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> Why Do You Try?, ...to still date non-zoos?
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Posted: Jul 28 2007, 12:46 PM
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The zoo-being is just one thing that is common to us. In most other aspects we are different, and it is by far given that we will like each other just because of that common interest. I have heard of CON's where there were quite some tensions between te members..
The internet has become the way for zoos to meet, before those days, we were pretty alone. The net is still young, a large number here has come to know each other before that.
And there are situations in life where those who have not turned humans their back, meet someone the come to like in all matters - except for the one that this nice person is not into bestiality at all.
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Posted: Jul 28 2007, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE (GreatDana @ Jun 3 2007, 02:17 AM)
Okay, I've seen several basically "oh crap, I got caught with the pup" threads or people biting their nails on revealing their zoo lifestyle to their partners. My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you?

Was it before this site where you could directly seek people out? Do you not want to limit yourself? Did you find out "hey, I'm a zoo afterall" after being with your significant other for some time already/ you were already in love with them?

Oh, and why don't some of you even try once a relationship with a human that can share your passion and love for your lifestyle?

Very good questions... for me, when I date, being a zoo does not ever come up... I could care less if they are and since I don't share my secret w/ anyone, it's not a problem... in fact, I am not really sure if I wanna know that about them... hey, but that's just me...
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Posted: Jul 28 2007, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE (Valaska @ Jul 28 2007, 04:00 AM)
Course I could, I never would limit a relationship on personal beliefes and likes unless they deftly stabbed into my own.. Personally I like a womans company more than an animals, there's just some things a woman can do that an animal couldn't hehe.


When you say "deftly stab into your own (personal beliefs)" that seems to be different from what I meant about the the people living with someone or dating someone all stressed out about their "secret". What I'm pointing out is someone totally altering or stressing out about their life, not just having contention with their partner over personal beliefs like religion or politics.

Personally if I am just dating someone my sexual business is my business, but marriage would be different and then I wouldn't be with someone that would have me keeping a humongous secret and then complain about it or be shocked when shit hits the fan--at least for people that have taken it to the level of being a total lifestyle. It seems like you could probably live with or without the zoo lifestyle for the benefit of your partner?

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Posted: Jul 28 2007, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (dixiedoll @ Jul 28 2007, 08:51 AM)
QUOTE (GreatDana @ Jun 3 2007, 02:17 AM)
Okay, I've seen several basically "oh crap, I got caught with the pup" threads or people biting their nails on revealing their zoo lifestyle to their partners. My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you?

Was it before this site where you could directly seek people out? Do you not want to limit yourself? Did you find out "hey, I'm a zoo afterall" after being with your significant other for some time already/ you were already in love with them?

Oh, and why don't some of you even try once a relationship with a human that can share your passion and love for your lifestyle?

Very good questions... for me, when I date, being a zoo does not ever come up... I could care less if they are and since I don't share my secret w/ anyone, it's not a problem... in fact, I am not really sure if I wanna know that about them... hey, but that's just me...

That's totally my take on it. To be honest, I place my human companionship as a bigger concern for me, so that's the person I will be life partners with and still have whatever level of a loving relationship with my animals, but I wouldn't let the latter trump the former but neither would I allow one or the other to cause me stress if I'm really that serious about either.

Wirehair, I was a little confused by your post but welcomed the input.
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Posted: Jul 28 2007, 07:22 PM
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Can we try and look at this from another perspective?

If a person is without contact with either female humans or an animals on a sharing but not necessarily sexual relationship then surely any relationship with a female human is of value. At the same time consider that possibly the person is physically incapable of partaking of a sexual liaison then it must be better to have a relationship with a human female simply because the physical disabilities can be discussed.

If a person is ONLY attracted to an animal at the expense of a human then there is surely no problem apart from gaining the animal.

On a purely personal level, it would be wonderful to share anything with another human, preferably female, life disappears down the drain extremely quickly as the years catch up with emotions that cannot be expressed.

Therefore, understanding that there is a need to share at least some part of our lives with another human being, male or female it makes no difference, it is a basic need.

No doubt others will contest that idea but that is what a discussion forum is all about!

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Posted: Jul 28 2007, 08:32 PM
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I guess that relationships are complicated. Ideally it would be best to be totally open with your significant other, but sometimes I suppose that you're not too sure about how you feel about it yourself. Presumably people feel ashamed and embarrassed that they find animals sexually attractive, this is apparently totally normal.

Sometimes you just got to work through the guilt etc. for yourself before you're ready to share it with others, which I guess is understandable. I'm fortunate in that I long ago decided to accept myself for myself, and so before I got married, I made sure that my wife understood what she was letting herself in for. Only fair to warn the poor woman. :P

Real life does not always follow the ideal, but you just got to muddle along somehow. I guess that a significant other "catching" you could be pretty bad at the time, but hopefully everything works out in the end.

Also, last I checked, "I like watching women being shagged by dogs" was not the best pickup line. :P
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Posted: Jul 28 2007, 09:14 PM
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It is hard enough in this world to get into a relationship with a man NOT into this... I mean I have been single for a good 6 or so years now(not married or in a very serious relationship) and everything I have tried has turned to crap.. either they werent everything I was looking for or visa versa... the ones I have found that were zoo, beast, or at least accepting of this part of me ... either turned out to be creeps or creepy.. and the few that actually are 'normal' live thousands of miles away, are already in relationships and either want something on the side or cant make up their mind about where they want their life to go ... but for me being zoo isnt my be all end all... if I were to fall in love and my man was sexually adventureous, faithful and loved me totally... I would be a happy woman... I would still have my pets as I cant see my house without at least one dog hanging around... but for me it isnt all about being able to have sex with my pet... Ill have the love and the bond there even if I am in a so called 'normal' relationship... being zoo-sexual isnt imperative nor is it needed... for me it would just be a little extra spice if it were to happen.. :)
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Posted: Jul 28 2007, 09:14 PM
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well I have to say that the reason that I dont have a girlfriend is because I just dont like the ones I have met. They have always been stuck up bitchy or just not attractive to me. Also I just have this bond with large dogs where they seem like people I would like to meet. They are loving fun and dont judge you on anything. I just think about a big old male husky and hugging him and that gets me through my dogless time right now. If I could only find myself a husky I would be so happy.
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Posted: Jul 29 2007, 12:46 AM
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It's hard to find other zoos out there lol. I'm sorry, it just is. Besides on here. You just can't go up and flat out ask. I date, rarely revealing my secret of being a zoo. When I do, if they shun me, it's over, if they say oh, i see, well all to their own i guess. I'll keep them. why? because they atleast don't mind. They're neutral. I'm quite content with a neutral person, but i'd be too too happy if i find one willing to try or that has and likes it.. It's just hard.

I'm always lookin for a female zoo in my area. No guys, sorry, i'm not bi nor gay, just never got curious to try male humans. I'm bi-curious with dogs though. That said... you live in central indy :P hit me up :D
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Posted: Jul 29 2007, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (GreatDana @ Jun 3 2007, 02:17 AM)
Okay, I've seen several basically "oh crap, I got caught with the pup" threads or people biting their nails on revealing their zoo lifestyle to their partners. My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you?

Hi, long time reader and first time poster here. I've wondered about this question myself, to the point where I almost put an ad in this forum's personals (which is a bit like spitting in the sea if you're a straight single man, so I didn't bother!).

I think the greater question is, can you really form a successful relationship based on sex? Okay, so you'd be eliminating potential embarrassment/disaster later on but you're ultimately looking for someone based on a shared interest in a particular sexual activity. Is that a healthy foundation for a long term relationship?

Or am I completely wrong?
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Posted: Jul 29 2007, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE (Cdf123 @ Jul 29 2007, 12:33 PM)
QUOTE (GreatDana @ Jun 3 2007, 02:17 AM)
Okay, I've seen several basically "oh crap, I got caught with the pup" threads or people biting their nails on revealing their zoo lifestyle to their partners. My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you?

Hi, long time reader and first time poster here. I've wondered about this question myself, to the point where I almost put an ad in this forum's personals (which is a bit like spitting in the sea if you're a straight single man, so I didn't bother!).

I think the greater question is, can you really form a successful relationship based on sex? Okay, so you'd be eliminating potential embarrassment/disaster later on but you're ultimately looking for someone based on a shared interest in a particular sexual activity. Is that a healthy foundation for a long term relationship?

Or am I completely wrong?

it all depends on how you go about it... if your only looking for that person that will have sexual relations or will allow you to have sexual relations with animals.. I can see it as being a problem.. but if you go in thinking your making a new friends someone to share this side of you with and it progresses... then I suppose you can build a very solid foundation for a lasting relationship...

I actually have met 4 different men here and in the chatroom that I thought I could possibly have a relationship with... 2 turned out to be out and out assholes(which I can also find out in the 'normal' world... dont need zoo to be a part of it to find an ass.. ) one lived so very far away(this is actually why I will not entertain the idea of a long distance relationship... I would rather be alone than to deal with the loneliness you feel not being able to be near someone you want so very much).. and we sure did try for the longest time but finally realized it couldnt be... neither of us could move nor really wanted to I think... but I honestly believe in my heart if we had lived in the same area .. we would still be together to this day... it is amazing how you can discover how wonderful a person is without ever realizing your looking for it.... I cant really discuss the last one though... as it cant be either.. but in the back of my mind I sure wish we could try and see where it goes... but I guess that is neither here nor there...

I would like to think that you could form a lasting loving relationship and have sex be a main focus at the beginning.. if both parties are open the the idea of a relationship and you find qualities in that person of what you always wanted in a life partner.. but both parties have to be open to the idea or nothing will ever come of it at all... I am actually one of the rare women who honestly believes you have to have a healthy sex life to have a heathly relationship... so discovering that first cant be a bad thing.. if the end product is something you both want...

okay enough rambling for now.... :blush:
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Posted: Jul 29 2007, 09:32 PM
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I found it quite hard to meet zoo friendly female human. I found that the best way, besides actually having sex with an animal, was having sex with a woman while fantasizing that it was really an animal. I find Fantasizing with a woman is better than having sex with ms. palm and her five daughters.
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Posted: Jul 29 2007, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE (wyldfyre67 @ Jul 29 2007, 09:02 PM)

it all depends on how you go about it...  if your only looking for that person that will have sexual relations or will allow you to have sexual relations with animals..  I can see it as being a problem..  but if you go in thinking your making a new friends someone to share this side of you with and it progresses...  then I suppose you can build a very solid foundation for a lasting relationship...


Fair point, well made.

Still, it's hard to convince a new person that you're not just looking for sex when you get talking to them via the internet :lol:

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Posted: Jul 30 2007, 01:00 AM
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You have to be who you are. If others don't accept you, then its not worth your time to be with them. Not saying that it sould be the first words out of your mouth, but when the topic of sec comes up, don't be shy. People will always judge, you just gotta be above that.
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Posted: Jul 30 2007, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE (GreatDana @ Jun 3 2007, 02:17 AM)
Okay, I've seen several basically "oh crap, I got caught with the pup" threads or people biting their nails on revealing their zoo lifestyle to their partners. My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you?

Was it before this site where you could directly seek people out? Do you not want to limit yourself? Did you find out "hey, I'm a zoo afterall" after being with your significant other for some time already/ you were already in love with them?

Oh, and why don't some of you even try once a relationship with a human that can share your passion and love for your lifestyle?

hmmm
hard ?

a long time ago pre internet and b4 i ever heard of BF
i tried tyo hide from what i was.mostly due to it being socialy unacceptabl;e and agianst the belief values i was raised with

so to appear normal and disprove i wasnr homosexual i married ((

shes a fine enough person, but shes not a zoo
she dose like/klove anuimals almost as much as i but would NEVER
take it to the sexual level


i did tell her b4 we wed about this
but i,ve never let her know i,m still as active as i am

and we dont talk about it(

so i apppear normal to all around me

but many dog or horses know better))


p.s as good or as bad as 20 + yrs of marriage has been i wouldnt leave her over/for this.
nor would i want to not have done it as we have a FINE wonderful son (18 now)

and dont think its cause shes hot in bed))))
i,m just comminted to the end))

heck i anit that fantictic in bed either (lol at least with humans))
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