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Garurumon
Posted: May 3 2008, 07:33 PM
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Been doing a bit of research about health issues relating to everyone's favorite passtime, and found Link Removed - You need at least 100 posts before you are allowed to post links to other sites wiki article.
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Brucellosis in humans is a potentially life-threatening multisystem disease that can be extremely difficult to treat... The typical symptoms of the type of brucellosis contracted from dogs are: fever that comes and goes, loss of appetite, fatigue, weakness, malaise, sore joints, low back pain, spine pain, headache, depression, abdominal pain, constipation, diarrhoea, vomiting, weakness, dizziness, unsteadiness of gait, and urinary retention. Heart and lung complications can occur. Infected people exhibit only some of these symptoms. Other forms of brucellosis can be more severe.

In most countries up to 10% of dogs carry this bacterium, and even up to 42.7% in some provinces of China, representing a major threat to the health of veterinarians and people who handle the blood or semen of infected animals. In the USA, there are only about 100 cases of human brucellosis diagnosed per year, although some sources consider it underdiagnosed and underreported.

I had never heard of Brucellosis before, but it makes it sound like a pretty big deal to me, I mean 10% of canines in most countries have it? So I came straight here to find out more, but to my shock after searching there was no threads, in fact the few times it is mentioned is just in passing, with no real discussion. Most people seem to not even know about it, your Link Removed - You need at least 100 posts before you are allowed to post links to other sites even states "there are no diseases that are common to both dogs and humans, so none can be transmitted."

Well apparently there is. :blink:

I don't mean to scare anyone, but after spending the last few hours reading up on it, why isn't this discussed more? The info Link Removed - You need at least 100 posts before you are allowed to post links to other sites downplays the actual risk to humans in more developed countries because they assume the chance of pet owners coming into contact with their dog's semen isn't likely... well damn. It's possible the amount of diagnosed cases is low simply because hardly anyone knows about this, and people could have a few symptoms listed for a long time and pass it off as something else minor.

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edit: oh come on that no links below 100 posts thing is stupid, this is important. :censored: Search wiki for "Zoophilia and health" and click on Brucellosis, and google "Brucellosis cdc" for the other info page I linked.

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Posted: May 3 2008, 08:30 PM
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theres not only that, there are a couple of other ones as well...but they are super rare so, it's usually not a worry....you have a better chance of getting cancer....
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Posted: May 3 2008, 09:32 PM
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In the USA, there are only about 100 cases of human brucellosis diagnosed per year, although some sources consider it underdiagnosed and underreported.


Sure it is important to know the information, but 100 cases out of United States estimated Population of 301,139,947 (July 2007 est.) it is not nearly as dire as you are making it out to be.

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Posted: May 3 2008, 10:18 PM
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It has actually be asked many times, but as others have said it isn't that common... and even if the amounts given are not as high as they would be for a zoo, there are plenty more things you can catch from a human partner.
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Posted: May 3 2008, 10:56 PM
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I think with chances of less than 1 in 3,000,000 people getting it, you are more likely to get hit by lightning :rolleyes:

much ado about nothing
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Posted: May 3 2008, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE (Garurumon @ May 3 2008, 12:33 PM)


edit: oh come on that no links below 100 posts thing is stupid, this is important. :censored:

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we do that for the safety of our members,


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Posted: May 3 2008, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (Gryph @ May 3 2008, 03:18 PM)
It has actually be asked many times, but as others have said it isn't that common... and even if the amounts given are not as high as they would be for a zoo, there are plenty more things you can catch from a human partner.

so very true
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Posted: May 4 2008, 12:56 AM
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I've heard of Brucellosis but not of anyone dying from it (not to say they didn't).

I would have thought there's a higher possibility of someone getting rabies than that of Brucellosis. There was a case in the news last week where 4 people were bitten by a dog who turned out to have rabies and they all subsequently died.
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Posted: May 4 2008, 02:01 AM
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Curious1looking...did you mean the people died or the Canines did?... The statement was unclear.

In the US Rabies is most common in the summer months..." The Dog Days" of summer relate both to the advent in the night sky of Sirius,the dog star, and to the time of year when mad dogs are most common...

Oddly, until recently it was unknown why this was, but it's been discovered that Raccoons can carry rabies for many years...baby raccoons can be born with rabies, live long enough to breed, and then pass it in utero to their own offspring , continuing the cycle...to the best of my knowledge, all other mammals die within six weeks of showing overt symptoms of the disease...thus innoculation is the best form of treatment...Here's the Connection between coons and hounds...in Early summer...Raccoon kits are first able to be away from Mom and fend for themselves...they wander a lot before settling into a home ramge...during this "Wanderjahr", they come into contact with all sorts of other critters, including pet dogs and cats...often there is a fight, saliva or blood is exchanged, and rabies is passed on...to my knowledge there's only one or two Human Fatalities per decade from rabies but this is because the potential cases are treated as a matter of course as they occur...awareness is most of the battle...


Brucellosis and other zoonotic diseases aren't common among humans...and aren't likely to be...our critters have to be exposed and carry it before they can expose us...and in our increasingly Urban environment...this simply isn't likely......In fact...Brucellosis is more likely to infect a buffalo or a cow than a dog...and it isn't common in cattle
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Posted: May 4 2008, 02:25 AM
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saddlebum I'm sorry if I was unclear ...... I meant the people died. They didn't make it clear what exactly happened to the dog. I presume it made the television news as rabies is so rare now ..... certainly in Ireland.
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Posted: May 4 2008, 04:21 AM
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some dog breeders wont breed dogs until they get checked for this disease...
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Posted: May 5 2008, 03:43 AM
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I'll have to google that, then Curious1looking...hadn't heard of it, and with what I do for a living, it's odd that I didn't...thanks for the heads-up on it... ;)


Guess I can edit this in...Google hasn't got anything recent on Rabies deaths specifically...the Disease IS on the rise in the US, but we're still looking at 2-4 per DECADE...very low incidence rates...apparently this is due to the rarity of particular bat species that carry a specific strain of this Virus...However, what I wasn't aware of is the 30-50 thousand deaths per year(!) in India...That is an absolutely insane number, given the long existance of vaccines that work...


As in many diseases, education is the key to prevention...I think that, for those of us engaged in our little "hobby", ( I refuse to call it a Fetish) a clearing house of solid information isn't just needful, it ought to be mandatory...and I can't think of a better place to start it than here...

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Posted: May 5 2008, 03:56 AM
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QUOTE (saddlebum66 @ May 5 2008, 03:43 AM)
I'll have to google that, then Curious1looking...hadn't heard of it, and with what I do for a living, it's odd that I didn't...thanks for the heads-up on it... ;)

Do by all means as I walked in half way through the news so didn't catch whether it was here or in the UK (we get both Irish and British news as standard depending on the TV station on at the time) ...... it was only when I heard rabies and people being bitten etc and dying I paid attention before it moved on ...... I wasn't at home at the time, I was in my parents house so didn't have control of the TV and don't know what station they were watching.

But I also got this dog was in kennels apparently and that was how many people he bit (and subsequently died) before he was caught.

Got to say it won't surprise me if you don't find it when you Google it though ... wasn't in the Irish newspapers ..... and it's not something they would talk about given they're proud of their anti rabies programme and that we're such an agricultural country. If it was in the UK and not Ireland you may have more luck finding it ...... and I just know you're not going to ask me what the difference is !

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Posted: May 5 2008, 03:59 AM
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No, Ma'am...I know the difference...<smile>....My mum was a Scots War-bride...

Looks like I was editing while you were posting...I'll look again and see if I can narrow it down... ;)
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Posted: May 5 2008, 04:08 AM
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*smiles gently*

I'm sorry I can't be more of help ........ it caught my attention because there has been no deaths from rabies for many years here ....... but because I wasn't in my house and not my TV etc ....... I missed some of it ...... but there were even pictures that acompanied the news report of the kennels ...... so definitely wasn't a figment of my imagination ........

If it happened here ........ the 26 counties that form the Republic of Ireland ......and I'm not trying to be political here ...... truly ....... it should have been in the papers if it was on TV ...... so I'm thinking it might have been a Northern Ireland or the UK news bulletin if that helps ......
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