So you want to make an animal brothel if I read you right? You start ths discussion with a text that gives you hope for just a little understanding. But what do you do to make us understod? Sneek around in fields at nicht, ready to defence your legal right to f*** the animals of others, if necessary with violence?

Look at your voting. Violent fencehoppers and animal brothels is not what it takes to lift laws against us. Most folks here undertand why. In fact, a large number of antibestiality laws were helped in the way by such things.
Before we can have any hope to get "understood", maybe you, and others who share your point of view should try to understand the world outside us first.

There are some kinds of sexuality that can not be practized. Others can, under some circumstances. You dont sneek afound in fields at nicht, or visit animal brothels. If you want a sexual relation you have two options. Either you buy, and care for your own animal, with the responsibility it takes, or you make an add in the personal section.
I dont know the succes rate in the personal section, but you have not helped yours in the way.

Yes I agree, a retreat for us would be a grand idea, but as wirehair said, and I totally agree, buying animals just to round them up for gang bangs is not the answer. That is not what a retreat is about.

HOWEVER, back to the subject, the government along with others (unmentioned) would find a way to shut it down, if need be, they might go as far as, OH MY how awful, it caught on fire!!!! I have seen it happen before. They are ruthless, if it isn't their one minded way of thinking it isn't moral.
I have never thought of myself as a "pervert", I am a "PROvert" I am an expert at it :lol: , but anyway I know I hate living in the preverbial "closet", but I just don't think that society as a whole, will ever accept us, or tolerate us.

~Cntry~

This post has been edited by Curious_Bi on Jul 23 2007, 07:59 AM

That wasnt my idea either, I was thinking on more of the lines that we could have sexual relations with an animal or more and not worry about discrimination.. Not rounding up a bunch of animals for one big orgy. However Im surprised that we only have three people supporting the decision so far :o

I think there is a trouble with semantics here. If you brought your lover to a retreat where you could stay with said companion I think thats what the guys are bantering about. It would be nice to go on vacation to a spot that was accepting of the lifestyle.
If Im wrong guys let me know.
I always felt like a sicko until I found this site. I have known what the texts consider us I also told a shrink about my zoo interests,I was SA and its very hard for me to form anykind of a meaningful bond with a human being but I always felt that connection right away with animals.

No, you got the right idea. Wouldnt it be better though, to live in such a place permanently? Well.. I know I would do it.. If only we had more people supporting the idea I think it would be possible

This post has been edited by ultimatefuck on Jul 23 2007, 02:52 PM

( Mr Sore )

"Let's form a commune" is less appealing than "let's form a brothel". At least the brothel has honesty of purpose.

No skin off our nose if ya'll do whatever you like, and best of luck to you... sincerely. The Mrs and I agree however that flashlights or little else would help someone we caught hopping our fence and offering violence when caught... And that The "accepting community" dream is apt to turn out like so many others since the 60s did no matter how pure the motives.

( Mrs Sore )

We agree entirely with this - just reading the way you view your partners and attitude of violence and disregard for anyone's feelings but your own... why should anyone listen to you? You'll have much better chances of success if you're polite and considerate of how your words will be striking others... Even if you don't feel the contempt your words express, understand why others react as if you do.

There are a lot of comments here on the concept of moving away to a zoo-only establishment.
http://www.beastforum.com/showtopic-106685.html

Moving into a zoo-only community sounds great in theory, as a place we will always be accepted in. The problem is when you examine it as a serious option, and consider all the factors in life, actually going through with something like this is largely impractical and unrealistic.

Many people, even though desperate to seek acceptance of their animal lifestyles, are simply unwilling or unable to give up what they have in their current life. People may already be settled in relationships, or wish to stay close to family and friends. There are a great many people who would rather keep their animal preferences hidden forever than disturb the quality of life they already have.

well he was a lil brash to the officer but i think he still had a good point

Even in forums, at con's, etc,zoos get in conflic with each other. Many of us already have more or less problems with humans in general, and when it comes to it, being zooish is just one thing we have in common. We are more or less different from each other in all other matters.
That is one reason why some set heir hopes too high for being understood in such communities.

I just wish societies viewpoint of us was more in line with the academic viewpoint...that would make a real difference.
I think a situation like a retreat probably wouldn't work out in the long run...too much clashing of personalities...I've seen many zoos who just love each other online find they just don't get along when they meet face to face...as for the laws...they are always changing...I'm pretty sure Washington changed theirs a few years ago...seems to be what I read in one of the threads around here...

I don't think any aspect of a person's mental-sexuality should be considered "abnormal." Yes, it may be uncommmon, or strange to some who do not practice it, but there's never really a choice in the matter. Somebody doesn't just wake up one morning and decide "Hey, I think I'm going to be straight," or "Whoa, I want to have sex with horses!" To me, it's all naturally random sexual urges

I know.. Sometimes I let fantasy land get the best of me and I begin to obsess over it a bit much.. Just the way I am when I feel this strongly about something.. I mean, its my life were talking about.. Not to mention the fact that Im extremely controversial by nature I guess.., and people just end up getting annoyed in the end.
Itzwolf, and I think your right about the whole clashing of personalities thing, I guess I was just blinded by desperation.. Just hope that people understand where Im coming from..

Actually, there isn't anything considered perverted in abnormal psychology because it is too difficult to define. Beastiality is grouped with necrophilia. Just thought i would put my two cents in.

I don't see anything wrong with zoo's wanting a place where that could go to live with or visit with other zoo's. I'm sure that would be a dream come true for them. That's how swing and gay clubs got started. However there is a big difference. In a swing or gay club we're talking about consenting adults.

No matter how zoo's and zoo friendly people may feel, society will never accept bestiality because the animal isn't a consenting adult. In their eyes we're taking unfair advantage of a defenseless animal, and yet I can fully understand their point of view. Also Zoo's claim to be animal lovers, yet other animal lovers and animal rights advocates who would also view zoos in a very unfavorable light. They would most likely look to have your community closed down.

Whew! I am happy to know I am not a pervert!! Just an extremely over active sexual kind of guy!!



The state trooper was not a mounted trooper was he? Maybe he was just waiting for his horse so he could go on patrol and you were holding him up?

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