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foxtrot
Posted: Mar 24 2004, 07:22 PM
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This is a good question, that I feel I must put forth.

I am a male, first off. Second, I am attracted to male & female dogs.

Now, in my entire life, I have never been attracted to another male human. Only the females of my species.

Now, my question is, those of you like myself, that will gender switch between dogs regularly, do you think that makes you bi/gay? (Not that there is anything morally wrong with either.)

I've noted that most people don't seem to feel that it does make them gay. The gender thing seems to go out the window when we are with animals. I wonder if that's because dogs are so damn capable of pure, unconditional love....

Anyone else have any feelings on this? Or is this just stupid?
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sjpor
Posted: Mar 24 2004, 07:29 PM
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No, I think it's a great question, and I've thought about it myself. Beyond a few fantasies, I really don't have interest in sex with other male humans. But I could see myself letting a male dog fuck me. It's not my first priority, I am mostly interested in bitches and mares. But I could jerk a male dog off, maybe give him oral (though I'm iffy on the "rusty nail" taste I've read about here), and what I previously mentioned.

For some reason, it's different with an animal - to me, too. I don't think in terms of gay (not that there's anything wrong with that ;) ) and straight when we're talking about zoophilia.

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  Posted: Mar 24 2004, 07:41 PM
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The question is that are these "sexual orientations" species-dependent?If not,then there's nothing wrong about it to use these terms in zoophile relationships.
I,for example,consider myself a "heterosexual zoo-exclusive male" and don't have problems with it :D
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Posted: Mar 24 2004, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (BitchFool @ Mar 24 2004, 01:41 PM)
The question is that are these "sexual orientations" species-dependent?If not,then there's nothing wrong about it to use these terms in zoophile relationships.
I,for example,consider myself a "heterosexual zoo-exclusive male" and don't have problems with it :D

I don't think it's wrong to think of gay and straight in terms of cross-species sex. It just doesn't enter my mind.
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Posted: Mar 24 2004, 07:56 PM
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I'm getting married real soon, and am mostly with male dogs. I dont worry about if I'm bi/gay, to me all that should be inportant is if you the human/dog loves you regardless of gender.
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Posted: Mar 24 2004, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (sjpor @ Mar 24 2004, 07:52 PM)
I don't think it's wrong to think of gay and straight in terms of cross-species sex. It just doesn't enter my mind.

Oh,don't take "wrong" literally,I just didn't find the right word for it.
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Posted: Mar 24 2004, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE (BitchFool @ Mar 24 2004, 01:58 PM)
QUOTE (sjpor @ Mar 24 2004, 07:52 PM)
I don't think it's wrong to think of gay and straight in terms of cross-species sex. It just doesn't enter my mind.

Oh,don't take "wrong" literally,I just didn't find the right word for it.

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foxtrot
Posted: Mar 24 2004, 08:32 PM
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Yeah, I was finding trouble wording it right also. I've got no qualms about it either way.... But I thought it interesting to point out that many people don't make any connection with gay / interspecies mating.

God, I sound like a behaviouralist or something...
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Posted: Mar 24 2004, 10:34 PM
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A complex question. I believe you are what you feel you are. But let me look in the dictionary:

It says that gay is distinguished from homosexual primarily by the emphasis it places on the cultural and social aspects of homosexuality as opposed to sexual practice. In accordance with that... gay would not be the right word.

On the other hand, homosexual is of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex... and most definitions of person refer specifically to a human... so homosexual would (probably) not apply either.

So, what would the right word? Maybe we should invent one?

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Posted: Mar 25 2004, 12:08 AM
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I often use the term omniphile when i refer to myself in the zooish sense, and straight when it comes to humans, since being online ive seen more subcatagories of Zoophiles than i can recal at the moment, some are strictly K9, some strictly equine etc. so i came up with Omniphile, that doesnt mean i'll mess around with anything, just means if the opportunity arises i wouldnt say "no way" outright, be it a male animal, or female animal.

Besides, i think George Cloony did a bang up job as Sparky the gay dog on South Park ;)

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Posted: Mar 25 2004, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE (Gunslinger @ Mar 25 2004, 12:08 AM)
I often use the term omniphile when i refer to myself in the zooish sense, and straight when it comes to humans, since being online ive seen more subcatagories of Zoophiles than i can recal at the moment, some are strictly K9, some strictly equine etc. so i came up with Omniphile, that doesnt mean i'll mess around with anything, just means if the opportunity arises i wouldnt say "no way" outright, be it a male animal, or female animal.

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Great... i love that word! Thanks!
I just found out I'm "omniphile" too!
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Posted: Mar 25 2004, 12:53 AM
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(foxtrot Posted: Mar 24 2004, 12:22 PM)
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Now, my question is, those of you like myself, that will gender switch between dogs regularly, do you think that makes you bi/gay? (Not that there is anything morally wrong with either.)


I find this topic interesting. Without regard to labels and exact definitions, if gay/bi refers to being sexually interested in the same/both sex(es) then species may not be a factor. If there were beings from another planet, not human, but distingishable by gender, would you be gay/bi engaging in sex with the same/both genger(s)?

It should go without saying that we're not speaking of moral issues (or we wouldn't be here), but rather if engaging in a sexual relationship with the same sex animal makes you gay or bi (respectively). Coming from a straight man, my guess would be, yes it does.

However, being as open minded as I am (and I think we all agree).........what the hell difference does it make. Live and let live..........worry about the rest of the world's sh*t and hang-ups later...........MUCH LATER.

Very interesting topic. Thanks Foxtrot.

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Posted: Mar 25 2004, 03:15 AM
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Omni, I've got to love that preffix
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Posted: Mar 25 2004, 05:10 AM
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Id have to say that prefere male dogs to humans.
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Posted: Mar 25 2004, 01:28 PM
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Okkkkkk but what if you are bisexual with humans and strictly straight with dogs????? :o lol

Wish i could find the words to express how it angers me that we (the world) feel we must label everything!

Besides how bloody boring would it be if we were all the same!?!?!?!? :)
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