I'm not too sure I understand this forum. Sometimes everyone says it's so wrong to force an animal, and that those who do are to be banned. But then, we have this post talking about buying a dog. Not just normally buying a dog, but buying one with sex in mind.

In the video and picture forum, we have pics of women dildogging. I'm not too sure, but shouldn't dildogging not be allowed? It seems like the animal is being forced to mate in an akward manner.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but people seem to be divided in those ways.

It's almost like religion, some people choose to follow this belief, and so they form a new branch. That's how we are. We have branched from animal sex into beastiality and zoophilia.

If ever we wanted this to be accepted, we have to branch back into a single group under a unique code of ethics and principals.

i never liked "dildogging" myself, but i did not know what the correct term for it was. i don't think that it is natural at all for the dog and that if someone wants to be in a sexual relationship with their dog...they should just let it happen naturally.

Hello. I feel that this is exactly right. My beliefs are very strong. I feel that any extension of a loving relationship, ie: sex should occur naturally. If it does not progress in a manner that both participating partners feel comfortable with then it is wrong. When you cross that line you move into forcing the animal and ultimately raping it. You give up an eternity of love for a worthless 5 mins when acts like that occur.

This is nice but it won't hold film producers back from making "dildogging" movies....as long as there are people out there who don't know it's not good and pay $$$ for their internet porn they wank off to.
About those idiots who force their animals and enjoy it:I'm sure they will NEVER come to such places like this and speak for themselves.They simply don't have the guts.
And they miss what it feels like to build up a bond with your love from scratch to the bedroom :P It's not an easy way to sex but it's really worth waiting :D

I agree in full. and I don't like dildogging abit, but like Bitchfool said, It won't make the producers stop. They don't care for the animals, they don't see them as lovers and partners, they seem to view them as form of source of money making.
There is a GREAT deal of people that jack off to pix and videos of people having sex with animals without knowing Jack-Shit about the way animals work, or function. I have talked to some others, and have to agree with them when they say that most that get porn from the net or in the stores don't really see the beauty of the relationship between man & animal, Most stuff is with women and animals, and this is a form for many to "degrade" women as they find it a way to make women inferior to them. This is something I can't see or figure out, as I feel that having sex and a deep relationship with an animal or two is special and I view them if not as equal then definately as superior.

I am sure as been stated that those who force their animals won't come here.

I think you've said it all there, Svadilfari

Regrettably we have to accept that animals are still "property" and if you want to get a dog, horse or whatever it's probably going to involve a monetary transaction, unless you get very lucky.

That said just buying an animal for sex is, IMHO, completely wrong. Buying one with the hope of forming a loving partnership that might, hopefully, become a physical relationship is another matter.

Dildogging (whoever thought up that word is a *genius*) quite frankly bores me stupid (as does most if not all commercial beastie porn). I can see why a director would use the shot though as it affords the best view of penetration which is what the majority of viewers (I guess) would want. I suppose that it doesn't bother the dog that much eirther as a male dog once his knot has swelled in a bitch will throw his leg over and complete the mating "bum to bum" so I guess that it doesn't hurt.

Still boring though :)

Drac

I have said it once in a similar thread.Standing there and cuming all over is natural to the dog.Dildogging might not hurt him - it's just..annoying to see.

Shadow likes to bring these topics up every once in a while so here goes my views. to me Dildogging is unnatural and unacceptable. the woman/ man should get much more pleasure from the dog pounding their loins into their backside.

Also about "buying a dog for sex". It may come off sounding like that but many here mean they would buy a puppy raise a trusing relationship and if the trust and love is there have relations with him/ her. they would never buy a dog abuse it, [CENSOR] it, and not care for it. Plus its like any relationship. you have to come in contact with your partner before you can get it on. Just my opinion tho

I agree, The man/woman should be getting Lots more fun being pounded by the dog.

What also has to be brought into mind, is that there are MANY MANY animals out there that get abused and get treated really bad. There are those who has animals that are neglected, starving, standing in their own filth for months, Extremely Crappy conditions, and now some goverments are trying to get at zoophiles, for "abusing" them sexually.
So many do see animals as pure property and something which one can treat in any way they like.

Damn what a species we are.

this is such a touchy subject...while i dont beleive anyone should hurt an animal, bondage and forced sex [if done gently] seem ok to me. Im mostly talking about farm animals here...goats, sheep, hogs, etc. that people usually slaughter, never even thinking of sex with them. I happen to like being put in bondage and forced myself, and i like the idea of being put in bondage with animals. I would like to be fucked by a pony or a min. horse, and thats possible with the animal in bondage so it can only move its hips enough to push about half its big cock into me...and me under it, maybe on a bench...also in bondage. otherwise, it would tear me up, and i know it. I could go on , but ill most likely catch hell for saying what i already have said on this subject. those who dont like what i said will mostly be people who have never lived on a farm...well, i have. ;)

Furshame, furshame, furshame!!! .... Hon animals are not like people!!! People are capable of reasoning that being tied and bound is a temporary act that we have "Chosen" to engage in ....but animals cant reason that out nor was it their choice to be tied and bound.... All it knows is that its being tied and bound and that they too may have the smell of death on them at the end of whatever is happening to them...and for what? All so that you can feel it thrusting in and out of you for all of what? 20 minutes???....So all you are doing is creating panic and stress in the animal......Can't you see that? Is there no compassion in your heart for that? I'm not trying to act like some kind of Anti anti right wing right to animal life moralist.... but to casually say that these are animals that are going to the slaughter house anyways so there for they dont count or it does not matter is wrong and in humane..... Even tho we eat them we still should not be torturing them.... I know only in perfect world does such a thing exsist and well okay I accept that but does not mean I will ever condon it and does not mean I wont always choose a more humane way of doing it.....and never would I ever consider adding panic and stress during their last few minutes of life.

I'm not mad at you hon but stuff like this does sadden me because I know it goes on and I know that you are probably tame by comparison.....

Wendy

Hey all This is Furshamed sister. I just want to explain his postion a little better than I think he can. He in no way hurts animals. It was said that animals can't tell the difference in being bound to be hurt that is not true. Most tame animals are bound at one point in their lives. You put collars on them. and at first they don't like it but then the realize that you are not going to hurt them. When you break a horse is is scared until it realizes that you are not going to hurt it. It is to me the same thing. If you take you time and show the animal that it isn't a act of pain inflication and that it is not going to be hurt in any way than the animal will enjoy the act. To say that animals can't reason is not true. You of all people should know just how smart they can be. Furshamed does not believe in hurting any animal. But he doesn't want to be physiclly hurt himself. There are times in animal relationships there has to be some kind of restraint or both parties could be hurt. Expecally when you are dealing with larger animals. Sometimes it is necessary to have restraints to prevent that from happening. People have a certain image of bondage as being a bad thing. When there is pain and or death involved it is wrong. That is not what Furshamed is into. Its not like he is going to just walk up to an animal and tie it up and do his thing. He is a very caring person and I didn't want you to think any thing bad about him. Sometines he just doesn't explain himself as well as he should. Thanks for letting me put my two cents in. :ph34r: I'm not into animals myself, but i've always stood up for my brother when he needed me and hes always done the same for me.

First: Furshameds Sister: Wonderfull explained ;) I doupt he would have intedned to do force the animal into bondage (not my thing ;)). I see what you mean, a dog wears a colar or a harness - i wouldnt call that bondage :)
As for horses, has anyone of you ever seen a platemail made for a warhorse? Is held by several leatherstraps all around the body of the horse. On the belly, the chest, neck, hindlegs and sometimes even hips. And those horses were trained to wear this stuff... I wouldnt call that bondage either ;)
I know i know, bad example but it was the only thing that came to my mind :P

The dildoging part was allready explained so i wont bother to push this further. I can only add i also find it boring :P

What next, buying... Sadly its the only way to 'purchase' a animal. I dont like the word as i dont 'buy' myslef a animal, i exchange the permission to care for him/her and the honor to live with him/her for money. I also dont call myself 'owner' im just the partner of the animal... Only on paper (and maybe on Computer) its written that im the owner - but not in my mind! Im not his master not his owner only his partner and mate!

As for buying a animal only for sex is IMHO not only wrong but also very immoral! But sometimes which we should think a bit further - what is the better choice:
live and only sex or death?
The first option allways contains the possibility to find love and build a bond betweend animal and human - my current lover wasnt my dog and i didnt cared for him the first two years of his live but now i love him like nothing else. The scond choice contains nothing else then death, so whats better?

To me sex never ment much, i allways liked the wuzzy feeling of real love. The closeness to my mates, the warm loving feeling i felt when i was with them, the feeling of being 'complete' when i was with my first love! Thats one the reasons im still virgin to animals and humans - to keep these feelings instead of enjoing a few minutes of sex and losing them afterwards... (of course i need to add i knew nothing about canince anatomy and therefor i was to afraid i could hur her ;))

hay all I just asked this same question the other day.. I was asking if you all thought it was the same for the animal side of the act when its being dildoed. or if its going at it the normal way. I feel that if you are in an intamate act with your loving pet than you would want both paries to be enjoying the time you having , and when I see soone dildoing a dog I feel that its only the girl / guy who is having the pleasure. I hope Im not stepping out of line sence im not one of your major site workers I still cant figure out how to post movies, but i am for the animals and and i just wanted to share. thanks for the chance. :D