog has no tags on her collar; just a gold ring.

but it would not only be against company policy for me to inquire as to the relationship this man has with his dog, but also just against my personal morals. what i do with my dog is no one's business unless i invite them to know, so what other men and women do with their animals is none of mine. If a customer were to say "yeah, just picking up some food for my zoo lover, Ruff" then of course I'd engage him/her outside of work or on break and inquire further, because they have given me permission to inquire about that side of their life. but until then i consider it MYOB.

i'm sure others have some good ideas for breaching topics of your own life to possibly coax the other person into reciprocating, though. :)
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Posted: Aug 7 2008, 07:09 PM
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Well said. :rock: :beer:
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Posted: Aug 8 2008, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE (buckup @ Aug 8 2008, 03:56 AM)
when it comes down to it, there's no polite way to ask. the risks of 'outing' yourself and really putting off the person you're taking to are far greater than the possible benefits.

Lets put it this way; i work in a pet supply store that allows animals, and i've seen almost everything in the way of owner-pet relationships. We have a gentleman that comes in to buy a large box of milkbones every other week or so with his great dane/chow mix. he is wearing a wedding band and his dog has no tags on her collar; just a gold ring.

but it would not only be against company policy for me to inquire as to the relationship this man has with his dog, but also just against my personal morals. what i do with my dog is no one's business unless i invite them to know, so what other men and women do with their animals is none of mine. If a customer were to say "yeah, just picking up some food for my zoo lover, Ruff" then of course I'd engage him/her outside of work or on break and inquire further, because they have given me permission to inquire about that side of their life. but until then i consider it MYOB.

i'm sure others have some good ideas for breaching topics of your own life to possibly coax the other person into reciprocating, though. :)

Very well put

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Posted: Aug 8 2008, 10:58 AM
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I think that question comes under the heading of "what if"? and personally I can not think of any safe way of asking that question.
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Posted: Aug 8 2008, 11:58 AM
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It's almost like we need a code phrase, like "friend of Dorothy."


...I looked up the phrase in wiki, and found a really funny paragraph:

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In the early 1980s, the Naval Investigative Service was investigating homosexuality in the Chicago area. Agents discovered that gay men sometimes referred to themselves as "friends of Dorothy." Unaware of the historical meaning of the term, the NIS believed that a woman named Dorothy was at the center of a massive ring of homosexual military personnel. The NIS launched an enormous hunt for Dorothy, hoping to find her and convince her to reveal the names of gay servicemembers.



...and your little dog, too!

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Posted: Aug 8 2008, 01:35 PM
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I made a zoo friend recently. How did I learn she was zoo?

Well I'm always one to make kinky animal jokes among our group of friends, whether they know I'm zoo or not, they respect me and are my greatest friends in the world :wub:.

But about the girl that I learned was zoo, somehow we got into the private conversation of my jokes, and she revealed herself that she "didn't mind the jokes" and was in-fact, "turned on by them". At first I was in disbelief, so I asked her bluntly, "Are you really into the beast thing?". Turns out she was! What joy :heart: !

I don't want to go fully into depth because I feel it would be a bit disrespectful to exploit her (if she reads this; she's been zoo for a while, but was well-concealed like so many of us are). But basically, it kinda comes naturally. I'm not saying "make zoo jokes around your friends and you can probably find a new zoo friend" because we can't assume your group of friends is like mine. It'll just happen, and perhaps instinct will guide you to another Zoo.

Good luck!

P.S: Love you "Reya Koru" ;) ;) (Alter-ego name, not a real person)
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Posted: Aug 8 2008, 02:25 PM
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awesome story, Ravana!

as for moparmindy, I wouldn't say anything to them You can watch for more sign, but if you ask and they are not, there is a chance you would offend.
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  Posted: Aug 8 2008, 03:42 PM
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Moparmindy, You might want to try a couple of conversation starters by volunteering something about yourself and then asking him if he does things the same way.

For example, you could tell him that you often invite your dog to join you in bed overnight and then ask him if he does the same. If he tells you he does, then you might have a whole long conversation with him about sleeping protocols and what you do and what he does, etc. "Do you spoon with him? I do with mine!" In other words, you open up about yourself little by little and invite him to come along in the discussion. If he responds negatively, then the conversation is over. But, if he keeps responding positively, eventually you'll get to the point.

Another discussion you might be able to start is one regarding your pets' sexual hygene. That is, start off by telling him how you deal with cleaning his belly and sheath and testicles and anal glands. Ask him how he deals with hygene issues with his dog. If everything seems OK to proceed, then return to the care and cleaning of his sheath. Tell him how you hold it and if you clip any long hairs away from the tip. Draw any care and cleaning information out of him. If you feel like you can proceed with the discussion, you may then discuss how his os penis sometimes starts emerging from the sheath during bathing and ask him how he controls that with his dog. Tell him, laughing, that you haven't figured out how to control your dog's os penis once he gets going! He should have gotten the message by now.

Another line of conversation you might want to initiate could be that you reveal that sometimes your dog starts humping things, like your leg or your hand, and you can't figure out how to stop him. Or even, whether you should stop him. You can tell him about incidents where your dog has even attemted to mount you when you don't want it, much to your dismay, and you need his advice on how he can take control of the situation. The key phrase would be "when I don't want it" because if he's a zoo, he'll be thinking "there must be other times when she wants it" and he may open up to you after that.

But, remember, in order to get him to go to the next level of revelations about his own zoo habits, you should consider revealing something about your own relationship with your dog first, to see if he follows your lead. If he does, great. If he doesn't, then drop the matter.
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Posted: Aug 8 2008, 04:15 PM
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Ravana, is that zoo you learned about a member of the BF?

It really is a great little story, inspiring us all with the possibilities. Joking and horsing around is often a way to get reactions from people about how much they know about or participate in certain delicate subjects. I don't know if they still do it, but "back in the day" the first person to smoke marijuana in a group of friends often resorted to joking about it or pantomiming the roach smoking motions to determine if anyone else would admit having done so, without either admitting it himself or lighting one up in front of them.

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Posted: Aug 8 2008, 04:20 PM
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moparmindy, I thought of another way to break the ice.

Get yourself a zeta pin or necklace or some sort of T-shirt with a zeta symbol on it and wear them when he's around. If he's familiar with the zeta sign, he'll probably bring the issue up to you and ask you about it, which will be your opening to make a date with him to discuss the whole thing privately in as much detail as he wants. On the other hand, if he doesn't know what the zeta symbol represents and doesn't ask you about it, it could mean he's clueless, and clueless he may have to remain.
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Posted: Aug 8 2008, 05:56 PM
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The zeta pin is an idea but I'm afraid not many would recognize it , I know from experience.

But as it was said before , I found that my actual GF is into zoo by watching the reaction to kinky animal jokes and recommanding her some books with zoo content , then talking about some of those scenes and asking her if she would do that... Slowly I got to the point and she admitted she was attracted to horses and dog.
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Posted: Aug 8 2008, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE (Barb Dyer @ Aug 8 2008, 04:58 AM)
It's almost like we need a code phrase, like "friend of Dorothy."


...I looked up the phrase in wiki, and found a really funny paragraph:

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In the early 1980s, the Naval Investigative Service was investigating homosexuality in the Chicago area. Agents discovered that gay men sometimes referred to themselves as "friends of Dorothy." Unaware of the historical meaning of the term, the NIS believed that a woman named Dorothy was at the center of a massive ring of homosexual military personnel. The NIS launched an enormous hunt for Dorothy, hoping to find her and convince her to reveal the names of gay servicemembers.



...and your little dog, too!

That is without doubt the FUNNIEST thing I have heard today!

Love the thought of them running around looking for a fictional character to prosecute........


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  Posted: Aug 8 2008, 06:45 PM
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Hmm, we used to joke about f :badwords: ing sheep or cows.
There was one guy I used to mention that, and he said he had a friend that did sheep, and the called his friend a sick f :badwords: !
I should have jokingly asked if he'd intorduce me to his friend, ha ha ha.
I also recall someone way back, who kinda did a few things, and years later I figured out that he was gay
Recently, I sorta hinted about my sexuality, in an email, though I don't know if she caught the vague hint that I was into doing my animals.
Kinda hard to broach the subject. Possible she might be zoo inclined, but not about to admit it.
the one person, way back, that i could have admitted it to, would not have had a problem with it. He had told me he knew a guy who had relations with cows and other animals, only commented that the guy had died from something or other.
So, it is difficult.
I do, once in a while, break a joke with someone, but always in a way that it is looked at as a joke, without admitting my actual zoo interest.
I have a Zeta pin, but don't wear it. Forget about it when I go to town. Also a Zeta clock, but nobody sees that either. Over the sink in my trailer for now.
Hmm, maybe fix up a clock with a blowup of the cartoon showing a guy doing a ram while his buddies, shagging ewes, call him a sicko!!!
All in all, hard to figure out how to broach the subject in a way that does not out oneself right away.


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Posted: Aug 8 2008, 06:52 PM
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I know of no way to ask other than just flat out saying "are you into zoo/bestiality?" so it's a question that can drive a person insane from curiousity, trust me, been there done that. You can't just assume either cause if you try to say something the person might end up looking at you like you're crazy and that the person is grossed out... not good... soooo.. sorry..
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