in regards to this great topic i have to ask a question.. hope its ok and no too much off topic..

when surfing beastiality pictures how do you consider the following types of action:

1) male human having sex with a female dog
2) male human having sex with a male dog. Dog doing the mounting
3) male human having sex with a male dog. Human doing the mounting

i have seen lots of sites call all 3 types of action gay but am wondering how you guys feel about it...

and to tell you the truth i was just about to start a topic about it when i saw this one, so thanx for starting a topic about it as its a very interesting subject...

This post has been edited by mickey on Mar 25 2004, 02:01 PM

Yes whiskers, know what you mean. However, for the sake of discussions I guess we need labels to ID what we're talking about. It becomes sad when we use these labels to hurt each other.

After some thought I have to change my position somewhat. I said b4, if you have sex with the same sex animal (for example) that would prob. mean you're gay.

I think others would CALL you gay.........but maybe it's how YOU think of yourself.

Straight with humans but gender switch with animals seems to be no different than me considering myself a straight man even though I have had a sexual experience with a man once in my lifetime. In my mind and interest......I'm straight but some might call me bi because of that one experience.

This post has been edited by mrdjjw on Mar 25 2004, 05:00 PM

I'm 100% gay both with humans and well that's all for now but I will have some male dogs one day. Just don't see myself wanting to be with a female, human or not. And I think when it comes down do it, sex is sex who cares with who as long as you and the other person like it.

id say if you were with both male and female animals, youre bi, or gay if just with the males, doesnt matter which species they are, they are still male and female. but then again it doesnt matter to me, im bi with humans as well, and i dont really care about labels either, im just me. i mean yeah it can hurt when someone who doesnt understand, or who tries to be hurtful calls you gay, but then again thats their problem, the either have issues or lack understanding, and not something im going to dwell on and rethink my whole life for.

mrdjjw has it.... It isn't a question of morality... I assume everyone here is extremely tolerant, and if your not, well, wow are you ever in an odd place.

It definitly doesn't seem to fit the dictionary definition, and I've personally never felt "gay", but when it comes to dogs, I draw no line <chuckle>... Although, I've always perferred females, the males are always more willing! lol...

It doesn't matter who you have sex with. That's the important thing. Believe me, I don't care. But it is a curious sociological question. Damn, I don't think I spelled that right. Oh well, too lazy.

Hmmmmmmm this is an interesting topic ....I dont think anyone would agree with my views on it so normally would never express it .... well here it goes ....hope y'all dont get pissed off at me for it either but here it goes .....

To me when you talk about being a gay man or a bi man basically what you are saying is that you like cock um and for the record I am bi so its all good to me The best lovers I have ever had have been Bi Sexual men and I think that is because they are so comfortable with their sexuality and people who are comfortable with their sexuality are hot between the sheets ;)

Anywho like I was saying to me when you say you are gay or bi it means you like cock....for some they like just sucking on cock for others they like the tight full feeling of cock up their ass. But society puts such a taboo on this that I feel many men can not handle this and are not fully able to enjoy how much those acts turn them on so they turn to women who like wearing strappys and like f*cking men in this manner (beams! ...hehehe) OR they turn to dogs because in their mind its a dog and there for not another man who is going to be hammering their ass....Men can't handle the social stigma that goes along with that yet if its a dog its not considered the same thing.... to me it is.... a cock is a cock be it a human cock or a dog cock..... But I am fine with however men want to see themselves in relation to that..... this was just the way I see it and I have never tried to put it into words before so this really didnt come out the way I wanted it to but as good as its going to get for right now :P ....

Well said, Wendy! ;) I agree with you. There is such a stigma about guys exploring their sexuality with other guys - it's like a team sport, either you're with the gays or the straights, you can't cross the line.

Well, I prefer women, and yet I think I could give a guy a blowjob. In fact, I kind of want to, but don't know if I ever will. So does that make me bi? Who knows? Who cares? I am comfortable with my sexuality, and don't give a damn about what people think, or the legality of whatever I want to do. I'm not pagan, and I realize there's a lot more to the Rede than the most well known verse, but "An ye harm none, do what ye will" is good advice, and I live by it.

:D

Wolfie: Maybe typo, "Boy you have human sex? :)

I do agree, why label everything. it could be that our species prefers to have everything labeled, to clarify everything.

As for me, I am Bisexual Zoo Exclusive male and I am very comfortable with that.

I have also cummed to realise that Zoosexuality, and Zoophilia, are very very diverse.
For instance: One may be :
Gay with dogs yet straight with equines.
Have tastes for wet/scat from one species but not from humans or other animals.
Fully prepared to go down on one species but not on others.
Tends to be very much more openminded that human/human sexualities.

I can't agree fully that a cock is a cock, or puss is a puss, regardless of where it's located :D there are great differances in shape, tastes, attraction etc.

Well time for work, so gotta get going.

I would say at the very most it makes you bi curious and thats it .... I'm all for people exploring their sexuality to the fullest .... I have also been told by straight men that if a woman were in the mix that it would make sucking a guys cock all the hotter because it would be turning her on and seeing that would make it all the hotter for them.... I also think that women in that particular situation help guys who are feeling a little aqward with the whole notion to feel more natural about it......

I believe that sexual gratification is as important as the air we breath and the water we drink.....it is essential to our well being and without we do not function well....... You know if there were suddenly no more men on earth and women were left to women I have no doubt in my mind that women would just turn around and start loving each other and would start to gratify themselves with other women .... I think the same is true of men ....if there were to be no more women on earth would man cease to have sexual desire? Would he cease to try to gratify himself? Will he no longer seek intimacy from beast or another human even if the only other human on earth were another man??? NO!!! I believe they would then turn to each other.... I believe we are first and formost sexual creatures with the capacity to love many things and with the ability to gratify ourselves in many ways.

So you can barf all over us humans all you want that is my opinion just as yours is your opinion.... I do not attack you or want to barf all over you for your opinions!!! ..... Which leads me to ask you if you are so repulsed by humans why even bother coming here? You seem to enjoy enteracting with humans yet repulsed by them at the same time :blink:

Yes I hate human, but we all seem to long for different things in a relationship. I enjoy talking to people, but that is it. Draw the line there.

I was not attacking anything, and if I did, I'm sorry, and did not mean to. I have such a passionate love for the canines, that people don't and will never understand. So it kind of pisses me off, we have killers out there that kills people, child abuser, terrorists, and others. It's something that people talk about openly, it's on the TV, radio and all. It's there, we know and we talk about it. But talk about sex with an animal. Boy, you think you said you were going to blow up earth. Thats all that kinda bugs me Wendy. People will never understand me. So I'm completely, and passionately satified with my life as a lover with dogs, and they can't talk. That's why I'm here, if they talked I wouldn't be here. That how much I love my dogs. If it all makes any sense to you. :unsure:

I knew this topic would fire up a few people. Listen all, we are just exploring the issues and thoughts related to this. Differing opinion is what I wanted to hear, and it's what I got.

I've come to the conclusion that it isn't classified as gay, and if it isn't just zoo, you need another word for it.

I've also come to the secondary conclusion that it doesn't make a yiff of a difference either way what you call it, or what anyone else thinks.

Well... my prefferance is female (bitches or horse). but... I have alowed myself to be... "Courted" shall we say, by a male dog. But in no way or form do I think of myself as gay or bi. Think of more as an experience, not a life style all together if you go that rout. That's the way I look at it.

lol foxtrot iam a bit like you iam stright with humans(tried the bi/gay thing hated it)
but if a dog or horse or any other male aminal asks for "attention" or allows it then iam game to be part of it.

ans i dont really consider myself gay in that mebe bi but with conditions as i wont touch another human male



here a brain teaser for you about how we use words

homosexual is used to discribe males who prefer males(human ) as lover or mate or sex objects
the word comes from the latin?
homo.....meaning human
sexual orention thereof

now take
zooiphila

zoo.... meaning ainal
philia..meaning lover of

zoosexual...lover of aminls

now take it a step further and think aminals taked and wrote etc
and thier talking about one of them loving and haveing sexual relations with a
HUMAN!!!!

what would the other aminals call the one that humped a human??)))

should,nt it be

homosexual
homo....human
sexual...lover of

homophilia would be a dog(or any amnal) loveing humans)))))))))))))))


LOL just a play on words to think about

HB58