it,s like I said before in a post I posted in the old forum , People who get animals solely for sex are sick if you force any animal for sex you are nothing more than a rapist and should be treated as one .this is just my view?

Part of me wishes a dog would force me into being his bitch.

I see what you mean, tons of stories about that one

You know, I will watch zoo movies or view pics sometimes -- but have never, ever found any arousal from "dildogging" movies. If the animal isn't into it, it's just a turn off for me. I get more turned on by simply staring at a dogs face, no sexual stuff involved.

Hi Furshame's Sister!!!! :P (get your own ID gurl!!!) lol

Okay ... thank you for explaining that to me and I do understand better now although in all honesty I still do not know how comfortable I am with the whole thing .... And although I dont know your brother all that well in the few exchanges I have had with him in my heart I know he would never hurt an animal thats why I said I was not mad at him.

One thing is certain he sure has an awesome sister and it was touching to read you come to his defense the way that you did.

Wendy :)

I think dildoging is wrong. If the dog won't mount the woman & mate with her doggystyle, then the woman and dog should not have sex. It is not natural for a dog to mate that way & could hurt the dog. I believe the dog is being forced to mate with the woman when they are dildoging. The same can also be said when a woman straddles a dog. We all know that male dogs like human pussy & will mount a woman when aroused enough. If the dog is not mating with the woman doggystyle, I am really not into watching or seeing it. That is afterall, how male dogs mate with female dogs.

My .02 c worth is that dildogging is not natural, nor does it do much for me, it doesn't injure the animal, but is still not something I care to see. The feel of being enthusiastically pounded is one that is indescribable, and an act of love and lust.


Liambackdoor

Very interesting discussion here!

Well first of all I don't like dildogging; not the idea, not the sight. I'm a huge humping freak here and my point of view using an animal sex toy is just plain wrong.
Let me tell you more about my situation; I had my first experience with my best friend's Dobermann. I've always had a great realtionship with him, in fact he considers me like his second master. I've always felt a deep affection towards that dog and I realy loved him. He actualy "introduced" me into the whole thing. I had some fantasies about having sex with dogs but never knew I would actualy do it. I was staying over and was having some fun with myself. He came over to me and started licking my private parts. I still can't explain the excitement I felt. I let him lick me and after some forplay we went all the way. Afterwards I was totaly confused. What had I done, was I mentaly ill, ... (you all know the feeling)
Afterwards I wanted to get myself a dog; not for having sew with a dog but to be able to feel the same thing I felt for the dobb.
Hope this doesn't sound hypocrite but this was just how I felt. I wait for like 2 years to get my own dog so you can't say at all it took it lightly!
I built up a great realtionship with him and after he was old enough I started training him but very slowly, at first I though it would never work out but I didn't care too much about it back then.

After a full year of training (so 4 years of waiting before we had sex) he was fully up to it and I still remember the first time he mounted me and went for it. I think I kissed and stroked him for more then an hour afterwards!
I think the sex has only improved our relationship and has brough it to another level although that doesn't mean at all you need to have sex to have a extremly good relationship with your pet.
I don't consider my pet as my property; I take care of him and he takes care of me.
I treat him like a dog (don't treat animals like humans) and that doesn't mean at all I take full control of him. I teach him how to behave and don't let him dominate me, that's all.
I've never let him do anything that he didn't want to do and was bad for him.
I have done some things that he didn't want to do but were good for him (like teaching him to walk with a leach when he was a little pup, you should have seen him go mental ;) ).
The subject is quite complex; I consider my dog as equal and I would risk my life to save his but that doesn't mean I let him do as he likes.

Hope this all doesn't sound to crazy and hypocrte, but this thread realy made me think. Members like --2--, HR and svadilfari made very big impression on me, can't agree more!

Personally, and this is only my opinion for me personally here... to me it is absolutely wrong to force an animal or anyone or thing into something, especially sex. To me, "Dildogging" is abuse and I won't have any form of pics or vids of it.

You are right that in order for this to be accepted it will have to be as one group with good ethics and principles but there is one problem...
Alot of people who call themselves "zoo" don't really have an understanding of what it means, and therefore they still have sex with animals. usually many, any, and all animals they come in contact with, and in rough ways.

Yes, I do believe there is a need for a split into at least two distinct [SPAM]... as they are... "Zoo's" and "Beasties". "Zoophilia" = fondness and attraction to animals; a deep overwhelming love for non human animals; a deviation towards sex with animals. "Beastiality" = sexual gratification with an animal; engaging in sexual acts with non human animals.
The True Zoo is one who adores, loves, cares for deeply, and would even be a martyr for their loved one, whereas beasties only USE animals for their own personal satisfaction without regard to the animal as a living loving being.

I am a zoo but I don't really prefer that either because too many associate the term with beasties.... I prefer petlover/petslover/pet-lover, any of the three :D

As for buying a dog just for sex, to me again that would be the same as buying a hooker or slave... which I think they need to do something about making a law prohibiting high prices on animals like they do - it IS slavery to buy and sell life period... you are buying and selling into bondage just like all the slaves all over the world.
Therefore, it is wrong... but again that is me... :D

As far as principles go... I have been into animal rights and other [SPAM] before that help save animals from suffering and danger but I never have let on to my lifestyle with them... you simply can't. I would help an animal in distress but if someone had a animal lover... as long as they were showing love and treating their partner with respect and dignity, then by all means they should make love together if their love goes that deep.

Always remember this... people are individual with their own minds and they will believe how they will, so in a way it is like religion because I can't think of one that agrees with another either... ;lol:

No offense to anyone please... this is only myself personally... :D

I so agree, i never liked the "dildogging" you can just see that the dogs don't like it and are not really enjoying it.

I can't understand how anyone could force or hurt a dog just for sex, let's face it, the 5-30 mins or how ever long it lasts, is just not worth it. It is so much better when you take the time to truely love the animal, get to know it, know it's individural personality, and slowly move to sex, as a extension of love, not lust, and it is so much better, so much more intense, and the love that will be shared is 1000 times better and stronger, and it is so much better and intense to be makeing love to an animal that wants to make love back to you, not just stand there afraid of being hurt if he/she don't do what you want. I feel very strongly about this. I can't even concider being sexural with another female dog, being exclusive female dog zoo, especialy if it is another zoo's girl, until at the very least i spend lots of time getting to know her first, and then only then if she is ok and wants it, and even then the situation has to be just right, i much muhc prefer to be with my own girl. I've only really been with a couple other than my own, and they were very special ocasions. Sex just needs to be based on love not lust.

Sorry about the strong feelings but that is just teh way i feel about it. I don't mean to belittle anyone in anyway, just stating how i feel. :D

Tundra

I thought I would add a reminder here now that I am seeing this thread re-brought up... you can view the whole taboo sticky here but I thought I would post this part here as a reminder!


BEAST ZOO DEFINITIONS: We have working definitions for this site for these terms - WE DON'T CARE what any dictionary defines them as - let me repeat - WE DON'T CARE -these are the definitions that stand for this site:

zoo - one who is exclusive in thier relationship(s) with animals and is "in love" with animals like the traditional sense of humans being in love.

beast - one who loves and cares for animals -engages in sexual activities with animals -but is not exclusive -and is not 'in love" with thier animal.

THESE ARE IN STONE -and have been argued on this forum way too many times - DO NOT refer to our members who consider themselves beast by our definition as raapist -or not "true zoos" or somehow less than a zoo exclusive - THIS IS A FORUM for EVERYONE interested -there are different interest here -some members may be here because they have a significant other who is interested -there are lots of members who are here because they are sexually aroused by those who are active but not active themselves and have genuine motives - there are many reasons why members are here - ANYONE making ANY comment that they are not as valuable of members to this forum because of thier lack of being active -or level of involvment will be BANNED IMMEDIATELY! It is NOT UP FOR CONVERSATION OR DEBATE! JUST DON'T DO IT!

I HATE dildogging, :mad: i think its so unatural... and ina way whats the piont? just buy a frigging dildo...lmao! The thought of a dog mouting you is so more erotic and natural, that is why i like it.

I remember i saw a picture aggeess ago of this bloke who tied up a goat and held its back legs up to him so he could get his cock in! now that is bloody creul.. not natural at all and the animal has no freedom to do it...

I find... if an animal *wants* to do it then thats ok... if a dogs wishes to mount you and enjoys it then it is ok... :D

And saying that people just buy a dog for sexual perposes is silly... Ive always wanted a dog for as long as i can remember (even before i was into zoo) and the fact of my always wanted one has drawn me closer into getting one.

I work allday with people who have dogs, freinds, people at work... and i feel im missing out.. I have always loved dog behaviour anyway and i love the fact of walking dogs and one just to be your dog companion or sleep on your bed, or just to be by your side is lovely... and i feel i will be connected even more now that over the past 4years im becomming more into zoo.


This post has been edited by Akita_fun on Feb 22 2006, 12:22 AM

we seem to mostly all be on the same page. I also strongly disagree with dildoing. I see it as not giving the animal the choice. Shure it could turn around and just bite you but that would go against all it was tought. If you want to practice dildoing go buy a dildo. you would get the same effect. And as for the forced sex issue, You being tied up and raped by your dog is one thing, Hell I would love that but it cant go the other way around. that is wrong.

My vote goes to Svadil... he says it very well!!.. cheers guys ...BZ.

As seems to be the case with just about everyone who has posted in this thread, I too am against "dildogging". Although the position is quite natural for the male dog, there is still so much wrong with it.
For starters, usually for dildogging, the male dog has already swollen to a full knot for maximum size and 'show'. But he has also blown his load. To him, the deed is done. And again, even though the position is normal during mating... with dildogging, there is usually another person there "Forcing" the dog back and forth for the full sexual effect.
Repeat - Forcing. the dog is not doing this of its own free will. Usually it is held into place. In the cases that bother me most, there isn't even an assailent... just a single person holding the dog firmly behind the knot, and pulling the dog into themselves.

... sounds an aweful lot like the dirty "R" word, doesn't it?