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Do You Resent People Who Don't Understand Us?
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Bekka
Posted on May 6 2007, 06:30 AM
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I answered no. We must all chose our own path to walk in this life, and it is not for me to judge anyone else for the path they have chosen. I can only hope that I have the good fortune to meet those that respect the path I have chosen. I know there are many things that people do that I don't understand, and therefor am forced to accept the fact that there are those out there that don't understand me. So in the end........why resent human nature?

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Posted on May 6 2007, 07:47 AM
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I mean, most of these people probably have no idea what they're talking about and just want their opinion heard, but you can't confront them about their ignorance without "outing" yourself. The sad thing is though, that without someone to show them why they might be wrong, they will never feel differently and they might even go so far as to think WE know we're wrong because we aren't opposing them.

Are we in a lose-lose situation? Stand up and be ridiculed/slandered/harassed or sit down and let the situation only potentially get worse?

I kind of went off on a tangent there, but I guess my answer is that I pretend to side with them, but inside its killing me knowing that I must wear a mask of normality whenever I'm around other people (which, is about 99% of the time). I do resent the fact that I must do that, but I understand that some of these people are generally good, however misguided I think they might be. So to that end, I know I can't lump them all together as it isn't entirely fair, but do they express any fairness towards us?

You sound like you desired more of an answer on this part, so I went back to give it a bit more thought.

It does seem true that it's difficult to confront negative people with anti-zoo attitudes. Again, I'm reminded of the general public talk on the Zoo movie. Neutral people who weren't zoos would say that if zoos aren't doing any harm, then they should be free to pursue their own lifestyle in private. The extremely negative people were quick to make responses that if you aren't against it, you're for it, which shakes the argument a bit, that anyone who expresses a neutral attitude must secretly be a zoo. So in this sense, I can see how it would be like outing yourself to defend zoo rights and opinions, and why some neutral people might feel like holding back on voicing their own opinion.

I can't say if we're necessarily in a lose-lose situation though. Yeah, we will get ridiculed if we stand up for ourselves, and if we hold our tongues, all the negative stories of sadistic and abusive bestiality will continue to wear down whatever foundation of an argument we hope to maintain. However, I feel that our culture is changing just enough to become more lenient to it. From what I've observed, it seems the current generation, or rather my generation, people aged 18-25 or so, tend to hold a neutral opinion. This could be good in our case. Even if they're neutral, that's one less potential voice against us. More neutral people, more people who don't care as long as we're not hurting anything, and our collective average voice will increase as well. I predict that given a few more generations, zoophilia won't be as much of controversial issue. Granted, I doubt we'll ever have rights or any sort of official recognition, but I think in the future there will be a bit more leniency when it comes to the law, and fewer chances of being struck down with false animal cruelty charges.

Anyways, moving on, I also mask who I am when I'm around my friends and family. I think they're figuring out that I'm not exactly normal from my lack of human relationships, but I still just shrug it off or change the subject whenever it comes up, all in an attempt to hide my true feelings. I dislike having to hide myself, and I really wish I could just come out with it. While I don't think anybody I know would actually hate me for knowing who I truly am, I'm sure many of them would think less of me.

I'm not speaking from experience here, but rather from my observations of the attitudes of the people I know in real life, but I think that when people actually know who you are as a person in general, they'll be more likely to come to terms with and at least tolerate the truth. Sure, they'll have some negative attitudes, but unless they're hardcore extremist anti-zoo people, they should at least express some level of decency and fairness about it, or just avoid all conversation on the subject and pretend everything is normal.

I'm rambling here, but I hope that answered any more of your questions.
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Posted on May 6 2007, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE (ZetterGRD @ May 6 2007, 01:47 AM)

I'm rambling here, but I hope that answered any more of your questions.


Indeed you did (answer the questions, not ramble :P), and a couple points I hadn't considered before. I'm a member of the same age bracket and it is generally true that most people of that age group tend to be more more open, or as you put it, neutral minded. It's tough to say how they would react to a discussion on zoophilia as at least in my area the topic rarely, if ever, comes up.

Although, since I've never actually attempted to discuss the topic with anyone, the outcome is complete conjecture on my part. Perhaps I'm not giving the general public enough credit (although perhaps I am)...

I suppose I can't as for much more ss long as we continue to have a safe haven at which we can congregate
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Posted on May 6 2007, 05:37 PM
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no not realy.every one should have there thoughts .i just wish some would keep them to there self. :D
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Posted on May 6 2007, 05:50 PM
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I don't hate those who hate us, it would be hypocritical of me to do so. It does however annoy me a lot. Especially when you get the usual sheep who just say its wrong because thats what most other people think. Or people who say its wrong, but then can't say why they think it is.

I've had discussions with a lot of people in real life and online who just haven't had a real reason why they think sex with animals is wrong. I just got a "Because it is" or a "Because the Bible says so and have just been called a sick freak for even suggesting that it may be ok to have sex with an animal (that was online though, so I just ignored it lol)

Saying that, can you really blame them? Especially when most of the news that hits the mainstream media is that of people who do abuse animals. Most people don't have a clue that anything like BF exists and don't realise that there are people in the world who have sex with animals who love them like a partner, and wouldn't do anything to hard their animals. And so when they see a news item about some twisted guy who killed a horse after having sex with it or whatever, what are they supposed to think?
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Posted on May 6 2007, 06:35 PM
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I feel sorry for those who cannot tolerate others for doing things that do not bring hurt or pain.

Those for whom it is viewed as a form of witch hunt to incriminate others for actions that contravene their own hypocritical lifestyle are as disgusting as those who force others into unnatural acts.

Fortunately there are few who have any knowledge of my lifestyle so the question rarely arises.

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Posted on May 6 2007, 11:01 PM
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Hi all..new girl here. This'll be my first post on these boards.

I do not resent those who do not understand my interest, (although nobody really knows about my interest :unsure: ) particularly because I do not understand many things about this world and the people in it, and I surely hope that the people I don't understand don't resent me...Also, I am pretty sure my interests stem from being inately connected and very compassionate toward all of nature, particularly animals. In fact, in many ways I tend to have much more compassion and empathy for animals than I do for people. I am pretty sure I can reasonably deduce that almost, if not all people who display or otherwise have sexual desires involving animals are among those who share a unique connection and love for animals.

This said, there are a good majority of people who either DO NOT respect and have compassion for animals or just respect them enough to "have" or "own" them as a novelty. People who "dislike" animals often find it hard to understand why certain people are so willing to share their homes and lives with them at all. I do not resent those people, so how could I possibly resent people who do not understand zoophilia?
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Posted on May 7 2007, 12:50 AM
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Well,all I can do is echo whats already been said. As noted,at least we have BF to come to and be a part of. As for those who for whatever reason disagree with us, IMO, it's their loss.
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Posted on May 7 2007, 01:09 AM
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Strange that this tread popped up. I just had to endure a rant by a relative during dinner concerning his distaste for beastly activities. Do I resent him? No, I just smiled to myself knowing that "I know something you don't know". I"ve always believed that instead of hating to just play in your own back yard and let them go play in theirs.
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Posted on May 7 2007, 01:10 AM
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I would have to toss a "no" into the cap.

It is tough enough just being me, I cant worry about the rest of the world.
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Posted on May 7 2007, 01:27 AM
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No, but if they're mean and bitchy about it then yes. Because quite frankly, I understand both sides, and I understand what it's like to not understand. I hope that made sense. It's just like being [attracted to the same sex]. There is so much variety among us; including the difference between narrow minded people and people who view all sides equally. I've already accepted people who don't accept others. Kinda ironic <_<

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Posted on May 7 2007, 01:58 AM
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As for me, I'm willing to give anyone a fair shake, unless they turn into a zealot, or start trying to push their views on me, religious or otherwise. And it doesn't matter if we're talking about zoophilia or broccoli. If someone told me I was an idiot (or I was going to Hell) because I didn't like broccoli, I'd tell them to KMA.
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Posted on May 7 2007, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE (silverwolf768 @ May 5 2007, 07:23 AM)
Its a tough one for me. I try my best not to, but thinking about all the hatred directed towards people like myself (and I only say it like that because nobody knows about me), it makes me sick and depressed.

I mean, most of these people probably have no idea what they're talking about and just want their opinion heard, but you can't confront them about their ignorance without "outing" yourself. The sad thing is though, that without someone to show them why they might be wrong, they will never feel differently and they might even go so far as to think WE know we're wrong because we aren't opposing them.

Are we in a lose-lose situation? Stand up and be ridiculed/slandered/harassed or sit down and let the situation only potentially get worse?

I kind of went off on a tangent there, but I guess my answer is that I pretend to side with them, but inside its killing me knowing that I must wear a mask of normality whenever I'm around other people (which, is about 99% of the time). I do resent the fact that I must do that, but I understand that some of these people are generally good, however misguided I think they might be. So to that end, I know I can't lump them all together as it isn't entirely fair, but do they express any fairness towards us?

Some people should just back off of other peoples lives. I resent the people that put a law up for something that if it were to happen to a girl would just be overlooked. I also resent the fact of how "Some people" crack jokes about it. People need to realise that nobody is better or worse than anyone except for the people that hurt people. Its like this I could be in love with my dog while the person whos talking about what I do could be screwing a little kid. Or be out raping girls when hes drunk and crap. I have friends that are ok with it which most people should unless the animal is getting hurt which in most cases its not that way. Also heres another thing if they feel it is "hurting a animal" what do people do to chickens cows pigs dogs cats goats and all that when they dont have homes or we need food? Its more important for people to feel insignificant about themselves than it is to be happy it seems like with the laws and people now a days. Am I wrong??? :censored: errogant :badwords: holes need to get a life that care SO MUCH. Focus more on your kids than taking the time to fill out a bill to outlaw our lives. They dont think that the people that cant love their animals could go out and do way worse things. The world just gets stupider and stupider every year. All the money they spent on that bill could have been used on better things. am i wrong?
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