For me it's a 50/50 thing i've only asked about 5 women how they felt about and could they 1day see them self doing it out of the 5 only 2 apposed it 1 was like hell that's just so nasty and anyone who does it needs 2 be put jail and all that shit the other was like if that's what u like o-well but she just could not see herself doing but we did talk about it so i think she would do it if i worked on her it may take a while but hell i got time the other 3 hell 1 has done it and she loved it and the other 2 r ready

people are under the idea that beastiality = rape, ask people about it most will say animals cant consent, but we here know thats not true :D

Exactly
The biggest problem i think is that most people are ignorant and just want someone to hate.
So if only 10 people hate zoophilia, they can get about 100 others that will also join in the hate just to hate someone.

I believe in the line, to each their own.
Unfortuntly most do not actually understand the meaning of that line.
It means that so long as you don't force anyone you can do what you want. So zoophilia is ok to me but raping someone is not ok to me.
So i personally am open to letting anyone do whatever they want so long as they follow, to each their own.

well beastiality is not something understood. Religion, and christain-like views which are instilled into society whether people like it or not, often create a view of it being wrong, same with homosexuality and so on.

People fear what they don't understand, and most people won't want to understand it, it's sadly the way some people work...

Not only that, but once a group (or mob) of people establishes a firm goal or ideology, people will be pressured to think and act the same out of fear of rejection. This is especially true if there are harmful negative consequences, if a group has violent intents.

If a whole group of people are angry and raving about anything such as bestiality, and threatening to hurt anyone involved, nobody will want to stand up and offer defense for it, or even offer a neutral opinion. Basically it's the concept of: "If you're not with us, you're against us. If you don't care either way, you're too soft on the opposing side and are still against us."

This is one of those strong psychological barriers that can only be worn down over time. You could slap someone in the face with a thousand page book of logic and reasons why zoophilia isn't wrong, but it won't change their core beliefs. The only way people will ever change their mind about a subject is if they're open minded and curious enough to pursue information on their own.

This post has been edited by ZetterGRD on Jul 26 2007, 08:33 PM

One line of reasoning says that animals can't make _informed_ consent, and in that way they are equivalent to children. Anyone with much understanding of animals knows better, and when someone tries to equate attraction to animals to attraction to children, it becomes ridiculous. But it sells. Add in the occasional animal-mutilation rumor and you can bring satanic cults into the picture, too.

And then yeah, some people are just looking for something to hate about anyway, so when you start them off with misinformation like "satanic mutilating beast rapists are seeking your children next" and they build from there, then you get some really nasty stuff.

*shrug* nothing we can do to change that trait, so better to be careful - you can still be attacked because of the color of your skin these days, but at least zoos can be "invisible" unless caught, or they reveal themselves by talking.

Mods, if I crossed any age-content lines, I'm sorry.

I think that a lot of people have just never really thought about it that much, and the instinctive reaction is to reject anything "odd".

Things are changing though, in the past sodomy was illegal pretty much everywhere (still is in some places), but after a while people realised that as long as it's consensual, then why not. What difference does it make to anyone else? It basically moved from being "odd" and something to be rejected, to something that perhaps person x would not do themselves, but if persons y and z wanted to, then why not. Now it's moving to it's not really odd at all, it's just sex, and more people are willing to try it.

I find it telling that in certain countries where bestiality is legal, it was made legal at the same time as sodomy was decriminalised, clearly those countries recognised that the same principle of consensual sodomy, applied to consensual bestiality.

In the last 50 years society as a whole has made big strides in terms of rejecting racism, homophobia, etc., so take heart that in the future society will probably reject zoophobia(?).

In the mean time, it's probably best to keep your sex life private in general, and rather share experiences / thoughts etc. with like-minded people, like us.

I think people are too prudish when it comes to sex.

Sure, you can be accepted (that is, not hostile towards but maybe get a few odd glances) if you have a foot fetish, if you like scat porn, if golden showers turn you on, if orgies are arousing, if anime is downright stunning, even if car crashes make you horny (yes, that does exist)
AS LONG AS IT IS WITH A HUMAN OF THE OPPOSITE SEX.

You add an animal or someone of the same sex to the picture, then suddenly it's wrong and offensive, and if you find it even slightly arousing, you're just as bad as those involved.

(None of the above fetishes apply to me, FYI :lol:)

People say "But if you like animals, why not children? It's practically the same thing".

Wrong.

Children are children because they aren't sexually mature. Even if they're 17 and will be 18 in two weeks, it doesn't matter. They're not a legal adult.

Animals that are involved in zoo acts are (primarily) sexually mature. And if you don't force it upon them, there is no harm done.

Just look at who "founded" America. What group of British people colonized the eastern seaboard of America, and later took over the entire land? Puritans. And to quote Robin Williams, "A group of people even the British thought were too uptight". Or something along those lines. The puritan-like mindset still infests American culture. While this doesn't really apply to other countries, it sure as hell does to America. The only "truely correct" form of sex is a man and woman of the same skin color in the missionary position, with the man on top and the woman on bottom. That is what is acceptable by American society. If you deviate from that in any way, even switching the role (man on bottom, woman on top), then you are sexually perverted. And it takes a single person to destroy it for anyone else. Washington state used to allow this (or at least, with horses) until a gay couple had sex with a stallion and the one on the receiving end died because the horse went too far into his butt.

The hatred stems from people's fear of the unknown. And not many people know exactly what we are, and what we do. They just think we rape animals. But we all know that is untrue. Society's view of animals is they are just "dumb beasts", which would mean they can't consent. But we all know that animals are very smart, and CAN and DO consent. And sometimes, initiate it. While I have no delusions of this ever to be accepted, but it would be nice to where it wouldn't be illegal.

I understand and even accept the hostility of which you speak. Like others have already said, most people feel the animal cannot consent to the sexual contact. I too become very uncomfortable when I think about men having sex with female and/or male animals. It's far too easy for a man to simply get himself off at the expense of an animal. So there must be laws to prevent or attempt to prevent such things.

Yes it's a double standard, but I have virtually no objections to women having sex with male animals. How anyone can say that a male dog, or even more so, a male horse. Can be forced to have sex is simply beyond me. However a woman can be forced to have sex with a male dog. So again I can understand their being laws about bestiality.

This post has been edited by silkythighs on Jul 26 2007, 11:00 PM

(sigh) I've felt so sad recently, I just looked up "Bestiality" on Yahoo Answers which I suggest you NEVER DO because I just found a bunch of ignorant and very unintelligent people relating us to pedophiles and rapists. Its just sick really.

Poor German Shepard, I love them, I feel very sad for your loss

I never knew how much people hated this, even the people that hate gays, how people can still be so ignorant in this society both amazes and disgusts me.

I say RISE UP my friends!!!

Feel good about who you are!!!

Start a movement! Write a story! Tell a friend!

Make a difference!

Don't let them take away who you are because they don't understand how we think and who we are, the best thing you can do is find someone with... common interests.

I did, and it was the best thing that ever happened to me.

We come in all shapes and colors, and we are everywhere, where you least expect it.

And most of all, don't be afraid ^_^


BEASTIES UNITE!!! ONE DAY WE WILL BE KNOWN!!! HOW SOON IS UP TO YOU!!!

:( hmmm, it hard to think someone would consider death a better option. Even if they dont see it as a loving relationship and instead as someone taking advantage/abusing their animal killing it just further enhances the hypocracy of their actions. It is amazing to me how far people go when condemning something... whether it is killing/harming the animal, human, property.... lives, yet they wont lift a finger to research how and why people would do what they disapprove of.

I am not that open to strangers, so i have not seen any really hostile emotions. The closest I got was a preacher who spoke about sex with anything other then a spouse was a sin. I told him that an even bigger sin is passing it up. I was told I am going to hell for masturbation, then i asked him about the people who rape others. Would he want that or would he rather have them jerk off in the privacy of his own home? He gave me The Hand..yea..did not answer just held his hand up to me and called me a sinner.

i know my sig is violent but honestly im a violent person...im the lead singer of a metal band for christ sakes lol....but i honestly loved my doggy...and not even the thought of performing zoophiliac acts came on me about her she was to beautiful...she was a drug trained shepard black and tan coat and she was small....if i could find out who killed her i would do that though the person beat her the fucking set her on fire....i swear i hate humans

you know that is so true some fuvking person that only like beastiality cause the sex is gonna do something stupid one day and we the harmless ones tht just like it for the companionship will all be persecuted