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Tabby104
  Posted: Mar 29 2007, 11:15 PM
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Its seems like its okay for zoos to watch women having sex with animals but when a man does the same thing, he is somewhat flamed for it. I wonder why? Is it their preface, double standard, or some sort of internalized prejudice. So what are your thoughts on this?

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Posted: Mar 29 2007, 11:37 PM
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I wouldn't "flame" him for it. I just don't want to watch. I have looked t some of the male/animal photo postings here and they just don't do anything for me. I don't have a problem with it though.
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Posted: Mar 29 2007, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE (Tabby104 @ Mar 29 2007, 06:15 PM)
Its seems like its okay for zoos to watch women having sex with animals but when a man does the same thing, he is somewhat flamed for it.

I don't understand your point? I haven't seen were men are flamed for anything on this forum. :thinking:
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Posted: Mar 29 2007, 11:47 PM
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While i havent seen anyone being flamed for it, the double standard does exist.

Examples:

Women that sleep around, Society thinks of them as "easy" Slut" etc. But if a guy does it, he's cool.

Lesbian's , the straight guy thinks its hot, but make them watch 2 guys and they get disgusted.

I figure it like this, as long as everyone's having a good time its all good to me.

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Tabby104
Posted: Mar 29 2007, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (silkythighs @ Mar 29 2007, 11:38 PM)
QUOTE (Tabby104 @ Mar 29 2007, 06:15 PM)
Its seems like its okay for zoos to watch women having sex with animals but when a man does the same thing, he is somewhat flamed for it.

I don't understand your point? I haven't seen were men are flamed for anything on this forum. :thinking:

Sorry about that. I should put that post differently and/or reword it. I not saying than men are being flamed on this board. I was just trying to say that why do zoos like to watch women having sex with animals over men. I been thinking about this for quite some time.
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Posted: Mar 29 2007, 11:58 PM
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Well
Ok
I am very comfortable with both men and women with both sexes of animals.
I lean toward er aaa for the sex wellll dont look
OK I will become a peeper if you are male with a male GSD.
I said it
well maby not peep but the sites movies are good

all right
can I watch
thats better
politically correct.

And if the dog comes and the guy does not swallow is that sex
no in the news it wasent
But it wasent a dog eather

I am confused

We need to ask Cohort
He knows
Rus
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Posted: Mar 30 2007, 12:11 AM
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Hi Tabby, Well for me I much prefer watching guys having sex with mare,gelding,stallions or k9s then I do with watching women. As for why women are shown more than men,well thats the way it's always been,either with zoo or no-zoo sex. I guess I go along with rus again :lol:
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Posted: Mar 30 2007, 12:11 AM
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Ok I understand you point now. It clearly has to do with consent. I often myself fear for female dogs who might be exposed to unwanted advances from men. With women and male dogs, this is a non issue. How can a woman ever force a male dog to have sex? So sure, I sometimes cringe when a male posts a thread asking how do I :badwords: my female dog. :o
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Posted: Mar 30 2007, 12:23 AM
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well I'm just more interested in women with male dogs.. :P
don't have anything against men with other animals at all. some of the men/mare stuff turns me on too.. i just have a tendency to go towards the women with male animals, cause that's what I want to do. kinda hard for me to do much with a mare or bitch, eh? :rolleyes:
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Posted: Mar 30 2007, 02:28 AM
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i have to say i haven't seen any flaming either. by the way, I WOULD HIGHLY ADVISE AGAINST DOING THAT EVER, lest the moderators rip you a new one and take the ultimate step of kicking your ass out.

anyone who posts pics and videos does so with a great deal of courage (and a tremendous amount of admiration from me for their efforts), and i'm not about to flame that person....i'm going to praise that person and tell him so and give him "10" votes.

if you don't like pics or videos that someone posts, if you can't say something nice it's best to say nothing at all and move on to the next post.

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Posted: Mar 30 2007, 03:06 AM
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QUOTE (silkythighs @ Mar 30 2007, 12:11 AM)
Ok I understand you point now. It clearly has to do with consent. I often myself fear for female dogs who might be exposed to unwanted advances from men. With women and male dogs, this is a non issue. How can a woman ever force a male dog to have sex? So sure, I sometimes cringe when a male posts a thread asking how do I  :badwords:  my female dog.  :o

Oh I see. Well there are some who may take advantage of that. Depending on the question and they way how they put it, it makes me wonder if the person really loves his animals or not. Its not the question, its how it was asked and said. Oh and I never heard of an woman forcing a male dog. It might be possible.

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Posted: Mar 30 2007, 03:13 AM
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Well for me, watching a woman with a dog or horse is just easier on the eyes. I certainly don't begrudge men anything and I wish ALL zoos who respect and care for their partner all the best and many, many nights of fantastic sex.

I understand silkythighs comment regarding consent as well. It's obvious with male dogs and women that consent is given. Much less so with men and female animals (though mares are pretty good at spelling out their consent for ya ;) I think that point alone may answer your question. I might get in trouble here, but I think some people seeing a man with an animal might think "perv". Those same people seeing a woman with an animal might think "kinky". So from that perspective as far as it being "ok" to see woman with animals it might be just that simple....a matter of perceived consent.
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Posted: Mar 30 2007, 09:09 AM
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:thinking:
The consent issue may be part of why people might look down on it, but even if in the video it is clear the animal is consenting, people like to see a male animal and women for two bigger reasons.....

1. Intensity. People like to see the animalistic, hardcore, intense humping of the animal with a women... the sex is so intense and energetic it is a big turn on. A man with a female animal doesn't have that, the sex in some respects isn't even as good as "normal" man/woman sex because the dog/mare/etc usually just lies there and enjoys it, no moaning, rarely humping/winking, and no clit/body rubbing (by the female). Men also don't have knots or horse size members that flare.

2. Cum. A human can only ejaculate so much :P A dog's is a bit more liquid-like so usually spurts out all over which is a turn on (almost like the intensity is being released all over), not to mention they usually ejaculate more... it may take longer, but that is another turn on. A horse's cum may be similar in thickness but they ejaculate tons more, and of course have a huge member to shoot it from. Again, the man/female animal doesn't have this, and most times the guy pulls out to cum because if he does while inside you wont even see but a drip.

Dont get me wrong, I enjoy male/female animal vids, especially the few "sloppy seconds" videos out there, but woman/male animal vids many times are more of a turn on... however, I would rather watch man/mare or a horse mating vid then a woman/stallion since many of the woman/stallion vids I have seen have fake cumshots, no humping, low quality, and/or excessive moaning.
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Posted: Mar 30 2007, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE (rus80 @ Mar 29 2007, 11:58 PM)
We need to ask Cohort

Okay, since Rus asked, I'm going to try to answer this one. ;)

I presume you mean in general society and not on the forum? I'm not aware of any flaming in this regard on the forum. ...or at least the mods do a great job of cleaning it up if there is.

Okay, so my answer has to do with public reaction. That it's fun/naughty to go to mexico (US example) to watch a "donkey show", but that a guy caught in the act is a threat to society. I think there is a strong double standard, and it goes something like this...

When women are involved with an animal, people can accept that her role was more passive and that it was unlikely the animal was forced. I realize this isn't necessarily true, but I believe that is what most people are most likely to think.

When men are involved with an animal, people view that as an aggressive or predatory act, and that it is unlikely (or at least totally unclear) that the animal was a willing participant in the act. Again, not necessarily true, but more people are most likely to believe it is true.

This is also why when men are caught at bestiality, it is often implied that they are a threat to children. There's no connection, except the one that exists in the minds of many - that this is someone who forced himself on a helpless creature. And if he'd do it to one helpless creature, why not another?

....but it all stems from (I believe) the inherent belief that a woman's role is passive (she is acted upon) and a man's role is active, if not outright aggressive. This is also why women are far FAR less likely to be accused or convicted of "rape".

I'm not saying these are my beliefs, but definitely understand why people would feel this way. Regardless, I think they are the prevailing beliefs - and so that is my answer!! :)

Edit - Looking back, this seems to be what silky said, as well. :beer:

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Posted: Mar 30 2007, 12:04 PM
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Well, I salute all those hard-working cocks over in the Male Home-Made section. And for now at least, any original material that I can post would belong there.



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