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zennie
Posted: Jan 1 2008, 06:40 PM
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jpetlove, thanks If all beople would be like you, I think that there would be less troube in this world. cheers
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Posted: Jan 1 2008, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE (curious1looking @ Dec 23 2007, 09:13 PM)
QUOTE (WolfLust @ Dec 23 2007, 08:23 AM)
in a form of logic

there maybe one or few small communities that do practice some form of shamanic, druid or Irish wittan ritual or some what follow the life style there of, but it sounds like, it's their own way.
There is no right or wrong way of witch craft as long as it harms none.
It does sound a little bit extreme to state that their only source of income is prostitution.
sure sex is an in thing with those who practice the craft as it's part of life's cycle
but to have sex as the marital ritual sounds over the top also saying that it depends on the individual/s if they are into sex or not

there are events where wiccans, pagans, and all sorts of practitioners can congregate
but I have heard of no communities here in Australia that live their lives similar to the Amish with Lust as a center of their ways

personally the whole thing sounds a bit screwed up and some what fantasized

*Frowns*

Be careful before you start lobbing in phrases like Irish wiccan (which I presume you meant) ritual please!

I'm Irish ..... the 100 per cent born and bred here and still living here variety ... and I have never heard of anything like this.

I would appreciate if you didn't throw in comments blithely like this about people living in other countries :huh:

You may want to read this book before you get too bent out of shape Courious... Or google Irish wiccan ritual ;)
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Posted: Jan 2 2008, 01:42 AM
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I have made the aquaintance of many Wiccan women online through social networking sites and I have always found them to be at least tolerant and often curious about bestiality. I think this is because of the tolerant nature of their belief systems and also their desire to be as close as possible to the wild and natural and to value it very highly.

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Posted: Jan 2 2008, 03:44 AM
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QUOTE (zennie @ Dec 23 2007, 05:47 PM)
WolfLust, So you are australian. That pagan comune supouse to exist in Nango area . By the way, Did you follow the story about that girl from Queensland coast somewhere, her picture was on the front page of a Magazine Called,,Picture,, she was on the photo with two large Collumbian ratts attached to her breasts. Than the next day A differend news crew went to see her , and she admited that it was sexualy stimmulating to have ratts suckling on her breasts. Than after that news,,, the townfolks runn her out of town, After she was runn out of town, she went to live in a comune in northern NWS, where the women attached the animals not only to theyr breasts. And that ratt woman was instantly theyr Goddes. It was all in the papers few years back. So such or simular comunes do exist. Even here in Australia.

ok interesting

I was passing through Nanango the other night too B)

I guess I need to do a little more research ....

thanks for the notation I'll be a little more aware
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Posted: Jan 2 2008, 03:54 AM
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QUOTE (Nitely @ Jan 2 2008, 07:18 AM)
QUOTE (curious1looking @ Dec 23 2007, 09:13 PM)
QUOTE (WolfLust @ Dec 23 2007, 08:23 AM)
in a form of logic

there maybe one or few small communities that do practice some form of shamanic, druid or Irish wittan ritual or some what follow the life style there of, but it sounds like, it's their own way.
There is no right or wrong way of witch craft as long as it harms none.
It does sound a little bit extreme to state that their only source of income is prostitution.
sure sex is an in thing with those who practice the craft as it's part of life's cycle
but to have sex as the marital ritual sounds over the top also saying that it depends on the individual/s if they are into sex or not

there are events where wiccans, pagans, and all sorts of practitioners can congregate
but I have heard of no communities here in Australia that live their lives similar to the Amish with Lust as a center of their ways

personally the whole thing sounds a bit screwed up and some what fantasized

*Frowns*

Be careful before you start lobbing in phrases like Irish wiccan (which I presume you meant) ritual please!

I'm Irish ..... the 100 per cent born and bred here and still living here variety ... and I have never heard of anything like this.

I would appreciate if you didn't throw in comments blithely like this about people living in other countries :huh:

You may want to read this book before you get too bent out of shape Courious... Or google Irish wiccan ritual ;)

thanks for the reference Nightly appreciated ....

always looking for input though I have already red some of edain McCoy's material...

and Curious1looking, no I actually meant witta it is a little more backdated in it's traditions than the wicca I'm led to believe though very similar. I haven't been able to find much about it other than some references of it's existence I do keep saying people take things I say the wrong way ... please OBSERVE a little better before you start putting up your hackles I don't say things to upset any one ...I find nothing wrong with Irish ways of living or their beliefs, I have a lot of Scottish blood in veins so I'm close to home...read the whole of what I said again and try to understand why I said it in the first place that means read also the first post in the thread....

YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW ANNOYING IT IS WHEN PEOPLE HAVE A GO AT ME FOR THINGS, WHEN THEY ONLY THINK THEY HAVE THE WHOLE PICTURE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Posted: Jan 3 2008, 01:22 AM
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I would think that any modern day wicca, pagan or practicing witch would at least be understanding about bestiality. What could there possibly be in their particular beliefs systems that would make them be against it. :thinking:
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Posted: Jan 3 2008, 04:57 AM
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However, not all Pagans and Wiccans are tolerant and willing to except this particular lifestyle. It's a choice and just because we are respectful nature worshippers does not in fact make us Zoo. The same goes that one could say that most wiccans/pagans are in fact lesbians agian not true....it's a lifestyle choice. I choose to be what i am, do i practice wicca yes, do i participate in beast sex no, am i a lesbian not by a long shot. Yes i would love to at least try k9, but i don't see it happening. And i have been with another woman but they are not a part of me being wiccan. Agian they are lifestyle choices and not every pagan or wiccan will participate in them. Hope everyone here understands that....Blessed Be
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Posted: Jan 3 2008, 07:55 AM
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wiccans, pagans or whatever you got me realy comfused. You K9wiccan, you eve bering the name that suggests that you are into dogs, but you are saying that you are not into animals, but you would like to try with dogs. Would it not be more apropriate to try dogs first, and if you like it,, than asume that nick ? So I wonder why are you here ?
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Posted: Jan 3 2008, 03:16 PM
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Oh dear ... as Juliet said "What's in a name? A rose by any other name..." We seem unable to get beyond that puritan witchcraft obsession of the 16th and 17th centuries.

We have heard from three members who embrace the Wicca/Pagan religion and yet their voice seems to go unheard!

referring to zennie's original post re bestiality:

k9wiccan Posted: Dec 23 2007, 04:57 AM
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Some covens are like that, however most are not.


warrior44_us Posted: Dec 23 2007, 04:10 PM
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I belong to a circle (coven seems too structured to us), and whether privatly practised by some in our group, it is not sactioned generally.


... and I can also understand curious1looking's indignation at the use of a national (Irish) tag. Such terms are easily misunderstood and just these few posts have shown how little common understanding there is.

One of BF's greatest strengths is the tolerance and respect for others viewpoints - and that extends to usernames - many here have some species tag as part of their username - but it is generally taken as indicating a particular interest and not necessarily actual physical involvement.

Perhaps we should be less concerned about the exotic habits real or imagined of other cultures and rather more with ensuring that we lead our own lives in the spirit that our 'Wicca' members have indicated.

warrior44_us Posted: Dec 23 2007, 04:10 PM
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"no right or wrong way, if it harms none".


P.S Don't believe evrything you read in newspapers!!! :thinking: :whistling:

Orlanda :puppykiss: :puppykiss:

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Posted: Jan 3 2008, 06:16 PM
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And i name can mean many things.....i'm a avid dog lover, i would rather own dogs than cats anyday of the week, hence the k9 part tis better then spelling out cainine don't you think. I'm also a wiccan so there you have it my name here. As for why i'm here, gathering information, before i jump head first into a fantasy/desire that i've had for a while. Which last time i looked was the purpose of all the how-to threads and in part this board.

But back on topic in response to silkythighs, though many will not openly condone beastiality, they will not openly condemn it either. Goes back to lifestyle choices and beliefs.
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zennie
Posted: Jan 3 2008, 08:59 PM
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K9wiccan, thanks for your explanation. So I will bear in mind that the nick does not nessesary represents the person. for example, if the nick is Georgina it could be actualy George. Nevertheless we are here in this wonderfull forum, and we all can learn a lot here. And let us not start a battle of the wiccans, and let love our animals , especialy dogs, hmmmmmmmm
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Posted: Jan 3 2008, 09:43 PM
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I think you did the right thing. You wasn't to naive :)
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jpetlove
  Posted: Jan 4 2008, 12:38 AM
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Was just wondering after reading the topic started by Zennie if any member would like to start a Pagan/Wicca group as their seems to be a few of us on here. I would start this myself but not sure how to go about it and do not want to get into trouble with the mods. Here is to a Blessed Meet.
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Posted: Jan 4 2008, 03:05 AM
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Wow, thanks. A good thread and I enjoyed Peeking in and seeing what it was all about. My thanks for all the good information that I'd of not otherwise been privy to. Hope that all are well with all.

A 10 to all.
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Posted: Jan 4 2008, 04:40 AM
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My apologies I've only recently returned to this thread and unsure how to quote what some individual posters said in this response ....... so am doing the best I can ^_^

Nitely I'm perfectly entitled to take exception when the Irish are singled out particularly for anything ...... and "get bent out of shape" ..... there was no need to single us out in particular

Wolflust With respect you should be more sensitive to what you say and not pick out individual races and I OBSERVED quite sufficiently thank you in my opinion ... I'm not surprised people "have a go at you" ..... try reading your comments sometimes maybe and think would you be offended if you were that nationality ?

Orlando Lupae..... Thank you for understanding my indignation at the use of national labels / tags ^_^ .... and you're quite right about the usernames ..... I for example came across a user name recently of BloodyIrish ...... I could complain that is racist and it is from an Irish person's viewpoint ..... I am not going to but it is very offensive.

For the record I have no problem with how others live their lives or their beliefs even when different to mine ..... but please do not single out a whole country unnecessarily and lob us all together.

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