just wondering ,there are alot of new people here that have never had sex with an animal and they want to try .we all say how wonderfull it is .myself included .there are how to guides etc. but i wonder when i see people ask how to have sex with an animal if they took the time to get to know the animal and share feelings for the animal or if we set them up to get bit .this post is inresponce to a a female friend of mine who was in love with her horse .she was trying to ,well ,and got kicked in the head .that put her in the hospital for a few weeks .she still loves her horse she is just mor awair of what could happin if an animal gets scared .i had a female dog i was very comfertable with one night i tried a vibrator on her she was fine with that then i made it vibrate inside her her eyes went wide open and she freaked i could have gotin bit till she pulled it out needless to say it was a while till she trusted me again not to ever use it again .they are very strong when they are scared and in a horses case out weigh you very mutch .maby its not my place to offer advice ,i just dont want to see some one jump into it and get hurt thats all take care if any one wants to add to that feel free .if offering my two cents was wrong get rid of this thanks mop.

^_^ Nothing wrong with asking an honest question ^_^

That is what I have tried to do...
Consent is not being afraid..

To enjoy your partner you must know and how to comunicate with your partner..

Rus

This post has been edited by rus80 on Apr 17 2007, 07:35 PM

mopar i start this out by saying -- i <3 you

i think a lot of what you described isl...common sense? Not to demean anyone in anyways. In fact I think it would be good to have more basic animal faqs rather than sex faqs. Im very sorry for your friend but im sure there was a lot of body language precluding the event that could have prevented her getting hurt if she knew how to read it properly. In addition, honestly thats the kind of reaction i would expect (with the vibrator incident) im not sure why you thought she would react differently.

I personally think that most of the people here set themselves up to be bitten. Even though i have a fantasy about having sex with a dog, my descision for what kind of dog i got would not be dependant on what breed has the biggest cock size or is the best lover. I think this is the most frequently asked question on the board on and is the biggest decider on what kind of animal they will aquire. Me, if i were to find a friendly, lovable neutured male then so be it. Sex is the driving force for many people here, they are probably eager and ignore signs that they can't recognize that "this isn't ok" and end up getting hurt.


on the same note, they should be expected to do some kind of research on thier own, we can't be solely responsible for the well being of people and thier activities. They have responsibilities for themselves as well.

I see the posts like your talking about all the time.. and I think we all try and get them to understand that it could be dangerous to them if the animal in question doesnt know them... but you have to remember.. these people that go ahead and do it ... even if we warn and advice against it ... arent seeing the warnings.. they only see or hear what they want.. and they will ignore the rest... If a person gets hurt because they refuse to listen to our advice it is their fault not yours or anyone elses... I mean honestly... how many people run up to a 100 pound + dog and just wrap their arms around them?? you dont... so they should have the common sense to not do it when trying to initiate sex... I have no sympathy for anyone that gets hurt hopping a fence..

+1 on being careful, and for anyone who hasn't had activity, read up first!

If you're making the leap to engage with these animals, then you are in their world and you had better observe their idea of good manners. If not, then you face the self-defense capabilities of the animal, possibly with your proverbial pants down. Plus you can ruin the trust between you.

Both the zoos and the anti-zoos are obsessed with the sex, and that makes them miss the bigger picture, which is the companionship.

Would be better to do companionship first.
How can you have a relationship if you do not know your partner??

R

I agree there tends to be a lack of general animal behavior imparted in a lot of the FAQ and advice given here. I am guilty of it as well. Its not necessarily being malicious, or deceptive but rather is often assumed by those of us who have owned or interacted with animals a long time that those seeking sexual info already have a working knowledge of basic animal behavior. While I also agree that there should be more info available on basic animal behavior the problem is simply space and time. The exhorbitant amount of time and to enumerate every individual bahvior of every species that are typically contacted for sex. Then to properly place individual behavior in every possible context, then then write it all down in long winded FAQ sheets and equally dry and drawn out posts is tiring and impractical, even for the most wordy of us. However it should be noted that there are no end of resources available at other sites on the net concerning basic animal behavior. Perhaps newbies then should brush up on some basic behavior traits as well on the species of their interest.

When I give advice I try to push that you should make an attempt to get to know an animal first, we all should, if not for the sake of humans, than for our pets.

Animals are at the mercy of humans when it comes to compassion, so every little bit helps.

Body language is a must to know before you do anything otherwise how would you see consent, like, more, and ouch or NOT NOW..

The language is different between critters and the critter inviorment..

Lately some one wanted to meet a dalphin. But what happens if it [layfully grabs your flipper and takes you down 500 feet. The dalphin thinks its fun but your relitives want it dead for murdering you.. Whos falt..

Rus

Methinks with all the people getting hurt is due to living in an urban environment.
Urbanites are often removed from nature that they have no idea about it.
Had 2 elderly aunts who wanted to pet the bears in Jasper National Park, they thought they were cute. They did not realize that these animals have their own personality and their own agenda. And cute ain't part of their agenda!

Pa

Mopar,

The way I see it, the human involved is responsible for making themselves aware of their chosen partner's behaviour - by steering them to the best available info on the sexual info they won't likely find elsewhere (usually one of the pinned FAQ threads) we're doing what we can to minimise the risk to the animal.

After all, they can't do their own research and pass it to their 2 legged partner :P

All we can do for the human side is remind them of the need to know their partner before putting themselves at risk. We're all adults here right :huh: - with that comes some degree of individual responsibility :mellow:

The desision to involve an animal in there lives even as a non-sexual pet is one that does come wih responsibility, as a few of you have said, as is giving advice, but we can only remined people that these are living breathing feeling creatures and they have likes, dislikes and moods...the thing is people will either read the animals body language or they wont,

There is not a lot we can do about that except try and give good advice. I think for the most part people are aware that there animal may not be receptive to there advances but there will always be thoughs that have to walk into a wall before they can see it

I dont think our giving or not giving advice will make much differance to these people and i would hate to see what mite happen if they had no advice atall.

So i will still give if i can but maybe i will start putting in a warning or to urge them to consider the animal when they do this, i read in some ones sig awhile back now, think it was on here - Its a shame stupiditys not painfull - well in this case i thinks it may well be

having said that, no matter how carfull you are, some times, life has a way of happening and you get hurt no matter what you do, so I say continue with the advise for thoughs that listen and consider there situations

Rec


(i hope this reads ok, im not being nasty :) )

again you hit it on the nail rus .thanks every one .

Mopar, I think you brought up a very valued question and a good topic. Its tough deciding on how much advice to give and how far to explain things to someone, that never has been intimate with an animal. I always try to let them know, "this is my opinion" or "every experience is different for each person", because it really is.

There are many times when I see a new topic, I will wait a bit before putting my 2cents into it. There are so many people here, with greater experience than my own, that I worry I might say the wrong thing. I haven't been here that long and I know the advice, comments and different topics I've seen, have helped me tremendously. I really appreciate the time and effort so many of the members have put into all the forum's on BF. I do have certain members I always read what they have to say, as I have come to value their thoughts highly. That's not to say I don't respect everyones opinion, just there are some members, that seem to have more knowledge.

I think its important to share the beauty and the gift of our animal relationships with new members, but there is also the need to make sure they understand, that you never know when something can go wrong or get out of control. For those times when situations have gone wrong, new members need to also realize, that its not the animals fault. We are adults here and we need to take responsibility for our actions and deeds, realizing that not being more aware or having taken the time to understand our partner, is where the problem lies in that situation.